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Kyle,
Peace be upon you Zenje,
Yes, I agree with Yahud = guided, at this time.
I think "the guided ones" implies people whose hearts are wrapped, they have a philosophy that they blindly stick to. I do not see "the guided" as a group of people who belong to the jewish religion.
I came across this verse the other day, and wondered what you thought of it, and how it would fit with the definitions.
- Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Nazarene, but he was a monotheist who surrendered; he was not of those who set up partners.
- Ma kana ibraheemu yahoodiyyan wala nasraniyyan walakin kana haneefan musliman wama kana mina almushrikeena
Peace! )
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Peace be upon you Zenje,
I am not sure yet what to think, but that verse you gave loks like an excellent place to use as a barometer.
I am confortable right now with my understanding of yahood being "guided" in the sense that they think they are already guided and have locked thier hearts. I can understand Abraham not being described in that manner, but I cannot reason how Abraham could not be a helper.
Perhaps by helper, it is meant one who helps the yahood, or one who helps those who think they are guided.
I am just thinking out loud.
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Salam,
if someone wants to understand al-nasary as "the helpers" then he/she must explain 930
the helpers said The Messiah is God's son???
doesn't sound logical, does it? We know already that the christians say it, but to generalize and say that those who help others say it, seems streched
Best regards,
sabo -
Peace be upon you Sabo,
I can understadn your doubts about that, but we have to remember the context of the "helper". It is not stated WHO the "helpers" are helping.
In my brainstorming, I suggest that they might be helpers of those who consider themselves guided, its like the blind(yahood) leading the blind(nasara). The God says those closest to the submitters are those who call themselves "nasara". I would say that is because they are at least WILLING to be shown some evidence, UNLIKE the yahood who are stubborn to new understanding.
Please think on this Sabo and let me know if it is at least a possibility at this time.