Surah : 106 - Quraish
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Surah 1061
After resorting, getting accustom and familiar with great collection.
is preposition with several meanings due context its meanings in sense of has been used which means ?after?.
This is followed by . However, this word?s measure/ as used in current quranic print is not explainable. Although, Lane points out that there were three readings of this word. Beside this one other two being and final as . The final form was a reading of prophet himself. However due to unknown reasons first two were adopted. The first one used currently in Quranic text has no measure to explain it. This is the one in current text. Its root is meaning ?he resorted to it, he became familiar with it or accustomed with it?.
Traditionally, it is considered as proper noun and name of the tribe of Prophet. But a proper noun is debarred from taking a Tenween. Hence it can not be a proper name and name of a tribe. It is a common noun. It is from root at measure of , root meaning is ?he collected? plus measure adds meaning of enhancement ?great?.Surah 1062
Their familiarity with it shall help to endure patiently through the seasons of dearth and abundance.
Explained above, plus suffixed 3rd person plural noun meaning ?their?.
A verbal noun from root at the measure called a noun of kind adding meaning of ?manner, mode or way of verb, to root meaning which is ?he endured patiently?
A definite noun from root commonly used for winter. But also signifies ?dearth, drought?.
Waw a conjunct followed by a definite noun from root , commonly used for ?summer? but a season in which land is rained upon.Surah 1063
Therefore, let they be bondsman of Rabb, this is the nobility.
Fa is a particle meaning ?therefore, then? follows by ?lam? of imperative followed imperfect plural verb from root , usually mean ?he worshiped? but due context and other concepts else where worship is not the object of creation of humans, as well word Allah itself means ?One who is not a deity for worship? meaning of ?bondsman? is chosen.
Explained multiple times before
Means ?this and that?
a definite noun from root with several meanings but due context chosen ?nobility?. Additionally, these two words together form a compound phrase called pointing to acting as bondsman of Rabb.Surah 1064
One who provides them with means of sustenance, while devoid of these; as well provides them with tranquility of mind and heart in fear.
Singular relative noun meaning ?one who?
V ? 3rd person masculine singular (form IV) perfect verb from root ?supplying with means of sustenance?, Followed by 3rd person plural noun.
A preposition with several meanings here ?in?
a noun from root literally meaning ?he was hungry? however due to context in relation to meanings of previous word as means of sustenance used ?devoid of these, instead of hungry?.
? waw? a conjunct meaning ?as well, and?
V ? 3rd person masculine singular (form IV) perfect verb from root ? he became tranquil in heart and mind?, followed by 3rd person pronoun.
A preposition with various meanings here ?while?.
A noun from root ?he feared?. -
Traditions of Islam claims that this Chapter of Quran is about the Tribe of prophet. His tribe?s name was Quraish. This account of its description is based upon hearsay and has no basis what so ever in the language of Quran. Which is the case with all the current translation and understanding of Quran. This Chapter is a protype to highlight this point. It also points out lots of other discrepancies and contradiction in understanding of Quran. These are usually either not thought of or are shoved under the rug by scholars of Islam by feeble arguments. Following are the concerns about this chapter that deserve serious contemplation and consideration.
- Traditional claim is that Quran is for all times and places. However, the traditional meanings of this chapter are only addressed to a given tribe. If it was for all times to come why address to an entity in a given time? Why not use a general language for all addresses?
- With hearsay based historical accounts about prophet?s tribe there can be no other understanding of this chapter. However, current understanding has roots only into history/hadith, without having any linguistic basis. In other words, the words are assigned meanings based upon historical/hadith accounts and not upon linguistic merits and rules.
- Finally, if there really was a tribe by the name of Quraish in Hijaz why has this tribe disappeared in current time? There is no one in KSA who claims to belong to Quraish. Please mind it that Arabs are still a very tribal society. Is it not counter institutive that this tribe was so respected and became further respected and noble due a prophet coming among it? There is no one in its place of existence or origin to claim his/her heritage to it?
Surah 1061
Upon abandonment of social practice, from a collection based upon multiple sources.
