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What will be the real victory?

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    Surah 110 1

    Whenever, gift from Allah (one who is not a deity for worship) shall transpire as the opener and teacher.

    it is conjunct, usually denotes future time and implying a condition in which case it is always prefixed to a verb.
    is a verb, root again week verb of class. Please recall the rule 1 whenever, a ya or waw, are second letter of root. These will change into alif, if preceding letter has fetha as vowel and third letter has vowel as well.
    is a noun from root means ?an aid, help, gift?
    explained before, it is phrase meaning ?one who is not a deity for worship?.
    explained before translated here ?as?
    Definite article ?al? explained before and noun from root (he opened or he taught?).

    Surah 110 2

    Then, it shall make you comprehend the confusion. They shall enter into customs and habits, of Allah (one who is not a deity for worship), as followers in multitude.

    Waw explained before
    a verb with a second person pronoun attached at the end which is ?ta?. It?s root is , meaning ?to see with eyes or with mind?
    explained before it means the confusion.
    third person plural imperfect, root meaning ?he entered?
    a particle with several meanings, ?in?
    a noun from same letters root meaning ?customs and habits?.
    explained before
    it is plural fractus or broken plural from root meaning ?group of people, company of followers or in multitude

    Surah 110 3

    Then go to and fro often for accomplishment of your needful affairs with praise of your Rabb as well seeking rectification for everything of him. For sure he is one to keep repenting often and repeatedly.

    prefixed particle a particle of classification and gradation, meaning and, so, then, thereupon etc
    an imperative verb form 2 of root being second form adds meaning of ?often? root meaning ?he went to and fro in accomplishment of his needful affairs?.
    a prefixed preposition with multiple meanings here ?with? then a noun from root meaning ? he praised).
    explained before
    in the end is personal pronoun meaning ?him?. The rest of the word is from root ?he covered everything or rectified? it is verb?s 10th form. Which further ad?s meaning of ?seeking, asking for or demanding to verbal root.
    combination of particle meaning ?surely, truly and for sure? meaning ?him?
    is a weak verb means ?was and were?, but used for universal truths, it is translated as ?is?
    it is a verbal noun at the measure of which added meanings of often and repeatedly to root, which is ?repent?.

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      good_logic
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      Peace bkanwar2.

      How can you say- quote-" praise of your Rabb as well seeking rectification for everything of him" when you say-quote again" one who is not a deity for worship".

      Then you add" For sure he is one to keep repenting often and repeatedly."
      Sorry ,this is a bit confusing!.
      Peace.

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        Peace bkanwar2.

        How can you say- quote-" praise of your Rabb as well seeking rectification for everything of him" when you say-quote again" one who is not a deity for worship".

        Then you add" For sure he is one to keep repenting often and repeatedly."
        Sorry ,this is a bit confusing!.
        Peace.

        Good logic very valid observations and points. Again it has more to do with understanding of the language and our understanding of it, influenced by years of our brain washing and conditioning. Keeping in mind your objections, as well understanding of word Allah and little bit of understanding of the book so far.

        One meaning, I have understood is "a degree for length and breath of land".

        in this sentence, final third person pronoun ?hu?. Is it referring to Rabb? or should it be translated as "it" referring to first verse? which appears to me pointing to Quran itself. If this is the case then final verse should read as.

        Subsequently, go to and fro often for accomplishment of your needful affairs with degree for length and breath of land from your Rabb, as well seek rectification for everything from it. For sure keep repenting often and repeatedly to it.

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          Peace bkanwar2.

          I heard of " born again Christian". Is this now " born again Muslim"?

          If we are all brainwashed, and we need a clean slate, Where is this new alphabet with its new words and new meanings found?

          Who will teach this new understanding?

          I tend to rely on GOD Alone. Meanwhile I shall keep praying and trusting in my Lord. I have complete confidence in my Lord to guide me to his truth.
          Thanks for your effort.
          Peace.

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            Peace bkanwar2.

            I heard of " born again Christian". Is this now " born again Muslim"?

            If we are all brainwashed, and we need a clean slate, Where is this new alphabet with its new words and new meanings found?

            We need a slate which is clean of current translation, which almost all, whether believers or non-believers have accepted as the real Quran. We literally need looking at each and every alphabet/letter of the book.

            Who will teach this new understanding?

            All this is preserve in the archives of the language. Just needs exploring.

            I tend to rely on GOD Alone. Meanwhile I shall keep praying and trusting in my Lord. I have complete confidence in my Lord to guide me to his truth.
            Thanks for your effort.
            Peace.

            Without trusting our Rabb, one can get, no where. However, everything happens according to his laws. Here it is obvious that a book which is written in certain language. It could only be understood by understanding the rules of the language. This part is ours to do. Just praying to Rabb to do our part never worked and will never work.

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              Good logic very valid observations and points. Again it has more to do with understanding of the language and our understanding of it, influenced by years of our brain washing and conditioning. Keeping in mind your objections, as well understanding of word Allah and little bit of understanding of the book so far.

              One meaning, I have understood is "a degree for length and breath of land".

              in this sentence, final third person pronoun ?hu?. Is it referring to Rabb? or should it be translated as "it" referring to first verse? which appears to me pointing to Quran itself. If this is the case then final verse should read as.

              Subsequently, go to and fro often for accomplishment of your needful affairs with degree for length and breath of land from your Rabb, as well seek rectification for everything from it. For sure keep repenting often and repeatedly to it.

              What is your view of the previous scriptures?

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                There should not be any previous scriptures. If theory about any previous scriptures is true than there can not be a Rabb. There likely was and is only one book that can be called a scripture. This is based upon limited and part understanding of Quranic text and not its translation. As its current translation in most part is similar to so called previous scripture.

                The Bible is a book about Jesus and not what Jesus might have said or brought. Additionally, the information even about Jesus contained in the Bible could be surmised on a couple 4x4 cards. Rest of it consists of stories and fables. This is a fact about gospels. Other books that constitute Bible even do not claim to be related to Jesus. Same holds for Old testament.

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