cheese enzymes
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Salam/Shalom,
No, Qur'an only forbids the flesh of the pig. eat
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Salam/Shalom,
No, Qur'an only forbids the flesh of the pig. eat
THIS!
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Salaam
Wouldn't processing of flesh of the pig into another food product still be the same thing? Following the logic of the previous post a cannibal taking human flesh and changing into cheese would make not human flesh. yuck I used to look for the kosher label on all my food products,but then I saw this http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gANHU8dbfg&feature=related -
Salam,
But Enzymes are produced in the stomach of the pig and not in the flesh. -
I think I should just become a vegetarian and call it a day, I can never get halal meat anyway. The Masjid has it but it is very expensive. Why does something as simple as putting dinner on the table have to be so complicated. I know supermarket meat is not dedicated to Allah, those animals are not dedicated to anything, just treated poorly. But what else can I do? I bought a few things from my masjid it was over 65 dollars for a 3 pounds of ground meat, stewing meat and some chicken legs. Any suggestions with the meat issue? I am diabetic so I need protein, I can't just eat bowls of carbs with out feeling sick.
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@MSW, Can we drink its blood as well? Its not its flesh or is it? I asked about people using humans for food and then turning lets say their enzymes into food stuff,did it make not human anymore? &
Salam
Like when they use human hair in bread? (L-Cysteine) Recently, most companies use duck feathers, but some still use human hair, like Kraft.
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Salam 3al'ard group,
I think that not eating pig at all will be the safest option. sun
Shalom peace
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Salam,
But Enzymes are produced in the stomach of the pig and not in the flesh. )Interesting point. We would really have to know why it is forbidden. If you can get such a benefit from somewhere else that would still be better for us, just as it would be a very good idea to refrain from intoxicants and use alternatives.
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I think I should just become a vegetarian and call it a day, I can never get halal meat anyway. The Masjid has it but it is very expensive. Why does something as simple as putting dinner on the table have to be so complicated. I know supermarket meat is not dedicated to Allah, those animals are not dedicated to anything, just treated poorly. But what else can I do? I bought a few things from my masjid it was over 65 dollars for a 3 pounds of ground meat, stewing meat and some chicken legs. Any suggestions with the meat issue? I am diabetic so I need protein, I can't just eat bowls of carbs with out feeling sick.
Switch over to eating more fish which is full of protein and usually not expensive (especially in America where theres plenty of fish).
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You can eat meat you didn't slay yourself even if Allah's name wasn't mentioned. You don't have to become a vegeterian
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I think I should just become a vegetarian and call it a day, I can never get halal meat anyway. The Masjid has it but it is very expensive. Why does something as simple as putting dinner on the table have to be so complicated. I know supermarket meat is not dedicated to Allah, those animals are not dedicated to anything, just treated poorly. But what else can I do? I bought a few things from my masjid it was over 65 dollars for a 3 pounds of ground meat, stewing meat and some chicken legs. Any suggestions with the meat issue? I am diabetic so I need protein, I can't just eat bowls of carbs with out feeling sick.
Salam Sister
I think the topic of what is halal and not must be a very dynamic discussion, otherwise we will get stuck in time so to say. The world is changing and so should also the muslim's approach to what is clean food. The Quran says the flesh of swine but it says nothing about using the swine for other purposes. Would it be halal for me to eat truffel when I know that trained pigs are used to find it? Can I use a knife crafted from a pig bone to slaughter an animal?
When looking at the environmental impact the domestic animal has on earth it somewhat ironically turns out that the pig is very eco-friendly. It does not need as much fields to graze on (cutting down forest) and it does not produce methane gas in its stomach like the cow or sheep does (yes it's true, a cow farting contributes to the green house effect). The fact is that the pig is so easy and cheap to raise that its meat will always sell at a lower price (chicken excluded).Of course Allah knows this..........He created the pig, an animal that is very easy for humans to raise and use as food........but He forbids us to eat it. I do not understand why but I do know that all arguments about meat from that particular animal not being healthy is just bs. For every negative aspect there is always a positive one to counter-act. ?
In the Quran it says do not eat the flesh of swine, so I stay away from the flesh of swine. But on the same time I battle with the latter part of 16115 where it says we are allowed forbidden food if we are forced out of necessity. The normal interpretation is if you are starving and no "halal" food is available you may proceed to eat swine. I find this view a little egoistic. From where does one derive that the "necessity" is directed towards a human in a particular situation and not the entire world in a particular situation? Right now we are slowly killing ourselves and it seems many people have adapted the "ostrich method", they simple bury their heads in the sand and pretend nothing is wrong. Isn't it necessary to eat food we know do not contribute in destroying the world? Isn't this what necessesity means? We know we are cutting down forests and we know we are fishing out the oceans and we know we are pumping our domestic animals full of antibiotics. Isn't it necessary for us to change our habits and eat food that is suistanable? Isn't this what the term "halal" actually means today?In the Quran it says do not eat the flesh of swine, so I do not eat the flesh of swine, and that is where I draw the line as to His guidance on swine because if I have to make a choice between a low carbon footprint cheese and a high carbon footprint cheese I choose the low, with our without pig enzymes. To me, that is "halal" food.
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Hi Indelwyn.
My understanding is that cheese produced under the major labels -- i.e., the large scale cheese manufacture -- you can fairly figure is made with synthesized or other-than-mammal source rennet. If you want the highest confidence you can have practically -- without making your own cheese/s --, you might go with kosher cheeses.
Because of pork avoidance, I do my best to avoid gelatin, which is in so many grocery items, besides in so many OTC and other medicine capsules. In my area there is sold only one brand of yogurt without gelatin, and that brand without gelatin is much more costly. From time to time I buy a small container of that brand, from which to culture much more yogurt, which I then freeze over blended fruit in serving size portions.
My household is not within practical proximity to any halal or kosher meat markets. We use a lot of eggs, cheeses, and seafood. Of other meats, we use only beef and chicken, but not so much of them, and we generally stretch these meats through large quantity recipes.
When we have burgers we use the textured vegetable protein type, and of those available we much prefer the ones that are not meatlike in taste and texture. They cost a bit more than burgers of ground beef, but we like them much better than beef ones. They make for more convenient cooking and cleanup too, and they have far lower fat content than beef ones.
I do not think that God's guidance means for those of us in this general time and place -- our general circumstances -- to be so burdened in having proper diet. We thank God for our provisions and acknowledge the sacrifice of other creatures' lives to provide us with food.