Syntactical Explanation
This is not a sentence. This is a phrase or . A sentence in Arabic is a combination of words, which denotes news, an order or a desire. However, contrary to a sentence a phrase implies none of these meanings.
Grammatical/Lexical meanings
This combination is called a phrase as and together these two words constitute as of phrase or .
This called as
is preposition with several meanings due context, ?upon? is selected.
. This word?s measure/ as used is . However, Wright?s points out that it is actually , it?s meaning that should be added to the root taking this form should be ?to flee or to runway?. This is a substantive or verbal noun. Lane points out that there were three readings of this word. Beside this one other two being and final as . The final form was a reading of prophet himself. However due to unknown reasons first two were adopted. Its root is meaning ?he became familiar, socialable, companionable, friendly, or amicable?. A derived substantive noun from these root meanings should mean, as ?social harmony? which will depict all these concepts.
Traditionally, it is considered as proper noun and name of the tribe of Prophet. But a proper noun is debarred from taking a Tenween. Hence it can?t be a proper name and name of a tribe. It is a common noun. It is from root at measure of , root meaning is ?he collected from here and there?. Additionally, measure/scale which is diminutive which when used as substantive adds meanings of ?a little?. If we combine these two meanings it would meaning ?a collection from a little and a little there or ? a collection from multiple sources?.
Surah 1062
Their abandonment of Social practice led to a nomadic way of life during the rough weathers.
Syntactical Explanation
This is nominal sentence.This is the subject or as well it is a phrase or .
This the predicate of sentence or
Grammatical/Lexical Explanation
Explained above, plus suffixed 3rd person plural noun meaning ?them?.
A verbal noun from root at the measure called a noun of kind adding meaning of ?manner, mode or way of verb?, to root meaning which is ?lead a nomadic life?. There are various other meninges of this root but due contextual meanings of previous verse this meaning is chosen.
A definite noun from root commonly used for winter. But also signifies ?dearth, drought?.
Waw a conjunct followed by a definite noun from root , commonly used for ?summer? or hot weather.
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Surah 1063Therefore, lest get excited to have mastery in it, this is the nobility.
Syntactic Explanation
This is a verbal sentence.Grammatical/Lexical Explanation
Fa is a particle meaning ?therefore, then? follows by ?lam? of imperative followed imperfect plural verb from root , usually mean ?he worshiped? but this meaning is only used if it is referring to a god. Since, context and other concepts elsewhere suggest worship is not the purpose of creation of humans, as well word Allah itself means ?One who doesn?t engage in worship? meaning of ?excited? is chosen.
It is common noun from root ?Ra Ba Ba?, has various meanings ?to have command, authority etc.?
It a pronoun or determiner meaning ?this and that?
A definite noun from root with several meanings but due context chosen ?nobility?. Additionally, these two words together form a compound phrase called pointing towards act of ?mastering social practice or intercourse?.
Surah 1064
Which shall bring intelligence and prudence, so long desired; as well peace and security to them, when in fear.
Syntactical Explanation This is a nominal sentence.
Grammatical/Lexical Explanation
Singular relative noun meaning ?he who, that?
V ? 3rd person masculine singular (form IV) perfect verb from root ?supplying with means of sustenance?, Followed by 3rd person plural noun.
A preposition with several meanings here ?so long?
a noun from root literally meaning ?he was hungry? however due to context in relation to meanings of previous word as means of sustenance used ?devoid of these, instead of hungry?.
? waw? a conjunct meaning ?as well, and?
V ? 3rd person masculine singular (form IV) perfect verb from root ? he became tranquil in heart and mind?, followed by 3rd person pronoun.
A preposition with various meanings here ?in?.
A noun from root ?he feared?.
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peace all,
I have put this member's translations side by side for easier comparison
2012
After resorting, getting accustom and familiar with great collection.
Their familiarity with it shall help to endure patiently through the seasons of dearth and abundance.
Therefore, let they be bondsman of Rabb, this is the nobility.
One who provides them with means of sustenance, while devoid of these; as well provides them with tranquility of mind and heart in fear.2018
Upon abandonment of social practice, from a collection based upon multiple sources.
