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Relationship between believers and Muhammad (S)

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    mubashir55
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    Question Is it proper, as some Muslims do, to address Muhammad (S) as "Master?"

    379 Never would a human being, whom Allah has blessed with the Scripture, Wisdom and Prophethood, thereafter say to people, ?Be servants of me instead of Allah.? Rather, he would say, ?Become true devotees of the Lord since you learn and teach the Book and study it as it should be studied.

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    Muhammad(saw) for many Muslim is what Quran says.

    Quran says He(saw) has more rights on believers than their own Nafs.

    Ownership of Nafs is far more than just Servant-Master relation.

    A Master can own body of servant but not his soul and nafs.

    A Master can own the body of a servant as long as he is living...the moment he is dead proprietary rights are finished...Mohammad(saw) own the believers even after their and His(saw) own worldly death.

    I hope this bunch of Qur'anists understand the meanings of NAFS.

    Besides Quran says "your Wali is Allah and His Apostle..........."

    Those who call Mohammad "Mowla" exactly following Quran....Those who deny, are playing with Quran.

    Since there cannot be a contradiction in the Qur'an, what then is the correct interpretation of relationship between Muhammad (S) and his followers both back when he was alive and today?

    Thanks.

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      Indelwyn
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      Quran says He(saw) has more rights on believers than their own Nafs.

      Can you give me the Surah and ayah for this?

      Jesus, was also called "Master" by his disciples.

      Many students out of respect will call their teacher Master... Martial arts, prophets.... I guess I am not seeing the point or seeing it as a big deal.

      Nafs... Psyche, ego, soul; inner self - the evil side of your soul.

      So he has more rights over me then the evilness in my soul? Well in a way yes, He is calling me to the Message of my Lord (Quran) which has some things my nafs may not agree to. Examples Pre-marital sex, alcohol and so on. But I need to obey his message-- the Quran and submit to my Lord.

      I am sure someone here with more knowledge can add to this.

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        Thanks for commenting.

        The Qur'an says that if was not from Allah, we would have found many contradictions in it.

        Sure, when the Messenger was alive, Allah told those who were formulating their beliefs, what the role of a Messenger is. Had they any doubts, verses like these helped to settle for them which camp they belonged. It told them, for example that their allegiance belonged not only in terms of a verbal acceptance but it was more than that and it involved their whole hearted support.

        As for wali (protector, as appointed by Allah) was valid when the Messenger was alive. Now we have only ONE Wali who is Allah SWT.

        If we read the principle here, all else falls into place

        379 Never would a human being, whom Allah has blessed with the Scripture, Wisdom and Prophethood, thereafter say to people, ?Be servants of me instead of Allah.? Rather, he would say, ?Become true devotees of the Lord since you learn and teach the Book and study it as it should be studied

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