Pronouncing God's Name on the Food changes it Molecularly!
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The Qustion is, what is the wisdom behind physically mentioning God's name onto the food before we eat it? (6119)
It is noteworthy to note that All food is Unlawful to eat, even if it is within the "lawful food group", UNLESS it has God's name Mentioned ON IT (6121) (i.e not in your mind, or intention, but out loud and projecting onto the food).Now what is the wisdom behind this?
You see, Sound is a form of Energy. It consists of vibrations which are projected and transmitted through any mechanical medium.
***Sound can travel through the air, water, and solid objects.
Now some time ago, a Japanese author experimented with water and found that positive changes to water occured when the water was exposed to such things as positive words, prayer, music. This inturn affected the crystals shape of the same water when it was frozen. When Positive words, prayer, music, was mentioned/exposed onto the water, the crystals produced from freezing the selfsame water looked better than the crystals produced from freezing water which had negative things mentioned over it. Motos hypothesis has evolved into a book called "The message of water"Now the real goodies are found in this video, where they experimented with the verses from the Quran and words of God etc.
When God's name was mentioned or a verse from the Quran, or a prayer etc onto the water, the crystals produced from the self same water produced a strikingly beautiful shape. The opposite was true when the negative things were mentioned, such as the devil, hate, kill etc.The Arabic video (Here are the video parts 1 & 2)
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfOTouziEig
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaLbPyx7hvAAgain, it is crucial to remember that All food is Unlawful to eat, even if it is within the "lawful food group", UNLESS it has God's name Mentioned ON IT (6121) (i.e. not in your mind, or intention, but out loud and projecting onto the food).
Praise be to God, the Lord of the Universes!
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Greetings and Peace, all group
Does AQ mean pronounce verbally? Ponder AQ 3135. Also, in AQ 82, "remembered" is more encompassing. One's heart can certainly reverence ALLAH without pronouncing the name of ALLAH.
By saying words alone, it is easy to slip into ritual (rituals quickly become automatic and mindless)--but to remember requires more than ritual. The prayer is to ALLAH alone. Why should one share a communication that is intended solely for the Allmighty--especially in cases where the communication is prone to be misunderstood if overheard? Is the heart or the tongue more sincere? hmm
Just to press the point home, what would requiring sound mean for people incapable of speaking? If my tongue was ripped out or I was otherwise incapable of speach, what should I do based on the COMPLETE instructions of AQ alone?
6118 So eat from that on which the name of GOD has been mentioned , if you indeed believe in His revelations.
6119 And why should you not eat that on which the name of GOD has been mentioned , when He has fully detailed to you what has been made unlawful; except what you are forced to? Many misguide by their desires without knowledge; your Lord is fully aware of the transgressors.
3135 And those who, if they commit lewdness, or wrong themselves, they remember GOD and seek forgiveness for their sins. And who can forgive the sins except GOD? And they do not persist in what they have done while they know.
82 The believers are those whom, when GOD is mentioned , their hearts reverence; and when His revelations are recited to them, it increases their faith; and they put their trust in their Lord.
7180 And to GOD belong the most beautiful names, so call Him by them; and leave alone those who deviate His names. They will be punished for what they used to do.
Of course say the name of ALLAH aloud as appropriate. It is far more important to sincerely remember/keep in mind ALLAH.
My two cents.
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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The Qustion is, what is the wisdom behind physically mentioning God's name onto the food before we eat it? (6119)
Salaam brother youssef,
It is not mentioning of Allah's name of food before we eat, but it has to be remembered at the time of slaughtering animals and 6119 is only referring to those.
Please check http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603163.msg287831#msg287831
I agree with brother Abdul-Hadi on this, and thank you for quoting aayaats brother Hadi.
May Allah guide us all to His true path pr
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I think you guys may have forgotten that it states the word "" which specifically means ON IT. How could you remember God's name On it without mentioning?
Moreover, in another verse, we see that God Almighty states that we should "Remember" His name upon the animals while their in line.
All and all, from this research that sound/words/music can influence matter such as water molecularly, it would seem appropriate to Mention the name of God out load, because it again, has a positive effect upon the nature of the food.
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Greetings and Peace, all group
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I think you guys may have forgotten that it states the word "" which specifically means ON IT. How could you remember God's name On it without mentioning?
Moreover, in another verse, we see that God Almighty states that we should "Remember" His name upon the animals while their in line.
