What's your point exactly about hadith ?
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This site is making confusion on the head of my people, when someone come to me and ask me Salah I no longer pray; I say why ? Because all hadiths are false. This is fitna.
Rather than "all hadith are false", try "no hadith has authority". Anyway, many people who do not accept hadith still pray, and they pray pretty much like you. Read the following link if you're interested
http//apostateofhadith.blogspot.com/2011/08/war-on-salat-part-ii.html
"So how do I know how to pray? I watched and learned from other Muslims; the same way Muslims before (and after) me have learned since Abraham. Go to your mosque and look for a child amongst the prayer lines. Do you see what he's doing? he's learning."
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Imagine that you come to the day of resurection and you are not blessed by Allah because you have leaved the Sunnah ...
And imagine, on a Heavy Day, when the Messenger would complain before his Lord
-----"And the Messenger will say ?O my Lord, indeed my people had deserted this Quran." (2530)
And they had taken the alleged Sunnah.
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Following the Quran is following the sunnah.
Sunnah and Hadith are two different things.A hadith is a narration about the life of the Prophet (pbuh) or what he approved - as opposed to his life itself, which is the Sunnah.
He lived his life (sunnah) according to the Quran.
How can a dead man make a judgement in my matters? The Prophet(pbuh) in his wisdom and mercy judged EACH person and situation differently. How can we apply this as a generic form of judgement? It makes sense to me to tell the people who were currently following him to obey and do as told, he was with them, had fully understanding and used the Qur'an in matters of judgement as ordered by Allah. So the rules are in the Quran with I know 100% has been protected by Allah and his promise, and He never breaks his promise.
"...If any do fail to judge by what Allah(God) has sent down (i.e the Quran), they are unbelievers." (Quran 545).
"...If any do fail to judge by that which Allah has sent down, they are tyrants." (Quran 545)
"...If any do fail to judge by that which Allah has sent down, such are evil-livers." (Quran 547)To obey the messenger is to obey the message. Obeying religious matters versus obey OPINIONS of a human being are very different. Also everytime someone tells a story no matter how good the memory or the truthfulness, that person still filters what they hear through their own experience and beliefs. Does not make them a liar or anything, just slowly adds distortion.
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And they had taken the alleged Sunnah.
So now you are adding your own words to the Quran ?
Allah says in the quran "And the Day the wrongdoer will bite on his hands he will say, "Oh, I wish I had taken with the Messenger a way." 2527
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Salam and Peace!
So now you are adding your own words to the Quran ?
Allah says in the quran "And the Day the wrongdoer will bite on his hands he will say, "Oh, I wish I had taken with the Messenger a way." 2527
I have added nothing to the Exalted Verse.
That is my understanding.
What is yours???And what is that Sabilah along with the Messenger?
Alleged "Sunnatur Rasool"???--------You don't find these words or terminology in Allah's Quran, yet calling people to it.Sabilah along with the Messenger is Al-Quran alone.
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For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.
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Salam and Peace!
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.
Indeed, it is very much so!
"I do not worship that which you worship.
Nor are you worshippers of that which I worship.
Nor am I a worshipper of that which you worship.
Nor are you worshippers of that which I worship.For you is your Deen (Way of life), and for me is my Deen (Way of life)." (109 2-6)
Remember, and never forget, even if you try to forget!
For us, there is no one after Allah.-----So, for us, there is no book after Al-Quran.
Allah is enough for us. So, Allah's Quran is enough for us.This is our firm Iman. Alhamdolillah!-----Take care of your Iman!
Show us the words "Sunnatur Rasool" in Allah's Quran
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And imagine, on a Heavy Day, when the Messenger would complain before his Lord
-----"And the Messenger will say ?O my Lord, indeed my people had deserted this Quran." (2530)
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So now you are adding your own words to the Quran ?
Allah says in the quran "And the Day the wrongdoer will bite on his hands he will say, "Oh, I wish I had taken with the Messenger a way." 2527
Highlight is from me.
How about the three verse right after that, verses 2528,29, and 30?
O woe is me! would that I had not taken such a one for a friend !
Certainly he led me astray from the reminder after it had come to me; and the Shaitan fails to aid man.
And the Messenger cried out O my Lord! surely my people have treated this Quran as a forsaken thing.
Peace,
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Tell this to your friend who posted a message before me ...
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Salam,
Looks like someone totally ignored my question. You see, let me break it our for you. I read the Qur'an and it is protected by Allah. Now you came up with some extra teachings outside of Qur'an. It is your job to submit your evidence. Ofcourse, if you are truthful. Can you show me a verse in the Qur'an that authorised the prophet to give extra teachings outside Qur'an ? As for me, there is a reason that I do not follow other books when Allah has revealed a fully detailed book. Why do you want me to conclude that the prophet was a kaafir, a faasik and zaalim ??? We already know from the Qur'an that all the messengers followed the kitaab given to them, not their desire or public opinion. Lets not hide the clear Ayaats of Allah, let me show you what ALLAH says about prophet judging between us and solving disputes
544 We have sent down the Torah, in it is a guidance and a light; the prophets who have submitted judged with it for those who are Jewish, and the Devotees, and the Priests, for what they were entrusted of the Book of God, and they were witness over. So do not be concerned with the people but be concerned with Me; and do not purchase with My revelations a cheap price. And whoever does not judge with what God has sent down, then these are the rejecters.
545 And We have decreed for them in it that a life for a life, and an eye for an eye, and a nose for a nose, and an ear for an ear, and a tooth for a tooth, and wounds to be similar; and whoever remits anything of it, then it will cancel sins for him. And whoever does not judge with what God has sent down, then these are the wicked.
546 And We sent in their footsteps Jesus, son of Mary, authenticating what was present with him of the Torah. And We gave him the Gospel, in it is a guidance and a light, and authenticating what was present with him of the Torah, and a guidance and a lesson for the righteous.
547 And let the people of the Gospel judge with what God has sent down in it. And whoever does not judge with what God has sent down, then these are the wicked.
548 And We have sent down to you the Book with the truth, authenticating what is between your hands of the Book and superseding it. So judge between them by what God has sent down, and do not follow their desires from what has come to you of the truth. For each of you We have made laws, and a structure; and if God had willed, He would have made you all one nation, but He tests you with what He has given you; so strive to do good. To God you will return all of you, and He will inform you regarding that in which you dispute.
549 And judge between them by what God has sent down, and do not follow their desires, and beware lest they divert you away from some of what God has sent down to you. If they turn away, then know that God wants to inflict them with some of their sins; and many of the people are wicked.
550 Is it the judgment of the days of ignorance that they seek? Who is better than God as a judge for a people who comprehend?
So, from the above, it is clear that these messengers were given Kitaabs, they were ordered to judge between us using the Kitaab not anyother Furqaan, the revelation of Allah only. Allah specifically mentions that the ones who do not judge with what He sent down (ikitaabs) are Kaafirs, Fasiks and Zaalims.
So you see my friend, what you are asking me to do is accept that these messengers of God actually used external religious teachings to judge, which makes them (atleast Muhammad) a kafir who is also a fasik and zalim. And you come here and ask us the question "Do we really love Muhammad ?"
May be we arent fantasizing a sizling hot tub scene with the messengers, but we arent disrespecting them and calling them Kafirs/Fasiks/Zalims.
I bare witness that the messenger of Allah did his job. My respect and salute for the messengers peace
If you can not prove from the Qur'an that the messengers are authorized to give extra teachings outside Qur'an , then there is no point in wasting our time. Pray to Allah that he guides me to Paradise. I pray to Allah that He increase you in knowledge and protects you from falsehood and Satan.
PEACE
--------------------- Student of Allah
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Greetings and Peace, all group
4125 And who is better in the system than the one who submits himself to GOD, and he is a good doer, and he follows the creed of Abraham in monotheism? And GOD took Abraham as a friend.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi