The name of the last prophet?
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I have hard time following you? Millions of Muslims are worshiping Muhammad and you ask me, in the name of Quran not to talk about that. Interesting.
Do you know how frequently I am chastised and harrassed and even threatened for calling Muhammed by his name without fabricated statements of praise?
Peace,
EdipWell I am chastised and harrassed because I am not even sure whether Muhammad exsisted or not!
Yes I know 1,3 billion muslims worship Muhammad. But even more people worship Jesus. Now would you also go in great details about the life of Jesus, his name etc.?
The truth is, that ela deenak we ela deeniy as the quran says, to your is your religion and to mine is mine. I would of course warn them if they came to me, but if I should sit here and worry about 1,3 billion muslims who worship Muhammad and 2 billion people who worship Jesus... Gosh I wont have time to do anything else hypno hypno
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I have hard time following you? Millions of Muslims are worshiping Muhammad and you ask me, in the name of Quran not to talk about that. Interesting.
Do you know how frequently I am chastised and harrassed and even threatened for calling Muhammed by his name without fabricated statements of praise?
Peace,
EdipIt is merely playing with words. No man on Earth worships him. The truth is that deluded people worship imposter messengers like Rashad Khalifa.
The true believers, , respect and acknowledge his raised ranks and always remember him with feel of respect.
See what Rashad Khalifa translates the verdict of Allah the Supreme Exalted about the man whom you wish not to remember and mention with feel of least respect, which otherwise you have for people like RK and others.
944 "We exalted you to an honourable position".
And when I write with his name, Exalted Messenger, some people get mentally and physically disturbed.
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All that focus on Muhammad sounds so sectarian to me, and believe me I really wanna get over my sectarian past.
So perhaps we should forget Muhammad, and try to move on by pondering over quranic verses.To get rid of your sectarian past you are throwing out the baby with the bath water rotfl
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Salaam to all,
http//www.dawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Iraq_Ashura_Bomb_Reuters_1_543x275.jpgDec 6, 2011
-->Twin suicide bombings killed 59 in in Afghanistan as the specter of sectarian violence now looms over Afghanistan.
http//www.freep.com/article/20111206/NEWS07/112060389/Iraqi-militants-bomb-Shi-ite-pilgrims-killing-21-wounding-100-->Five bomb attacks struck Shi'ite pilgrims Monday during an important religious ritual for the Muslim sect, killing 21 people and wounding nearly 100 others.
http//rt.com/news/afghanistan-suicide-bombing-sectarian-165/A chilling joke was the below news
-->Pakistan's interior minister has " thanked the Taliban" for not staging attacks during this year's Shiite religious ritual of Ashoura. Sunni extremists like the Taliban have often killed Shiites they regard as infidels over the Ashoura period, which ends Tuesday and passed peacefully in Pakistan.
http//www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Pakistani-minister-thanks-Taliban-for-not-bombing-2348258.phpPeace.
What is so great about posting what is widely coverd in the mass media already, instead it would be better for you to ponder upon why and since when these suicide bombing started and who is actully bhind them.
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Peace Edip,
An interesting proposition. I was wondering if you tested whether or not this holds true consistently as a meaning pattern with other words in Quran.
Imraan
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To get rid of your sectarian past you are throwing out the baby with the bath water rotfl
No I just dont really care about Muhammad because I never met or knew that man. The only thing i Know about him is that he was just another good muslim like thousands of other good muslims. I follow quran just as he did, hence me and him are both on the same positions or levels.
Quran is what I ophold. Not any human.
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The people of the past, the people of Mecca living at the time of revelation of Qur'aan also upheld the Qur'aan and orally and publicly confessed "We have heard it and have willingly and affectionately accepted it". Amongst them are people who are and will by the end time considered as greater in ranks than all other beings taking birth and living in time and space.
Yet they were advised and warned
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You people must not raise your voices over and above the voice of the Elevated, Distinct and Chosen Revivalist ,
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and you people should never for him be loud in speech/address like that manner some of you people talk loudly with others
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lest your deeds become worthlessBelief in Allah, the Exalted and all good deeds could go into dustbin as worthless merely for reason of raising voice and being loud in mouth about and for him.
What would happen to very loud mouths on this forum might not be an hidden secret. However still they have time to repent and amend thinking and habits before it is too late. Alternatively, for good and in sympathy, I can suggest that they need not proclaim as believers while retaining such mouth, which could help them to "enjoy" a somewhat better class in Hell-Prison and have company of Iblees. Proclamation of belief with loud mouth against the Messenger of Allah, the Exalted will yield the worst place, worst than the class of Iblees in Hell-Prison.
Who will go to Paradise? The Muttaqeen. And what is the litmus test to find who is Muttaqe? The Litmus test of identification is defined and prescribed by Allah, the Exalted.
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Indeed those people who humble/lower their voices in the presence/grace of the Messenger of Allah
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they are those whose hearts Allah at His own has examined and found them sincere/deserving for the Righteousness,4901-3
Free Minds-Progressive
492 O you who believe, do not raise your voices above the voice of the prophet, nor shall you speak loudly at him as you would speak loudly to each other, lest your works become nullified while you do not perceive.
493 Surely, those who lower their voices with the messenger of God, they are the ones whose hearts have been tested by God for righteousness. They have deserved forgiveness and a great recompense. -
No I just dont really care about Muhammad because I never met or knew that man. The only thing i Know about him is that he was just another good muslim like thousands of other good muslims. I follow quran just as he did, hence me and him are both on the same positions or levels.
Quran is what I ophold. Not any human.Salaam
That's your problem if you do not care about our prophet. There are many like you, on this website, doing their damndest to undermine the Prophet Muhammad for one reason or another, but those who read the Qur'an properly do get to know Muhammad. And no; he was no just another muslim like you nope Can you ever reach the same level or position as the one God granted to Prophet Muhammad? No you're insignificant just as I am, so much so that it makes no difference what you or I think!
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Mazhar,
You are qouting verses about respecting prophet Muhammed, but if you are following hadith books, you are among the most disrespectful people towards the prophet Muhammed, since they contain numerous insults and lies against him. Ironically, with this mindset of following religious fabrications, superstitions and sectarian dogmas, if you were alive when Muhammed was delivering the message of MONOTHEISM, reason, freedom, you would be among those who accused him of heresy!
Moreover, those who follow the fabricated hadith books and sectarian dogmas will be rejected by the very prophet they expect intercession 2530.
Peace,
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Mazhar,
You are qouting verses about respecting prophet Muhammed, but if you are following hadith books, you are among the most disrespectful people towards the prophet Muhammed, since they contain numerous insults and lies against him.
Edip,
Have you ever noticed in my posts a reference and reliance placed on a single one of what is called hadith?
You have accepted that I am quoting only from Qur'aan. And I believe and accept all, not partially, what is stated in the Qur'aan, including respecting and honouring whomever it orders to afford respect, dignity and salutations.
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AOA
hence me and him are both on the same positions or levels.
Sure! When Gabriel next visits you please post ASAP.
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Allah can exalt us.. we are his ultimate creation.. thats why he demanded the Shaytan to submit to us... WE are supposed to be greater than the sin, the fitna.. that Shaytan represents.. Allah can exalt the prophets of islam if he wills.. he exalted Nuh, Ibrahim , Musa , Isa and Muhammed..
It is a BIG difference when WE exalt other people !!! We have no such authority to do that..
Allah sub7an wa ta3la and Muhamed salawatul wa salem WA TA3LA ???? Exalted ??? Excuse me ? Only Allah is exalted !!!
Imagine that ! how Muslims freak out when the Christians say Jesus should be Exalted... some say like God others say like a partner with God.. but when muslims are criticized for doing the same with Muhammed, they cry out Kafir ! from the top of their lungs.. no, they dont like to hear the truth do they ????
Its like, these people seriosuly do not what idol worship is.. We are not saying that you all ( traditional muslims) worship Muhammad like God or like a son of God ( astaghfirulah) We are simply saying that you have digressed into a more sophisticated form of idol worship one that is so cunning it is not obvious at first. But inshallah with time, you all will realize how wrong and "bid'a" it is to give preference to Muhammed and Hadith only.. praising him with words like " May he be exalted" "May he be praised"
We are not supposed to idolize a man... no matter how great of a character that one man may have, all praise, all glory should be to God alone...Peace / Salaam / Paz !
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Edip,
Have you ever noticed in my posts a reference and reliance placed on a single one of what is called hadith?
You have accepted that I am quoting only from Qur'aan. And I believe and accept all, not partially, what is stated in the Qur'aan, including respecting and honouring whomever it orders to afford respect, dignity and salutations.Well, that is a good news. But, your initial reaction to my article had a non-Quranic BRACKET
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, the Exalted.
Where do read in the Quran telling you to SAY or WRITE "Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam" after Muhammed's name?
Peace,
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Where do read in the Quran telling you to SAY or WRITE "Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam" after Muhammed's name?
Aha da ayet sana amerikanya kirosu
3356 GOD and His angels help and support the prophet. O you who believe, you shall help and support him, and regard him as he should be regarded
sen gus?l abdesti almay biliyon mu bakalm 19 b?cei ;D yay
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Quote from Mazhar on Yesterday at 125609 AM
Edip,
Have you ever noticed in my posts a reference and reliance placed on a single one of what is called hadith?
You have accepted that I am quoting only from Qur'aan. And I believe and accept all, not partially, what is stated in the Qur'aan, including respecting and honouring whomever it orders to afford respect, dignity and salutations.
Well, that is a good news. But, your initial reaction to my article had a non-Quranic BRACKETQuote
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, the Exalted.
Where do read in the Quran telling you to SAY or WRITE "Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam" after Muhammed's name?Peace,
EdipPeace,
I may tell you another point, that I do not write or add anything in the parenthesis which is not mentioned in the Qur'aan.
I know that you do understand the menings of individual words in Arabic sentences of Qur'aan.
The Last three words are the predicate of Verb Like Particle Inna. You perhaps know that Inna is for emphasising the authenticity and certainity of the predicate. One of the Subject of the verb is Allah, the Exalted.
is definite, referring and identifying whom? Muhammad, with whom I have written in the parenthesis "Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'"- Have I lied or actually accepted and highlighted a truth mentioned about him in the Qur'aan?
Should you not accept me the most truthful? Reason!! The verb in above informative statement of Qur'aan is imperfect plural with indicative mood. I have written the same verb as singular Perfect, past tense where the subject is Allah, the Exalted. Muhammad "Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'" is not corporeally with me, for this reason the verb used is perfect. -
Peace, I may tell you another point, that I do not write or add anything in the parenthesis which is not mentioned in the Qur'aan.
I know that you do understand the menings of individual words in Arabic sentences of Qur'aan.
The Last three words are the predicate of Verb Like Particle Inna. You perhaps know that Inna is for emphasising the authenticity and certainity of the predicate. One of the Subject of the verb is Allah, the Exalted.
is definite, referring and identifying whom? Muhammad, with whom I have written in the parenthesis "Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'"- Have I lied or actually accepted and highlighted a truth mentioned about him in the Qur'aan?
Should you not accept me the most truthful? Reason!! The verb in above informative statement of Qur'aan is imperfect plural with indicative mood. I have written the same verb as singular Perfect, past tense where the subject is Allah, the Exalted. Muhammad "Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'" is not corporeally with me, for this reason the verb used is perfect.You are just parrotign one of the many Sunni distortions. Here are my counter arguments in three notes at the Quran a Reformist Translation.
2136 Say, "We acknowledge God and what was sent down to us and what was sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Patri-archs, what was given to Moses and Jesus, and what was given to the prophets from their Lord; we do not make a distinction between any of them and to Him we peacefully surrender."*
002136 See 2285. The verse is a refuta-tion of the innovation of adding words of praise after Muhammed's name. The verse tells us to mention the names of prophets without praising them. Those who worship Muhammed might seek an excuse in the fact that Muhammed's name is not mentioned here. However, the verse preemptively refutes such an argument by instructing us not to discriminate among God's prophets. Those who praise Mu-hammed's name with fabricated lengthy phrases are not followers of Muhammed, since Muhammed was a monotheist who invited people to praise God and submit to God alone, not himself. See 248; 3356.
3356 God and His controllers support the prophet. O you who acknowledge, you shall support him, and yield completely.*
033056 This verse is one of the most distorted and abused verses. We translated the word salli ala as "support/encourage." The same word occurs at 3343 and 999,103. When these verses are studied comparatively, the traditional abuse and distortion becomes evident. Through this distortion, Muslim masses are led to commemorate and praise Muhammed's name day and night, rather than his Lord's and Master's name (3341-42). Also, see 2157.
3343 He is the One who supports you, along with His controllers, to lead you out of darkness into the light. He is ever Compassionate towards those who acknowledge.
999 From the Arabs there is he who acknowledges God and the Last day, and considers his spending as a means towards God, and the support of the messenger. It indeed makes them closer. God will admit them in His mercy; God is Forgiving, Compassionate.*
9100 The pioneers of the emigrants and the supporters, and those who fol-lowed them in kindness; God has accepted them, and they have ac-cepted Him; and He prepared for them gardens with rivers flowing beneath in which they will abide eternally. Such is the great success.
9101 Among the Arabs around you are hypocrites, as well as from the city people; they are audacious in hypocrisy. You do not know them, but We know them. We will punish them twice, then they will be returned to a great punishment.
9102 Others who have acknowledged their sins, they have mixed good work with bad. Perhaps God will pardon them. God is Forgiving, Compassionate.
9103 Take from their money a charity to purify them and improve them with it, and support them. Your support is tranquility for them; and God is Hearer, Knowledgeable.009099-103 This verse exposes one of the most popular distortions made in the meaning of salla ala (to support, encour-age), which has been transformed into glorifying Muhammed's name day and night. See 3343,56 and 2136.