Their abandonment of Social practice led to a nomadic way of life during the rough weathers.
Therefore, lest get excited to have mastery in it, this is the nobility.
Which shall bring intelligence and prudence, so long desired; as well peace and security to them, when in fear.I did this so people can more easily see the wild variation. In my view, not only are the translations gibberish nonsense, the significant variance shows admission that the methodology was poor to begin with. So where is the evidence to suggest the methodology now is much better? I don't give credibility to these translations.
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Linguist D. A. Wilkins (1972) has the famous line "Without grammar very little can be conveyed, without vocabulary nothing can be conveyed."
Without grammar very little can be understood.
Syntactical Explanation
This is not a sentence. This is a phrase or . A sentence in Arabic is a combination of words, which denotes news, an order or a desire. However, contrary to a sentence a phrase implies none of these meanings.
These are two phrases; Prepositional Phrase coupled with Possessive Phrase. Prefixed Preposition is used for specification, to indicate exclusivity; and for explanation.
Its Object Noun is Verbal Noun. The most important characteristic of Verbal Noun is its verbal quality. This verbal quality gives the Masdar the ability to govern other words as its subject and object, just as a verb can govern a subject and object. As a rule, the verb governs its subject in the nominative state and governs its object in the accusative state. The rule of Masdar is that most often it governs its subject as the Mudhaf - First noun of Construct governs its Mudhaf alahi - Second noun of Possessive Phrase, meaning the subject will be genitive. The Masdar - Verbal Noun governs its object in the accusative, most often.
Verbal Noun, which is of Form-IV, stems from Root . It leads to the perception of merger of things, coalescence - to merge into a single body, rendering people a homogeneous fraternity.
Form-IV is Causative - Causing someone or something to perform the action of Measure I.
The second proper noun of the possessive phrase is the subject of verbal noun.The action that had been taken for rendering the Tribe of Quraish a well established fraternity is elided. The elided clause is understood to be relating to what is desired in the apodosis clause. It is about the House. The referred House had brought them into prominence and affluence.
They were asked to reciprocate and be allegiant to the Sustainer Lord of the House.
To cause the coalescence, harmony, solidification, popularity of the Tribe of Quraish;
Their harmonized state has granted them the control over journey - trade route of Winter and the Summer;
Therefore, they should show subjection/subservience/allegiance to the Sustainer Lord of this House;
The Lord Who fed them in the days of scarcity and had secured them from fear of instability.
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peace all,
I have put this member's translations side by side for easier comparison
2012
After resorting, getting accustom and familiar with great collection.
Their familiarity with it shall help to endure patiently through the seasons of dearth and abundance.
Therefore, let they be bondsman of Rabb, this is the nobility.
One who provides them with means of sustenance, while devoid of these; as well provides them with tranquility of mind and heart in fear.2018
Upon abandonment of social practice, from a collection based upon multiple sources.
Their abandonment of Social practice led to a nomadic way of life during the rough weathers.
Therefore, lest get excited to have mastery in it, this is the nobility.
Which shall bring intelligence and prudence, so long desired; as well peace and security to them, when in fear.I did this so people can more easily see the wild variation. In my view, not only are the translations gibberish nonsense, the significant variance shows admission that the methodology was poor to begin with. So where is the evidence to suggest the methodology now is much better? I don't give credibility to these translations.
Wakas, thanks for your efforts. I already posted under old translation, in order to show evolution of my understanding and thoughts with time and deeper understanding of language over time. It will continue to appear gibberish as long approached with per-concieved notions.
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Linguist D. A. Wilkins (1972) has the famous line "Without grammar very little can be conveyed, without vocabulary nothing can be conveyed."
Without grammar very little can be understood.
These are two phrases; Prepositional Phrase coupled with Possessive Phrase. Prefixed Preposition is used for specification, to indicate exclusivity; and for explanation.
