The Big Bang Theory
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Salam,
Welcome to the forum. welcome
The theory makes sense to me. It does not account for everything, but its a very rational model of "how" things happened and why it is the way it is now.
Peace
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It is perfectly the reason why the universe that we live it happened. God caused it and made everything within it grow from it. I know there is actually a verse in the Quran that confirms this too but I don't remember exactly where at the moment.
Also ironically the atheists LOVE to claim this to be the reason why God is not real when in fact it supports God more than anything especially with how the one who came up with the theory originally was a catholic priest XD
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It is perfectly the reason why the universe that we live it happened. God caused it and made everything within it grow from it. I know there is actually a verse in the Quran that confirms this too but I don't remember exactly where at the moment.
Also ironically the atheists LOVE to claim this to be the reason why God is not real when in fact it supports God more than anything especially with how the one who came up with the theory originally was a catholic priest XD
Salam,
"And the heaven We constructed with resources, and We are expanding it."
"Have those who rejected not seen that the heavens and the earth were one piece, so We split them apart? And that We have made from the water everything that lives. Will they not believe?"
So the idea that things were joined in a place and it was split apart is expressed by Qur'an(2130). And from the point of the Bang, the universe is expanding, that is expressed by Qur'an too(5147).
Peace
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Greetings and Peace, all group
@Blake welcome
Personally, I believe that the "evidence" of a big bang is merely the residue of a black hole exploding. In any case, anything that happens is by permission of ALLAH.
If talking about the TV show, it is a little tacky, but entertaining.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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Salam,
"And the heaven We constructed with resources, and We are expanding it."
"Have those who rejected not seen that the heavens and the earth were one piece, so We split them apart? And that We have made from the water everything that lives. Will they not believe?"
So the idea that things were joined in a place and it was split apart is expressed by Qur'an(2130). And from the point of the Bang, the universe is expanding, that is expressed by Qur'an too(5147).
Peace
------------- Student of AllahAh thank you so much for getting these verse ^_^ I didn't know there were two of them, well further confirmation P
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Salaam, thank you for your replies. I heard Steven Hawkins say something like as time didn't exist before the big bang then nothing could exist, including God, as there is nothing for Him to exist in. But that doesn't make sence to me as I guess God is 'beyond time' & He created it, if you know what I mean?
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Salaam,
the theory of the big bang is an utter fabrication, it has been comprehensively disproved again and again, it is based upon the idea of the most dominant force in the universe being gravity, and that matter can be infinitely compressed, both ideas are utter rubbish, they have had to invent more lies to keep the original lie of the big bang from being rejected, ideas like black holes, which is another invention, dark matter, which they need to account for 96% of the matter in existence to make the maths work, but there is no proof at all of its existence, no one can see or prove its existence, but people are told to believe upon blind faith, we must believe the lies of the elite.
As the big bang is a lie, to use verse of the Qur'an in its support begs the question, can the verses in there present translations be made to justify any invention?
The force of gravity is billions of times weaker than other forces, if for example you travel 200 miles off of the surface of the earth you will find no gravity at all, it is not the gravity of the Sun that holds the planets, it is an electrical system, the moon for example is 250,000 miles from the earth, and has an effect upon the oceans but this is not gravity, it is an energy exchange, upon the facets of the crystal, as the earth is a giant growing crystal, as 99% of all solid mass is.
If you consider compression, if you go to the deepest part of our oceans, with pressures of staggering force, water is the same volume, it is not reduced in volume at all, this is because the water is pushing against fluidic space, the underlying emanating reality that is why everything moves in waves, waves through a fluid.
The powers that be, which in the case of the big bang is the Roman Catholic Church, want to stop people understanding how the universe functions, as their religion is based upon a God, but the evidence of reality removes that invention and presents a different reality, one without a God, that means you need no religions, prayer, worship, adoration or faith, and without all that you have Islam, and the church is at war with Islam.
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Salaam,
the theory of the big bang is an utter fabrication, it has been comprehensively disproved again and again, it is based upon the idea of the most dominant force in the universe being gravity, and that matter can be infinitely compressed, both ideas are utter rubbish, they have had to invent more lies to keep the original lie of the big bang from being rejected, ideas like black holes, which is another invention, dark matter, which they need to account for 96% of the matter in existence to make the maths work, but there is no proof at all of its existence, no one can see or prove its existence, but people are told to believe upon blind faith, we must believe the lies of the elite.
As the big bang is a lie, to use verse of the Qur'an in its support begs the question, can the verses in there present translations be made to justify any invention?
The force of gravity is billions of times weaker than other forces, if for example you travel 200 miles off of the surface of the earth you will find no gravity at all, it is not the gravity of the Sun that holds the planets, it is an electrical system, the moon for example is 250,000 miles from the earth, and has an effect upon the oceans but this is not gravity, it is an energy exchange, upon the facets of the crystal, as the earth is a giant growing crystal, as 99% of all solid mass is.
If you consider compression, if you go to the deepest part of our oceans, with pressures of staggering force, water is the same volume, it is not reduced in volume at all, this is because the water is pushing against fluidic space, the underlying emanating reality that is why everything moves in waves, waves through a fluid.
The powers that be, which in the case of the big bang is the Roman Catholic Church, want to stop people understanding how the universe functions, as their religion is based upon a God, but the evidence of reality removes that invention and presents a different reality, one without a God, that means you need no religions, prayer, worship, adoration or faith, and without all that you have Islam, and the church is at war with Islam.
Shalom,
Take it wasy, the Qur'an does not state "It is We who created the universe and it We did the BIG BANG as theorized by Stephen Hawking and others that you know".
Qur'an validates the idea that there is expansion going on. (5147)
Which if you turn the clock backward means that we were more tightly packed at one point of time.
Qur'an validates the idea that there was a phase where a splitting of matter and space was necessary. (2130)
Which is pretty close to the what was theorized by Stephen's generation. I agree just as stated before that Qur'an (not being a text book of physics) does not support any scientific theory from TOP TO BOTTOM.
As we learn more and more many models may come up, however, I am interested to know your part of the story. Would you mind sharing ? I am extremely curious )
Peace
------------- Student of Allah
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Salaam Student,
if the galaxies all began at the same time, they would be uniform in age, distance from the point of origin, direction away from the origin, this is not the case, the galaxies were never a single mass, ever, the expansion of the universe itself is not a fact, it is much more likely a circulation within a toroid shaped universe, as this is the dominant form of all energy systems.
Every planetary or solar body is expanding, as it is not a closed energy system as the elite want you to believe, they need you to believe that lie to continue to charge you for energy, electrical, fossil, even so called green alternatives are bound in the lie of a closed energy system, this could not be further from the truth.
Please watch this collection of videos to see the earth is expanding
http//www.nealadams.com/nmu.html
The universe is not gravity driven it is a plasma universe, the dynamics of energy feed and shape the universe through a constant exchange from the underlying reality, Tesla demonstrated this a hundred years ago, this is why the elite worked to stop universities from using Quaternion mathematics and use the utterly worthless abstract mathematics to manufacture a fantasy that has no basis in fact, the lies if the zionist 'Saint' Einstein, who was wrong on almost everything he made up based upon abstract mathematics, with the help of his wife, as he wasn't very good at maths, is now taught, and is nothing more than propaganda.
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Salam Servant,
Thank you for taking the time to write so much about your subject of interest. Inshallah I will take the time to watch it. It would be worth my time if you can provide the evidences to back them up (ofcourse physics ,mathematics and observations and experiments to back up your hypothesis). As an enthusiast of the field, I am pretty much shaken by your hypothesis hypno But I am sure you get that reaction often.
Another short question
Were you a christian before ?
Anyways, thank you for taking the time and sharing what you know. )
May God increase us in knowledge and guide us to his straight path.
Peace be on you.
---------------------------- Student of Allah
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Salaam Student,
I have never been a Christian, or a Jew, or a Zoroastrian, or a Hindu, or a Buddhist, I have never followed any religion of any sort, ever, and still do not, religion is a crime against those around you, it is designed as an encroachment and imposition, as you know Islam is a Deen, and the Qur'an states clearly all religions are worthless, it makes no exceptions.
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Salaam Blake,
Allah is a wide subject, it depends what you want to know, if you want to understand the word Allah
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/7/27/
and
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/129/162/
If you want to understand the structure of Allah
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/10/1/
if you want to understand the nature of Allah
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/92/124/
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Greetings and Peace, all group
...the Qur'an states clearly all religions are worthless, it makes no exceptions.