All and all, from this research that sound/words/music can influence matter such as water molecularly, it would seem appropriate to Mention the name of God out load, because it again, has a positive effect upon the nature of the food.
2236 And the plump livestock, We have made them for you to be among the symbols of GOD; you will have benefit in them. So mention the name of GOD upon them in succession; then, once their sides have become still, you may eat from them and feed with them the poor and the needy. It was thus that We have made them in service to you, that you may be thankful.
The word (alayhā clearly means "over them".
AQ clearly states "remember" and not "mention". Proof
774 "And remember that He made you successors after 'Aad, and He established you in the land so that you make palaces on its plains, and you carve homes in the mountains. So remember the grace of GOD, and do not roam the earth as corrupters."
It is possible to remember ALLAH with each animal being slaughtered. If saying the name of ALLAH aloud helps a person to do this, then more power to them--they should undertake saying the name aloud. AQ is specific where it needs to be. Where the word "fa-udh'kur" is used, the instruction is NOT say, NOT invoke, NOT pronounce but REMEMBER.
This should also shed more light on the following Ayah, which in its turn provides yet more knowledge and instruction
7205 And remember your Lord within yourself, in humility and in reverence; and without loudness in words, during the morning and the evening. And do not be of the careless ones.
ISA, this adequately addresses the question of "How could you remember God's name On it without mentioning?"
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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Greetings & Peace right back at you Abdul-Hadi !
Well, you have convinced me! laugh
Some people might become paranoid and directly say God's name over the food because well, that is more affirming that the food has been "dedicated" to God Almighty.Also, the research that Stating a prayer Over the food/water, can change the food/water on a molecular level should also be noted. This is because It may have some positive physiological effect on the food, and later onto the body, as does prayer/positive affirmations/words etc.
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All I can say to this is "Take that!" to the traditionalists who kept saying you do not need to say Gods name over the food and that it means towards only meat and only at slaughter and that if not said it was impossible to eat and should be wasted e_e I remember kept hearing from Traditionalist saying "Oh saying Bismillah over your food will not magically make it halal" Well apparently it does thanks to this article and will thus have the same effect as the molecules would change just the same. Also this actually explain this verse quite well
"They ask you what was made lawful to them, say "All the good things have been made lawful for you, and what the trained dogs and birds catch, you teach them from what God teaches you." <b>So eat from what they have captured for you and mention the name of God upon it</b>, and be aware of God. God is swift in reckoning."
which goes to show how even after its already been slaughtered, the name of God can be mentioned on it and have the same effect as the article points out and in contrast to what traditionalists say.
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As noted by Abdul-Hadi, yuo do not need to Exactly Pronounce the name of God outload, All you need to do is remember God's name on the Food. Pronouncing the Name of God onto the food will do just that, but you can also just remember God's name onto the food.
As i mentioned before, It is still a worthwhile idea to pronounce God's name or a simple prayer onto the food, because of the research on the effect of prayer/positive words (etc) on water molecules in a positive way. -
Again, it is crucial to remember that All food is Unlawful to eat, even if it is within the "lawful food group", UNLESS it has God's name Mentioned ON IT (6121) (i.e. not in your mind, or intention, but out loud and projecting onto the food).
Shalom,
While I do understand your concerns, I must inform you that something so BOLD requires BOLD back up of the word of God. The whole idea of audio, resonance and its effect on food is your hypothesis. It can not be claimed as God's explanation. While I do understand that you have somewhat of a romance with THE NAME of THE GOD, I must inform you that not everyone will agree with you on WHAT IS HIS NAME and thus the food I eat is being declared HARAM by you because I have not taken THE NAME (according to you).
I am going this far with the subject because of your claim that the audio frequency involved does some magic. And I can assure you that if you list up all of the so called THE NAMES and check their frequencies, it will be clear as day that they are not the same.
The following is just for fun
Did you ever think of putting your food under microscope ? You can probably guess what I want you to do , right ? Well my friend, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof ) After all, we stepped into the world of science in this thread.
Anyways, please dont be offended by my post if I was a bit ARROGANT/WEIRD/watever... forgive me...so that Lord forgives you like you forgive me )
PEACE
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Shalom,
While I do understand your concerns, I must inform you that something so BOLD requires BOLD back up of the word of God. The whole idea of audio, resonance and its effect on food is your hypothesis. It can not be claimed as God's explanation. While I do understand that you have somewhat of a romance with THE NAME of THE GOD, I must inform you that not everyone will agree with you on WHAT IS HIS NAME and thus the food I eat is being declared HARAM by you because I have not taken THE NAME (according to you).
