How packed will hell be in comparison to the those in heaven?
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Peace,
Very interesting question you raise! Ultimately it's up to God to judge...
One thing that gets me There is infinite meaning to any action. We tend to focus on only one meaning of an action but indeed any action has so many effects on the immediate area and the rest of the universe as a result that a good deed can have many possible effects yet an evil deed can only have one immediate effect. Why? Because the nature of the system of life is that it always pushes to wipe out evil as rapidly as possible. But as rapidly as possible means exactly that exactly as rapidly AS POSSIBLE. Due to this, the system must always go forth at the speed of the weakest link. And the weakest link is the one to go to Hellfire
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Therefore I warn you of the fire that flames
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None shall enter it but the most unhappy,
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Who gives the lie (to the truth) and turns (his) back.Peace
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Salam,
God only accepts good deeds that conform to His commandments and only accepts them from the Righteous. Disbelievers do not get any credit on Judgement Day for their works in life. They are all nullified at God because they were not done for Him alone, while believing.
The vast majority of all humans who come here will not make it into heaven according to what is said in Quran. Even most of those who do believe do not do so without committing Idol worship, which is unforgivable to die as one and nullifies everything done in life. Dying as a disbeliever God says will not be forgiven as well.
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Salam,
God only accepts good deeds that conform to His commandments and only accepts them from the Righteous. Disbelievers do not get any credit on Judgement Day for their works in life. They are all nullified at God because they were not done for Him alone, while believing.
The vast majority of all humans who come here will not make it into heaven according to what is said in Quran. Even most of those who do believe do not do so without committing Idol worship, which is unforgivable to die as one and nullifies everything done in life. Dying as a disbeliever God says will not be forgiven as well.
Well I understand the vast majority considering we are talking about since the start of the human race with the vast amount of evil and idol worshipers that existed. We have gotten better since then I would say as a race.
But in terms of idol worship, I wouldn't think it would involve us submitters or relatively any of the Abrahamics other than maybe Trinitarian Christians considering we believe nothing is like Allah and he stands above all. On the other hand we got pretty much everything that isn't Abrahamic which believes has some form of an idol like the Hindus, who while they do believe in The God, also believe in Vishnu and Shiva and make statues that they prostate to.
Though as the Quran also stated that God won't judge people beyond their capabilities so many of these Hindus and Christians and others who have heard the call of Islam likely wouldn't get judged like us. Quite frankly don't forget that Islam does state that anyone who believes in God and the Final Day and does rightous deeds shall enter heaven, thus even if those ones have done idol worship, God don't judge something they didn't know as they simply followed their religion there.
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Salam,
While I agree God only holds us accountable for what we know, there is no excuse in todays day and age not to know. Especially if you live in any kind of developed country or have access to the internet. I found God and Quranist Islam 20 years ago without even internet because He guided me to it. I lived in a little town, in a little state in the USA when He answered me. I wanted to know and He showed me. If someone really wants to find and know the truth about God, He will show them, no matter where they are.
Unfortunately, most of the world suffers from apathy and indifference towards God. They don't care to know and are content with their inherited faiths or the faiths of their society. Willingly being ignorant of God's Message and requirements will not save anyone or be a valid excuse.
The god that dominates most of the world as I see it is our Ego. Mankind has become increasingly arrogant towards God and have made ourselves, our opinions and our desires the only guide in our lives. This is a tragedy and will doom multitudes of us. God isn't the one putting people in Hell, we put ourselves there.
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Salam,
While I agree God only holds us accountable for what we know, there is no excuse in todays day and age not to know. Especially if you live in any kind of developed country or have access to the internet. I found God and Quranist Islam 20 years ago without even internet because He guided me to it. I lived in a little town, in a little state in the USA when He answered me. I wanted to know and He showed me. If someone really wants to find and know the truth about God, He will show them, no matter where they are.
Unfortunately, most of the world suffers from apathy and indifference towards God. They don't care to know and are content with their inherited faiths or the faiths of their society. Willingly being ignorant of God's Message and requirements will not save anyone or be a valid excuse.
The god that dominates most of the world as I see it is our Ego. Mankind has become increasingly arrogant towards God and have made ourselves, our opinions and our desires the only guide in our lives. This is a tragedy and will doom multitudes of us. God isn't the one putting people in Hell, we put ourselves there.
While I agree it is more easy to gain info on Islam, the only issue is that some people either are too lazy to look into or have Islam demonized in their minds by who ever that they don't wanna even look up info on it. What fault are they at there?
