My PERSONAL conclusions about salaat (contact prayer)
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Peace @hawkninetynine,
thank you for your reply and compliments.
I agree plainly with you and I also think it is no concidence.
I follow your posts elsewhere, too.Praise be to God alone!
peace
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Principle of Friday Prayer (Jumma)
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8_KIh7CEMc
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkjIsdpXgU0&feature=relmfu
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JIA8w2gsI8&feature=relmfu
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Dear GODsubmitter,
Thank you for sharing your views with the forum.
I was greatly relieved to read that you re-analysed your position on Safar's work.
A great deal of Safar's work is, sadly, sheer conjecture; either that, or he is misinformed.
If the prior, I pray he desists; if the latter, no blame is on him.
Knowledge is power, educate yourself and you will be guarded to a considerable extent against such vulgar propaganda.
"God increases with guidance the ones who seek guidance."
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Dear @uq,
thank you for your post!
Yes dear friend, I did re-analysed my position on Safar's work... and returned to being fully convinced that Dr. Rashad Khalifa PhD is the messenger of the covenant.
We all might have doubts now and then, and we are all searching the Straight Path, are we not?
GOD points out the paths, including the wrong ones. If He willed, He could have guided all of you.
At one point I almost even stopped believing in the Qur'an and joined some discussions on this Forum, only to discover that they proved to be somewhat unfruitful...
So, I suppose one can find a few contradictory posts made by me (and others) in this Forum, as we ponder and examine our research and progress.
I pray God guide us all! group
All the best to you.
Best regards
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An excellent computer desktop software for Salat times, very programmable with the possibilities to play personally pre-recorded Athans etc.
You can download it from here
http//www.salaattime.com/salaat-time/Enjoy!
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It is very important not to add or omit anything during the Contact prayer (Salat) because it is strictly structured and mathematically proven what so say and how many times.
Important
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjOxG-cDrGw&feature=relmfuIt is also the combination of sounds and the mystical vibration that emanates from those words that is important!
Learn all about the Contact Prayers (Salat) here
http//www.masjidtucson.org/submission/practices/salat/Shabat shalom!
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Peace to all
Before jumping to conclusions, please read the following verses
O ye who believe! seek help with patient perseverance and prayer; for Allah is with those who patiently persevere. 2153
we should seek HELP in Prayers as did Zakariya
While he was standing in prayer in the chamber, the angels called unto him "Allah doth give thee glad tidings of Yahya, witnessing the truth of a Word from Allah, and (be besides) noble, chaste, and a prophet,- of the (goodly) company of the righteous." 339
He said "O my Lord! How shall I have son, seeing I am very old, and my wife is barren?" "Thus," was the answer, "Doth Allah accomplish what He willeth." 340
He said "O my Lord! Give me a Sign!" "Thy Sign," was the answer, "Shall be that thou shalt speak to no man for three days but with signals. Then celebrate the praises of thy Lord again and again, and glorify Him in the evening and in the morning." 341
Read the highlighted words HE SAID
Zakariya was SAYING to his LORD
He was not RECITING from the Books but saying to the God.
Now read this
O ye who believe! Approach not prayers with a mind befogged, until ye can understand all that ye say,- nor in a state of ceremonial impurity (Except when travelling on the road), until after washing your whole body. If ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands. For Allah doth blot out sins and forgive again and again. 443
ZAKARIYA sought HELP in his prayers, and SAID to God
So the prayer has TWO main aspects, besides glorifying HIM
SEEKING HELP
SAYING to ALLAH.
(the Shahadah in prayer is literally said to mankind and not to Allah)
WHAT WE DO IS RECITE TO GOD FROM HIS OWN QURAN REVEALED FOR MANKIND AS A GUIDANCE ,WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING. (It is totally nonsense)
Thanks
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Thank you estimated @hafeez kazi for your post and addition.
I say estimated because I greatly appreciated your posts elsewhere, and I am honoured that you wrote on my thread too.I agree fully with you, although I would like to stress the difference between the prayer dua (or davening), a simple prayer done anytime to speak with Almighty God, from the Salat or the Contact Prayer with prescribed positions and words (strictly and always from the Qur'an only) in order to establish the five daily contacts with Allah.
?No prayer?s complete without a present mind.?
Glory be to God alone
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He said "pray constantly" and "forgive and you will be forgiven" and "be merciful and love a lot".
All the teachings of Jesus are beautiful and important.
He was not only one of the greatest prophets, but he was the Messiah, too.
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The angels said, "O Mary, GOD gives you good news a Word from Him whose name is 'The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary.' He will be prominent in this life and in the Hereafter, and one of those closest to Me.
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O you who believe, you shall bow, prostrate, worship your Lord, and work righteousness, that you may succeed.
It is so important to be humble, the spiritual arrogance and pride being one of the most dangerous human traits and errors...
What false a notion that human biped has of himself to be arrogant, that curious two-legged creature, to be so proud of his knowledge or intellectual stipulations?
"God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble." (Letter of James)Each day I realize more and more how important it is to prostrate and pray God during the five daily Contact Prayers.
Those at your Lord are never too proud to worship Him; they glorify Him and fall prostrate before Him.
I implore God to guide me and grant me knowledge.
These are some of the prophets whom GOD blessed. They were chosen from among the descendants of Adam, and the descendants of those whom we carried with Noah, and the descendants of Abraham and Israel, and from among those whom we guided and selected. When the revelations of the Most Gracious are recited to them, they fall prostrate, weeping.
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Further proofs for the Contact prayers (salat), the number of units, bissmilah etc etc...
Dr Rashad Khalifa, PhD Friday (hutba) sermon
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbj_77-2t28&feature=plcp
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Very good short article confirming, yet again, that there are 5 contact prayers.
I like the ending of the article which reads"...to emphasize that these are only reminders, and the Salat cannot be taught or forced upon people, but it is inspired to people by God as it is stated by God in 2173."
http//journal_of_submission.homestead.com/Ultimate_Mathematics_and__Contact_Prayers.pdf
source
http//journal_of_submission.homestead.com/index.html
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http//www.chayas.com/proster.jpg
Bowing, kneeling, yoshev la'areS, qidah & prostration originated in authentic Torah Teachings (the Torah of Moses). It certainly preceded Islam and Christianity. It is still practiced (to some extent) today and is/was retained by a minority of Jews, even during the Middle Ages. And while portions of this original practice may (or may not have) been copied by other religions, anyone familiar with ancient practice knows we still preserve the original method of prostration. In my opinion, a popular return to proper Jewish prostration or qidah, (which brings about focused, meaningful prayer) will result in a greater level of shifa for the Jewish people (and the world). This translates into a greater level of Divine protection (based on concepts in 'The Guide' / Moreh Nevukhim).
Some MidRaShYm (based on Samuel 12 say that the Temple will only be rebuilt in the merit of prostration.
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It is very interesting the similarity with the salat contact-prayer.
But astonishing distingtion
"Notice that the head (nose) is touching the carpet. Hands are extended, palms flat on the ground. Head is covered by Talith. UNLIKE MUSLIMS, the rear end is pushed as close to the ground as one is able to do (according to one Teshubah of RAMBAM)!!! This also separates us from Muslim practice, which probably took this concept of high-hanging rear ends from ancient-idol worship - which utilized it. Also, you should try to get your thighs as parallel to the ground as is possible. -- RMb"M says "al birkayyim, Qida" which means 'on the knees' (Hlk Tefillah 514). This is our interpretation of the punctuation in this verse. This accords with the ancient version described by our TaNaKh, which clearly calls for sitting on the knees. In our assessment, this also accords with historical testimony out of Yemen. This is what we call the SITTING position referred to as yoshEYv la'araS."
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Salaam bro you change your pic and never recognize again eheh sorry peace handshake
interesting post and alweyes tought more of prostration like this than with head in ground but in other hand its almost fetus position when you put head on ground and if you do it in middle of nature is way to conect to earth, butt anyway..alweyes thought were in Quran says how this prostration is made, if is a book for mankind..how is not Salawat ritual discribed? i think imop no ritual to be done..
Salawat acording to Ahlal ahdith journal of 1997 that i can find for you, says majority of ulema get in concensous the mean of Sallawat being divine comandements, aqimo aslawat is to establish divine comandments/laws. and rukuu,sujud can have meanings of aproach and finally surender.anyway still searching .. if theres any corporal ritual included in salawat..Quran is constantly called the messagedhikr .. and theres an ayat wich says. those who meditate/ponder on signs laying,sitting or standing.. so Salawat and in fact al surat albakara is where we have many paths you choose to make the words and all as ritual or we start to see the hided meanings of this arabicised rituals..and misconception in translation ..so everybody now strugling to interpret the words of Allah.
sorry for any mistakekeep going knowledge is never enought... sun
SALAAM/SHALOM/PEACE/PAIX/PAZ
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Peace GODsubmitter,
Sorry for intruding on your thread. I am not going to discuss your topic, just say "God bless you for the work you put into this", and just ramble about my own personal jihad.
I still need convincing proof to satisfy my heart regarding 3 or 5 daily prayers and the amount of rakah. Currently I do 5 rakah and the traditional amount of rakah (2 4 4 3 4 which number sequence is divisible by 19).
I also have this odd personal sign in my life, old zipcode that was 64695 (3405*19) and old house number 34B (B (beh) means pray in Swedish).
Despite this I have problems disregarding some arguments calling for 3 daily prayers and 2 rakah only per prayer. It seems these arguments have some basis too.
Sorry for posting here against your wish.
God bless you.
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Peace GODsubmitter,
Sorry for intruding on your thread. I am not going to discuss your topic, just say "God bless you for the work you put into this", and just ramble about my own personal jihad.
I still need convincing proof to satisfy my heart regarding 3 or 5 daily prayers and the amount of rakah. Currently I do 5 rakah and the traditional amount of rakah (2 4 4 3 4 which number sequence is divisible by 19).
I also have this odd personal sign in my life, old zipcode that was 64695 (3405*19) and old house number 34B (B (beh) means pray in Swedish).
Despite this I have problems disregarding some arguments calling for 3 daily prayers and 2 rakah only per prayer. It seems these arguments have some basis too.
Sorry for posting here against your wish.
God bless you.
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Thank you brother @Man of Faith for posting, I am very glad that you wrote your words and I am grateful for your appreciation and support.I think, we all need to ponder and examine everything to the best of our abilities, and then implore God, blessed is He, to guide us, and illuminate us with His Wisdom and Light. I often pray to God to erase unuseful and noxious knowledge from my mind, and give me only the useful information and the real, fruitful knowledge for the nourishment of my spirit and soul.
I used to waver, like you, for almost a year, about the arguments for 3 or 5 daily prayers. I think I've read almost everything on that subject I could find on the Internet. I even used to abandon the practice of contact prayers altogether, thinking that the salat was merely a "mental link" as suggested by A. Safar and others...
But then, when I continued to practice them strictly, I became convinced by my own concrete results and the changes it produced in my life, that the 5 daily prayers, performed as taught by late Dr. Rashad Khalifa PhD, are, not only beneficial to overall state of life, spirituality and discipline, but they must be true, due to overwhelming tradition and heritage which can't be a mere coincidence. Further confirmation is its numerical structure as well. Please allow me to stress the importance of performing the contact prayers only the way they are taught by Dr. Khalifa, with the right Shahada and correct wudu, and reciting the Fatiha in Arabic.
http//www.masjidtucson.org/submission/practices/salat/
(And in this thread of mine you can also read the many phases I went through)Concerning the number 19 you mention, I wouldn't go so far as finding or seeing it everywhere, because I think a danger of falling into superstition and "magic" is always so near, and handy, the same as idolizing the messenger, or finding other "crutches"...
This doesn't mean that the mathematical miracle of the Qur'an, and its inner structure based on number 19, is not perfectly evident, proved and documented, as we all know that it is.For me it is always a pleasure to exchange good thoughts with noble fellow brothers who try to submit to the Almighty God as much as possible, as we all wish.
Praise and glory be to God always, blessed is He in eternity!
God bless you!
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