I am going this far with the subject because of your claim that the audio frequency involved does some magic. And I can assure you that if you list up all of the so called THE NAMES and check their frequencies, it will be clear as day that they are not the same.
The following is just for fun
Did you ever think of putting your food under microscope ? You can probably guess what I want you to do , right ? Well my friend, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof ) After all, we stepped into the world of science in this thread.
Anyways, please dont be offended by my post if I was a bit ARROGANT/WEIRD/watever... forgive me...so that Lord forgives you like you forgive me )
PEACE
--------------- Student of AllahPeace Student of Allah peace
Let me clarify By "the name", it means, ANY, of the names of God Almighty. I know i have been commenting about the name of God Almighty, as it is cited in the Hebrew language, in the Torah. Moreover, by "names", it would/could mean meanings, Because most of the names of God Amighty are just Attributes, (Allah ~ The God), (YHWH ~ the one who IS/Will be).
"God" is simply a title, Consider it as a sort of a "Job Title". God is God. no one can have the Right to assume his full title of being God.I Must Also Clarify my mistake. that You need to REMEMBER one of God's names on the Food, and not neccecarily directly mention it outload.
Thus in this manner, it should beAgain, it is crucial to remember that All food is Unlawful to eat, even if it is within the "lawful food group", UNLESS it has one of God's name Remembered ON IT (6121)
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Shalom Yousef,
Now that you clarified for us that it is more of remembering, not necessarily "spoken aloud", I have some questions. Let me re-quote you
Now what is the wisdom behind this?
You see, Sound is a form of Energy. It consists of vibrations which are projected and transmitted through any mechanical medium.
***Sound can travel through the air, water, and solid objects.
Now some time ago, a Japanese author experimented with water and found that positive changes to water occured when the water was exposed to such things as positive words, prayer, music. This inturn affected the crystals shape of the same water when it was frozen. When Positive words, prayer, music, was mentioned/exposed onto the water, the crystals produced from freezing the selfsame water looked better than the crystals produced from freezing water which had negative things mentioned over it. Moto?s hypothesis has evolved into a book called "The message of water"Now the real goodies are found in this video, where they experimented with the verses from the Quran and words of God etc.
When God's name was mentioned or a verse from the Quran, or a prayer etc onto the water, the crystals produced from the self same water produced a strikingly beautiful shape. The opposite was true when the negative things were mentioned, such as the devil, hate, kill etc.I highlighted some words and phrases in red for you to understand what I am focusing on. Now that you acknowledge that "speaking it out loud" is not necessarily what we should do, rather "remember it" is what we should do, what becomes of the status of the hypothesis ? The claim was that the audio frequency being absorbed by a material changes it's properties. If there is no audio, what happens to the whole hypothesis that we are discussing here ?
Once again, I am not here to bash your hypothesis. However, it is extremely important to rigorously test any hypothesis for flaws before it is exposed to general people.
I have a question about the arabic videos you posted. Did they test with lets say all arabic words, english words, french,german etc ? Any double blind experiments ? Because it is very much possible that the person undertaking the experiment recites sacred words in a fashion distinctly different from the time when he recites non-sacred words. That can produce a pattern in the results too. !! Another amazing fact is that many positive words in Qur'an are not positive sounding in other languages. This means that the experiments are only true as long as you take one language as a superior tongue and ignore other languages and base all experiments on one language.
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As noted by Abdul-Hadi, yuo do not need to Exactly Pronounce the name of God outload, All you need to do is remember God's name on the Food. Pronouncing the Name of God onto the food will do just that, but you can also just remember God's name onto the food.
As i mentioned before, It is still a worthwhile idea to pronounce God's name or a simple prayer onto the food, because of the research on the effect of prayer/positive words (etc) on water molecules in a positive way.True that, which i've recently discovered that invoked is a seperate word from the one used for that verse which the word invoke was used only when it was invoked in the name of another (which would make it unlawful) yet it doesn't use invoke for the one we are talking about and rather states to remember/mention which is there for all cases of it whether you are killing something, have caught something, or right about to eat it )