As for ego, I agree there are many who give up religion and go for ego as they believe their ego makes better judgments than God. While one does sin, they know it is wrong and what they are doing is indeed wrong and thus accept the sin. Yet there are many muslims especially in the west who believe drink alcohol is right contrary to what God has told them. Thus their ego has taken over. Though I haven't honestly met too many who let that take over and rather if they do something cause their desire kicked in they have sinned as they realize they are sinning and know what they are doing is not right. Of course I see what you mean as well when you see dictators and all their followers following these horrible horrible egos of theirs of killing and terrorizing people contrary to what Allah has told them and think their law is correct and Allahs is not. Thus the average Libyan fighter against Gaddafi doesn't use his ego but rather a rightous mind to fight Gaddafi who used his ego to justify things such as rape and killing which he seems to have deemed lawful and thinks its better than what Allah has said is unlawful.
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I see what you mean as well when you see dictators and all their followers following these horrible horrible egos of theirs of killing and terrorizing people contrary to what Allah has told them and think their law is correct and Allahs is not. Thus the average Libyan fighter against Gaddafi doesn't use his ego but rather a rightous mind to fight Gaddafi who used his ego to justify things such as rape and killing which he seems to have deemed lawful and thinks its better than what Allah has said is unlawful.
Salaamu Aleikum Brother Aryan Warrior
I see you've fallen prey to the vicious lies, of the presstitute media, regarding Colonel Qadhafi, as I sadly admit did I for a while. In fact the colonel was a fellow Quraan Aloner, which made him hated by the ruler of Saudi Arabia and other oil magnates. Worse he was supporting freedom movements all over the world which made him the favourite object of hatred for the rulers of the west. Annoyingly he advocated and instituted a much more advanced form of democracy, direct democracy, in Libya than we see in the West; see his green book here
http//911-truth.net/other-books/Muammar-Qaddafi-Green-Book-Eng.pdf
He created an unprecedented welfare state in Africa; read here what Libyans will be missing from now on http//www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27280
For a refutation of the lies against him see here http//www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29064.htm wow -
Shalom,
It is difficult to declare the overall result before the day of judgement and everyone's judgement has been given to them.
I think we often misinterpret the part about "God accepting good deeds from believers only". There is a difference between someone to whom proof is given but they deny, and someone to whom the truth has not been presented the way it should have been.
For example, you are asking me to believe in a package of Qur'an + child molester +mass murderer + senseless + absurd , will it be my fault to get confused ??? Can not the most merciful be merciful with me ? Often times, people try to pass on their indoctrination instead of inviting others to God. I believe that my indoctrination is not the message of God, and to whom the message dont reach, they stand free of accusation of REJECTION.
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Salam,
We can only go by what God has said and what He has Promised and the examples He gives in the Quran. Anything else is wishful thinking on our part and will only mislead us.
He says He will divert people from His Revelations who are arrogant on earth. They will not find Him or the Truth by His will. He will guide to Him those who seek Him and submit to Him.
He says He only accepts from the Righteous and that only those who respond to Him, repent and lead righteous lives will enter Heaven.
An atheist can do all the good deeds they like for their whole life but it gains them nothing at God. Thats His Law. They will be rewarded for their works during this life, but they have no share in the hereafter. The same goes for Idol worshippers.He says we are responsible for using our brains to seek Him out in this world. He says if we are mislead by others who were misguided it is our fault. If we blindly followed our parents or societies, it is our fault. He says people will complain endlessly on Judgement Day that they wasted their lives and their chances to find God because they were too distracted and preoccupied by this worldly life to even bother finding Him or following His revelations.
No excuses will be accepted. There is no place on Earth God can't reach and guide people from IF they wanted to find God. If they are in an impossible situation where it is impossible to find or seek Him, then that is His will too and He will Judge them according to His knowledge of them, but the vast majority of the world is not in that situation. There is no reason other than disbelief and apathy towards God not to find the truth or seek Him out. And people fail to their own detriment.
Its a dangerous game we play with ourselves by trying to make up reasons people will go to Heaven that are not what God has Promised or described to us in the Quran. If we believe someone who is not obeying God, upholding His Commandments nor leading a righteous life is going to go to Heaven anyways, despite what God has said, then that is an enticement for us be more like them. Certainly if those types of people are going to Heaven, then certainly we will too, even if we behave a little like them. Or a lot. Its a form of wishful thinking that can easy compromise our duties and obligations to obey God and uphold His commandments.
We can only go by what God Promises and what examples He gives in Quran about the people who go to heaven and hell. What else is there to go by after that?
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Peace everyone peace
Glory be to God, because i was working on a topic similar to this, and i left it alone, and this post encouraged me to finish it, Thank you Aryan Warrior[/b.
Here is my topic
7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603259.0