Its Object Noun is Verbal Noun. The most important characteristic of Verbal Noun is its verbal quality. This verbal quality gives the Masdar the ability to govern other words as its subject and object, just as a verb can govern a subject and object. As a rule, the verb governs its subject in the nominative state and governs its object in the accusative state. The rule of Masdar is that most often it governs its subject as the Mudhaf - First noun of Construct governs its Mudhaf alahi - Second noun of Possessive Phrase, meaning the subject will be genitive. The Masdar - Verbal Noun governs its object in the accusative, most often.
Verbal Noun, which is of Form-IV, stems from Root . It leads to the perception of merger of things, coalescence - to merge into a single body, rendering people a homogeneous fraternity.
Form-IV is Causative - Causing someone or something to perform the action of Measure I.
The second proper noun of the possessive phrase is the subject of verbal noun.The action that had been taken for rendering the Tribe of Quraish a well established fraternity is elided. The elided clause is understood to be relating to what is desired in the apodosis clause. It is about the House. The referred House had brought them into prominence and affluence.
They were asked to reciprocate and be allegiant to the Sustainer Lord of the House.
To cause the coalescence, harmony, solidification, popularity of the Tribe of Quraish;
Their harmonized state has granted them the control over journey - trade route of Winter and the Summer;
Therefore, they should show subjection/subservience/allegiance to the Sustainer Lord of this House;
The Lord Who fed them in the days of scarcity and had secured them from fear of instability.
Thanks Mazhar for posting this, it might help me to understand how come traditionalist could remain blinded despite know of the language?
Care to answer logical questions at the beginning of the post? May be just try first the last one. How come now tribe by the name of Quraish exists anymore in the land of Mekka or any whereas in Arabian peninsula close to it?
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Traditionally, it is considered as proper noun and name of the tribe of Prophet. But a proper noun is debarred from taking a Tenween
Please study a little more. You might find Tanween on some other Proper Nouns in Qur'aan.
We as students should not pass verdicts, this can mislead others who are not aware of Arabic.
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Thanks Mazhar for posting this, it might help me to understand how come traditionalist could remain blinded despite know of the language?
Care to answer logical questions at the beginning of the post? May be just try first the last one. How come now tribe by the name of Quraish exists anymore in the land of Mekka or any whereas in Arabian peninsula close to it?
Have you ever given a thought to the pedagogy of learning Qur'aan as is told in Qur'aan itself? Can you point out to me a single book in the world that also tells you how to understand the book in hand?
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Thanks Mazhar for posting this, it might help me to understand how come traditionalist could remain blinded despite know of the language?
Care to answer logical questions at the beginning of the post? May be just try first the last one. How come now tribe by the name of Quraish exists anymore in the land of Mekka or any whereas in Arabian peninsula close to it?
No need to tax mind as to what traditionalists and so called modernists said.
Just first learn How to Read a Book; particularly how to read a great book. Majority of the earlier translators were not even aware how books are read and understood, but yet surprisingly embarked upon publishing translations. Majority of them even did not bother to revisit the source text, but copied from earlier translations; Free Minds translation included.
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No need to tax mind as to what traditionalists and so called modernists said.
Just first learn How to Read a Book; particularly how to read a great book. Majority of the earlier translators were not even aware how books are read and understood, but yet surprisingly embarked upon publishing translations. Majority of them even did not bother to revisit the source text, but copied from earlier translations; Free Minds translation included.
Mazhar this statement of yours is an Oxymoron. You blame old translators yet your own translation just glorifies the same translation. It is worse than them as you keep supporting it with linguistic rules. I find these efforts pathetic and flat out dishonest. Because these are utmost deception for common folks, who have no knowledge of language and likely will never have it in their life times.
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Mazhar this statement of yours is an Oxymoron. You blame old translators yet your own translation just glorifies the same translation. It is worse than them as you keep supporting it with linguistic rules. I find these efforts pathetic and flat out dishonest. Because these are utmost deception for common folks, who have no knowledge of language and likely will never have it in their life times.
But you should first try to rebut my work by applying any academic device. One adopts this type of attitude when he has no logical stand to negate the work.
I have given detailed morphological and syntactic analysis which you cannot deny since you have started reading grammar.
But I think you even did not think that the whole Chapter is just one sentence; neither tried to determine what type of sentence is this. Nor you seem to have kept in mind the background information which is basic rule of studying a book.
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But you should first try to rebut my work by applying any academic device. One adopts this type of attitude when he has no logical stand to negate the work.
I have given detailed morphological and syntactic analysis which you cannot deny since you have started reading grammar.
But I think you even did not think that the whole Chapter is just one sentence; neither tried to determine what type of sentence is this. Nor you seem to have kept in mind the background information which is basic rule of studying a book.
I am giving you my rebuttal with explanation. I don't expect you to accept mine. I am rejecting mine held believes based upon rules of language. I am presenting my such understanding with rules used. I am also open to change and reject my own previous understanding of same chapters as my understanding of language increases. However, I don't find it to be the case in your translation. It is exactly the same as traditional translation with rules applied that no one else understands. So you have no reasons to criticize traditional translators, since you are glorifying them by falsely proving it correct based upon language rules, applied incorrectly by taking advantage general unfamiliarity with language its rules.
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I am giving you my rebuttal with explanation. I don't expect you to accept mine. I am rejecting mine held believes based upon rules of language. I am presenting my such understanding with rules used. I am also open to change and reject my own previous understanding of same chapters as my understanding of language increases. However, I don't find it to be the case in your translation. It is exactly the same as traditional translation with rules applied that no one else understands. So you have no reasons to criticize traditional translators, since you are glorifying them by falsely proving it correct based upon language rules, applied incorrectly by taking advantage general unfamiliarity with language its rules.
Again you have not rebutted a single point on my post about which you earlier said
Thanks Mazhar for posting this, it might help me to understand how come traditionalist could remain blinded despite know of the language?
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The whole translation of Sura Quraish presented with its linguistic explanation is rebuttal to all traditional accounts including one presented by you.
Sometime back you said my rendition was contrary to traditional.
Just read your own with open mind to see how meaningless is your whole paragraph
Surah 1061
After resorting, getting accustom and familiar with great collection.
is preposition with several meanings due context its meanings in sense of has been used which means ?after?.
This is followed by . However, this word?s measure/ as used in current quranic print is not explainable. Although, Lane points out that there were three readings of this word. Beside this one other two being and final as . The final form was a reading of prophet himself. However due to unknown reasons first two were adopted. The first one used currently in Quranic text has no measure to explain it. This is the one in current text. Its root is meaning ?he resorted to it, he became familiar with it or accustomed with it?.
Traditionally, it is considered as proper noun and name of the tribe of Prophet. But a proper noun is debarred from taking a Tenween. Hence it can not be a proper name and name of a tribe. It is a common noun. It is from root at measure of , root meaning is ?he collected? plus measure adds meaning of enhancement ?great?.The bold part is NOT a sentence. It is meaningless utterance, incomplete and vague.
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Based upon feed back for certain concepts and how these can be better interpreted in English editing the translation as follows.
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Upon abandonment of communal practice, from a collection based upon multiple sources.
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Their abandonment of communal practice led to a nomadic way of life during the rough seasons.
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Therefore, lest get excited to have mastery in it, this is the refuge.
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Which shall bring intelligence and prudence, so long desired; as well peace and security to them, when in fear.
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Based upon feed back for certain concepts and how these can be better interpreted in English editing the translation as follows.
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Upon abandonment of communal practice, from a collection based upon multiple sources.
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Their abandonment of communal practice led to a nomadic way of life during the rough seasons.
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Therefore, lest get excited to have mastery in it, this is the refuge.
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Which shall bring intelligence and prudence, so long desired; as well peace and security to them, when in fear.
Does it contain anything meaningful? It is called palaver.
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Does it contain anything meaningful? It is called palaver.
no, because you do not understrand the term community, common unity has no division, in dichotomy is hierarchy which is division into ranks, these two are mutually exclusive, you cannot have hierarchy in community and likewise you cannot have community in hierarchy
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no, because you do not understrand the term community, common unity has no division, in dichotomy is hierarchy which is division into ranks, these two are mutually exclusive, you cannot have hierarchy in community and likewise you cannot have community in hierarchy
By the way do you even know the difference between word and term?