AQ states nothing of the kind--it doesn't even use the word "religion" although specific religions are mentioned. If "religion" is not mentioned, then how can one glean the "clear" meaning that all religions are worthless? hmm AQ does place emphasis on creed, and frequently talks about system/Deen. Even those who follow a specific religion (262, 569, etc) will have a good end if they follow the correct creed. AQ is complete. If religion is not mentioned, religion is not necessary for the Deen. This being said, the above quote is false on its face. Incredible (literally not credible) claims require incredible (overwhelmingly extraordinary) proofs, else 2855 applies.
2120 Neither the Jews nor the Nazarenes will be pleased with you until you follow their creed . Say "The guidance is the guidance of GOD." And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then there is none who can help or protect you against GOD.
2130 And who would abandon the creed of Abraham except one who fools himself? We have selected him in this world, and in the Hereafter he is of the righteous.
262 Surely those who believe; and those who are Jewish, and the Nazarenes, and the Sabians, whoever of them believes in GOD and the Last Day and does good works; they will have their recompense with their Lord, and there is no fear upon them, nor will they grieve.
378 And from among them is a group who twist their tongues with the Book so that you may think it is from the Book, while it is not from the Book, and they say it is from GOD while it is not from GOD and they say about GOD lies while they know.
@Abdun NurAt least you didn't say that religion is unlawful!
May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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Salaam Abdul,
you use a translation based upon hadith definitions, how accurate is that? Religion is not Deen, Islam is not a religion, therefore all religions are worthless, having nothing to do with the guidance of the Qur'an, so nothing to do with the guidance of the Creator.
Consider the incredible ignorance of the Muslim world at the present time, its quiet impressive, when you consider the Muslim world was the light of the world for 200 years, and then began to fade with the introduction of religion, now extinguished by religion completely.
The minds of the Muslims of the past moved the world forward, advancing technology, knowledge, society; the minds of the Muslims of the present are stagnant, confused and pride themselves on their stupidity.
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Greetings and Peace, all group
Salaam Abdul,
you use a translation based upon hadith definitions, how accurate is that? Religion is not Deen, Islam is not a religion, therefore all religions are worthless, having nothing to do with the guidance of the Qur'an, so nothing to do with the guidance of the Creator.
Consider the incredible ignorance of the Muslim world at the present time, its quiet impressive, when you consider the Muslim world was the light of the world for 200 years, and then began to fade with the introduction of religion, now extinguished by religion completely.
The minds of the Muslims of the past moved the world forward, advancing technology, knowledge, society; the minds of the Muslims of the present are stagnant, confused and pride themselves on their stupidity.
@Abdun Nur I used the FM translation, backed with cross-referencing the Arabic. In this way, AQ references itself. When I use the actual Arabic to confirm the English, meanings are quite accurate! You seem to be quite familiar with hadith. If the translation used is not adequate in your view, provide a better English translation, and we'll use that to discuss the topic at hand.
It is easy to criticize without offering a better solution or contributing towards solving the problem. Religion may be of no use for the Deen, but that does not mean that religion is worthless--much as although the automobile has nothing to do with religion, it is quite useful. You stated that "...the Qur'an states clearly all religions are worthless, it makes no exceptions." and I called you on it. Where are YOUR references, if your claims have merit? hmm
Religion contains a system. It is the system and not the religion that is the subject of interest in AQ. This is why a nontrinitarian Christian (or other) can be a brother or sister in monotheism, ISA. Religion is not inherently bad--but some people use it to manipulate others. This is not limited to the organization of religion--government, nationalism, racism, any "ism", etc, can all be and have been used by some at the expense of others. It isn't a news flash. Religion shouldn't be singled out for examination, and neither should we "throw out the baby with the bath water".
Just because a person holds a viewpoint does not mean that that viewpoint is the only valid one. The world is a better place for diversity. I doubt that either you or I are the best or worst in creation--think about the implications regarding our opinions and views. hmm Prove your viewpoint or at least support it with Quranic evidence. This is in keeping with the forum rules and common sense. Anyone can talk.
1736 And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of. For the hearing, eyesight, and heart, all these you are responsible for.
1069 Say "Those who invent lies about GOD, they will not be successful."
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi