Is Fasting applicable for us ?
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Highlight above is from me.
How about the ?VICE & VIRTUE? principles within our faith?
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Lo! Allah enjoineth justice and kindness, and giving to kinsfolk, and forbiddeth lewdness and abomination and wickedness. He exhorteth you in order that ye may take heed.
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O my dear son! Establish worship and enjoin kindness and forbid iniquity, and persevere whatever may befall thee. Lo! That is of the steadfast heart of things.
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And there may spring from you a nation who invite to goodness, and enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency. Such are they who are successful.
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Ye are the best community that hath been raised up for mankind. Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah. And if the People of the Scripture had believed it had been better for them. Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-livers.
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They believe in Allah and the Last Day, and enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency, and vie one with another in good works. These are of the righteous.
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They restrained not one another from the wickedness they did. Verily evil was that they used to do!
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Those who follow the messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them. He will enjoin on them that which is right and forbid them that which is wrong. He will make lawful for them all good things and prohibit for them only the foul; and he will relieve them of their burden and the fetters that they used to wear. Then those who believe in him, and honour him, and help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him they are the successful.
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And the believers, men and women, are protecting friends one of another; they enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, and they establish worship and they pay the poor-due, and they obey Allah and His messenger. As for these, Allah will have mercy on them. Lo! Allah is Mighty, Wise.
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(Triumphant) are those who turn repentant (to Allah), those who serve (Him), those who praise (Him), those who fast, those who bow down, those who fall prostrate (in worship), those who enjoin the right and who forbid the wrong and those who keep the limits (ordained) of Allah - And give glad tidings to believers!
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Those who, if We give them power in the land, establish worship and pay the poor-due and enjoin kindness and forbid iniquity. And Allah's is the sequel of events.
Peace,
KhalilSalam khalil,
You misinterpreted what I said. Let me clarify again and see if you agree.
What I said is, its not my fault that people chose to commit shirk despite the clear message. It isnt my fault that the Qur'an is clear but they abrogate many verses to make way for their hadiths. So, I wont be questioned about them. I never meant that I would stay totally silent about it, that would be evil. I can not support the Concealing of the clear and detailed Ayaats of Allah, thus the inviting people to read the scripture, online blogs,discussions,websites,youtube channels,articles etc. So, what I meant is, Allah wont throw me in the fire because of someone elses inclination towards satanic teachings, I believe that "The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."
If what I meant was that I will keep it all to myself and support the satanic pied pipers, this website would not have "Student of Allah" as a member . )
PEACE
------------------------------- Student of Allah
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Salam Dawn,
Another thing that baffles me is the line that says; those of you who witness Ramadan. It always makes me ask who of us might not witness Ramadan? Why might some of us not witness Ramadan? I think this question contains a lot if we can answer it.
Because the month of aspiration (Ramadhan) is anchored to a specific period - winter, and revolves around a specific night. Thus, if you are in the southern hemesphere, you cannot witness the month; similarly, if you are on another planet (hypothetically) or a space station, you cannot witness it.
This verse lends more evidence to the fixing of Ramadhan rather than the sunni/shia floating ramadhan which simply counts the 9th lunar months - making all people on earth and even in space (around earth) able to witness the month.
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Salam Student
Although on the face of it, the verse seems to suggest what you are inferring, logically it?s not correct. If the verse addresses ?you and me? then logically ?all believers before you and I? should be included in the ?those before you?.
The logic of verses sometimes cannot be understood unless you pay attention. There is an excellent article on the Quranic logic here http//www.free-minds.org/quran-self-reference.
I will list out few verses below which will show how the Quran sustains the logic in a verse without confusing one part of the verses with the other. i.e. How the Quran clearly identifies two sets of corresponding groups without mixing and overlapping one set with the other and also keeping the meaning of the verse intact.
221 O Mankind ! Adore your Guardian-Lord, who created you and those who came before you, that ye may have the chance to learn righteousness;
(Also, you will notice below if the verse 2183 wanted to bring out the meaning you inferred, it could have, addressed and identified the two group in a manner similar to the following verses.)
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You shall certainly be tried and tested in your wealth and properties and in your personal selves, and you shall certainly hear much that will grieve you from those who received the Scripture before you and from those who ascribe partners to Allah, but if you persevere patiently, and become Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V.22) then verily, that will be a determining factor in all affairs, and that is from the great matters, .55
This day good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers1094
And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.2 4
who believe in the Book We have sent down to you (i.e. the Qur'an) and in the Books sent down before you, and firmly believe in the Hereafter.In the Quran, it can be understood that commands such as salat , zakat, charity and many others is applicable to everyone, also much righteous good work and abstaining from many evil deeds. At the same time there are commands and instructions for specific groups (sets of people) as well. While we can draw lessons and guidance from the whole of the Quran, we must keep in mind for whom certain verses are addressed to and under what circumstances.
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Peace
I missed an important part of the verse 2187 (highlighted below), which indicates just how specific this verse is and that the verse is a direct address to the group of people living at that time.
2187......................Allah knoweth what ye used to do secretly among yourselves; but He turned to you and forgave you; so now associate with them, and seek what Allah Hath ordained for you, and eat and drink, until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread; then complete your fast Till the night appears;...................................
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Peace All,
Another thing that baffles me is the line that says; those of you who witness Ramadan. It always makes me ask who of us might not witness Ramadan? Why might some of us not witness Ramadan? I think this question contains a lot if we can answer it.
PeaceSalaam
How does one witness a month? When you experience the day breaking and ending for around thirty/29 days. So those who live in the s/northern hemisphere do not witness some months, as the sun never sets or rises and so there is no distinct separation at dawn or towards night. This is a basic requirement for starting and ending fast and as one commentator said ? a common principle that any who suffers from impractibility, the relevant provision of law does not apply to him?
Best regards
farida
