Salat - only two times mentioned in the Quran
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Very interesting point Lachini.
What is it, according to you, then, a format for the prayer and the salat, instead of traditional 5 times ritualistic Muslim prayer worship?
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Salaam
Dear Godsubmitter
Upon your request I studied the subject from different sources and I came to the conclusion that redsulphur 1229 is right but he mistranslates some of the Quranic verses or quotes them from the mistranslated sources.
For instance
Establish worship at the two ends of the day
If the two ends of the day were the case , then must have been used. is a dual plural in Arabic meaning two ends or two edges but means only one end and in this case one end of the day.
Surely my conclusion may be wrong and therefore I need your and the other friends' help and guidance.
May God bless you.
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Peace,
Salam,
The easiest pitfall of 11114 is to "assume" that the day only has 2 parts (thus we end up looking at dusk & dawn - and since "near night" is dusk, we assume the verse is simply being repeptitive).
The day has at least 3 parts (see 20130) - which means that 11114 is refering to the "first 2 parts" (dawn & noon) while the last part os refering to the 3rd Salat "dusk" which is near the night.
Taraf = extremity/edge, so it definitely refers to sunset and sunrise, but the parts that are in proximity/closeness to the night - dawn and dusk.
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salaam/peace all,
Taraf = extremity/edge, so it definitely refers to sunset and sunrise, but the parts that are in proximity/closeness to the night - dawn and dusk.
Isn't it amazing people dont realise that when it says adjacent/proximal/near, they dont ask, "near to what?". If they did ask this simple question, all would become clear.
Quran clearly implies a minimum of two daily salat for the mumineen/believers. Only two are named in it. There is a reasonable example of two daily in Quran itself, and in early Islamic history, they clearly show it was two. Seems convincing to me.
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Do you think the number of prayer per day is the most important?
How come everyone is still discussing it if it was that clear?
What about the ones who want to pray more than 2,3,5 ....
652 Do not dismiss those who implore(pray to) their Lord day and night, (Asking their creator to help them decide in this life!) devoting themselves to HIM ALONE.( They are not wasting your time!) You are not responsible for their reckoning, nor are they responsible for your reckoning.( It is their own time!) If you dismiss them, ( You are being unfair!) you will be a transgressor.?
I agree with one thing, that you should ponder the word of GOD to check for yourself, after all
2784 When they arrive, HE ( GOD-your creator-) will say? You have rejected my revelations before acquiring knowledge about them. Is this not what you did?? ?
Has GOD left it up to us?
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http//www.aididsafar.com/mental.html
no RITUAL!!!!
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I am asking you to acquire knowledge about the revelations of your lord! ( 2784)
I am not asking you to do any "ritual".
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Has GOD left it up to us?
Peace.Of course He has! He has left it up to us to use our reason and intellect to the best of our ability and to follow and apply the Quran in our lives to the best of our ability and understanding, with sincerity.
I think that is a big part of our Test - to follow others without knowledge or understanding or to follow only that with which we have a reasonable understanding of for ourselves. If that is only twice? Then do that. If you find 3 times, then do that and if you find 5 then do that too and put your trust in God and always be willing to listen to other points of view and understandings to keep learning.
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Of course He has! He has left it up to us to use our reason and intellect to the best of our ability and to follow and apply the Quran in our lives to the best of our ability and understanding, with sincerity.
I think that is a big part of our Test - to follow others without knowledge or understanding or to follow only that with which we have a reasonable understanding of for ourselves. If that is only twice? Then do that. If you find 3 times, then do that and if you find 5 then do that too and put your trust in God and always be willing to listen to other points of view and understandings to keep learning.
Salaam all,
I agree to each and everything what Q wrote... oops! I mean what Mr. Q wrote. )
May Allah guide us all to His true path pr
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Of course He has! He has left it up to us to use our reason and intellect to the best of our ability and to follow and apply the Quran in our lives to the best of our ability and understanding, with sincerity.
I think that is a big part of our Test - to follow others without knowledge or understanding or to follow only that with which we have a reasonable understanding of for ourselves. If that is only twice? Then do that. If you find 3 times, then do that and if you find 5 then do that too and put your trust in God and always be willing to listen to other points of view and understandings to keep learning.
i like it so much ) thanks for your wise words
