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Sourah 80 , My own translation

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    IAMOP
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    A refreshingly original way of analysing the quran!

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      Wakas
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      peace/salaam,

      Posting a self-translation is fine.

      I am open to new translations, but only if they are accurate. Thus, before I read such a translation, I would need to know what method/principles have you applied, and can the result be verified/checked - if so, how, etc.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        Mazhar
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        1 -
        opposed and left

        Who? There is an identified person who is the subject of these verbs. There is no verb in the language without a specific doer.

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          loxbox13
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          peace/salaam,

          Posting a self-translation is fine.

          I am open to new translations, but only if they are accurate. Thus, before I read such a translation, I would need to know what method/principles have you applied, and can the result be verified/checked - if so, how, etc.

          salam bro,
          it depends on what appears accurate to some, it doesn't to some others
          exemple, if you're into religion, tasbeeh means repeating continasly the word subhan alllah, but when throwing religion behind, and thinking that the quran is only what makes sense, it become another story

          well, if it makes sense to someone, means it's accurate, therefore , to decide if it's accurate or not, the mind has to be totally opened, and has to understand every people , of how they seee things

          the method I use, is this, I use the word itself, in comapraison with meaning in the verse, the same word used in other verses, and with etymologie , the same word's meaning in other languages, and also, the same word, or similar words used in the dialects of the middle east and north africa , that I decide wich word makes more sense, and to verify, the same word's translation has to fil in every verse, where that word is used

          exemple
          Abassa , I used the sense, ofcourse, it sound like negatif, because of the imperceptive man was not welcomed, therefoer, it could be "frowned" as usually translated, and this word can never be prouved that it is the correct translation
          I used the street dialects of the middle east, for exemple, in egypt, they say BASS , wich means Pause, or Stop , and the letter ? , wich is used in the quran as over, or on, in most words, therefore a bassa can be understood as over stop, or over pause , the words that fits in opposed , as in frensh oppos?

          to verify the result, use the word, exemple, it has to fit, if it doesn't than it is not the correct word

          PS Can you please correct the title, i made a mistake aabout the sourah number, i put 81 , while it is number 80 , thank you

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            loxbox13
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            Who? There is an identified person who is the subject of these verbs. There is no verb in the language without a specific doer.

            WHO . no one , it is only a lessen, the one who opposed was no one, the sourah is a lessen, not a messenger nor a prophet

            if you read this verse that comes right after the event
            11 -
            Nay, but it's a thesis

            it sounds as if it is a negation of the story, saying ( no, this is just a thesis, theory, lesson) , as if the receiver of the message said ME ??? , no, it is just a "tadhkira "
            this is how i understood it after the translation , I might be wrong, but than , I might be correct, anyway, no harm done, one thing is sure, not a prophet the ABASSA , but it is a lesson to all of us

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              Who? There is an identified person who is the subject of these verbs. There is no verb in the language without a specific doer...

              WHO ? . no one , it is only a lessen, the one who opposed was no one, the sourah is a lessen, not a messenger nor a prophet

              if you read this verse that comes right after the event
              11 -
              Nay, but it's a thesis

              it sounds as if it is a negation of the story, saying ( no, this is just a thesis, theory, lesson), as if the receiver of the message said ME ? , no, it is just a "tadhkira "
              this is how i understood it after the translation , I might be wrong, but than , I might be correct, anyway, no harm done, one thing is sure, not a prophet the ABASSA , but it is a lesson to all of us

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                Mazhar
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                WHO . no one , it is only a lessen, the one who opposed was no one, the sourah is a lessen, not a messenger nor a prophet

                One could say like it about a Verbal Noun/Infinitive but to say it about a Verb is strange.

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                  salaam,

                  well, if it makes sense to someone, means it's accurate...

                  ... to that person.

                  This is of little use to others. For example, when an engineer builds an aeroplane they do not build it according to what makes sense to them, they build it according to what has been proven to work, with sufficient evidence behind it.

                  Thanks for discussing your method. The proof is in the tasting of the pudding, as the saying goes.

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                    loxbox13
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                    One could say like it about a Verbal Noun/Infinitive but to say it about a Verb is strange.

                    he opposed and left
                    the he , is unknown, anyone that is in a similar situation, i don't understande what you mean by your remarks, maybe, yu mean i should write , HE OPPOSED AND TURNED AWAY, of HE OPPOSED AND HE LEFT
                    is that what you mean ?

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                      loxbox13
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                      salaam,

                      ... to that person.
                      ...The proof is in the tasting of the pudding, as the saying goes.

                      so what do you see in, my translation ? away from reality, wrong ? or sounds normal
                      i believe there is some words I couldn't find, some I fell 100% sure , others I feel like this "more likely"

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