A creature that the disbelievers will visit
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You mean...this?
To you it makes better sense because it goes with everything else in Khalifa's mission statement. Taken separately it won't make much sense at all. Taken without brackets it'll be more or less the same as a usual translation.
Thank you very much good logic for the warm regard and the friendliness. I regard all forum members as my extended family. Of course, I've never really met or talked to most of my extended family and they could be strangers for all I know but we don't need to bring that up.
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Rashad Khalifa made fool of himself. Many others are following his footprints.
Rashad Khalifa first translated the word as "creature" and as "made of earthly material" and then said this is computer.
The Root of is " ". The basic concept infolded in the Root is gentle, soft, noiseless movement, walking, creeping. Therefore translating this word as "creature" is incorrect since in addition to living beings it also conveys the perception of a created thing.
Creature
(1) living being any living person or animal
(2) created thing somebody or something that has been created.i s exclusively employed for all living organisms which are distinct by moving faculty as against static life, like plants. It is never and cannot be used, etymologically or metaphorically, to describe a non living thing like computer.
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Salaam,
I prefer this translation for verse 2782
2782 At the right time ( in the 22th Century, 2179!) the creature (benderiduioum - not yet invented - ) made from ( GOD s) created from earthly materials (and some materials from Pluto) will declare for them (jews and hindu's) that people are not certain about our revelations.? ( A non-mathematical proof that this scripture is from GOD - ABC code - aided by the help of a benderiduioum)
We have a winner! Good logic, everyone.
Peace good logic,
And the verses you've listed aren't exactly dealing with a change in translation to prove/show a point.
Oh. You mean to say he was off topic? Good logic, indeed.
Good logic, since you are a purveyor of "good logic", feel free to tell us about your studies regarding daaba, what a daaba is according to the Quran. But hey if you've taken khalifa as your main source, that's cool, too .
Good logic would suggest that we study subjects, ourselves (1736).
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I've always like the word dabba. It sounds satisfying when said. But Mazhar just killed my hopes of it having anything to do with anything else. I still think that it could refer to a living, intelligent and independent AI. We will get there one day, just watch. I'll wait.
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Peace Jack.
" The creature" must have something to do with " People not certain about the revelation( last scripture)" Hence " the proof provided with the help of " Dabba". I did say it makes sense to me. Others, they have their own views/opinions...
Like I have my own view about 4141
4141 Those who have rejected the Koran s proof ( From this generation) have also rejected an honourable book.? (A message from your Creator with proof! and they only follow it partially.)Peace.
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I see why there is a need to add = (from this generation).
Whatever this creature is, it isn't my Dell. At least not yet.
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I've always like the word dabba. It sounds satisfying when said. But Mazhar just killed my hopes of it having anything to do with anything else. I still think that it could refer to a living, intelligent and independent AI. We will get there one day, just watch. I'll wait.
Yeah some people like to dabba in preconceptions, numerology fetishes and wild ass red herrings , rather than truth. Yeah, I'll wait too, *op will surely deliver. Maybe if you throw your dell into an ocean, it will turn into a creature.
*metaphorical, you pedant!
Peace Jack.
" The creature" must have something to do with " People not certain about the revelation( last scripture)" Hence " the proof provided with the help of " Dabba". I did say it makes sense to me. Others, they have their own views/opinions...
Like I have my own view about 4141
4141 Those who have rejected the Koran s proof ( From this generation) have also rejected an honourable book.? (A message from your Creator with proof! and they only follow it partially.)Peace.
Peace good logic,
Man you are going on some weird other-worldly tangents (are there creatures there, incidentally?)
You've not addressed why you came to that conclusion other than rk told you so. You are very welcome to your views, just don't expect to be taken seriously by any means.
If you are still hell bent on your view, do tell me what "revelation" encompasses according to the Quran. Is it limited to scripture?
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Peace Jack.
Have a look at http//www.total-loyalty-to-god-alone.co.uk/website-pages/arrogance/
Unfortunately it is not about me ,you or RK. It is a serious matter about believing your ( and my) creator.
What you, I or anyone else thinks is irrelevant.
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Yeah some people like to dabba in preconceptions, numerology fetishes and wild ass red herrings , rather than truth. Yeah, I'll wait too, *op will surely deliver. Maybe if you throw your dell into an ocean, it will turn into a creature.
*metaphorical, you pedant!
It will probably turn into a sow after the baptism and robb me of any joy.
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Peace savage-carrot and Jack.
The relationship between the "dabba" and the proof of the Koran is evident to me from many verses. Some verses are clear like
" Well educated but crazy", " The witness from the children of Israel who witnessed the same in his scripture"...
My understanding of many verses of the Koran are about the " messenger" and the proof he brings with GOD s authorisation. Remember it is GOD who teaches/explains... His book. Here are some examples
2366 ? My proofs ( that the Scripture is from GOD) have been presented to you, but you turned back on your heels
2367 ? You were too arrogant to accept them, and you defiantly disregarded them.?
( What proof? When??)
2368 ? Why do they not reflect on this Scripture? Do they not realise that they ( this 20 th century generation) have received something never attained by their parents??
( Is there a Scientific/Mathematical proof ? How? )
2369 ? Have they failed to recognise their messenger? ( The messenger of the Covenant -0f Malachi Chapter 3- And Of 381.) Is this why they are disregarding him.?
( When did he come? Who was he? A 20th Century messenger?)
2370 ? ( Some of those who have heard of him) Have they decided he is crazy? Indeed he has brought them the truth, but most of them hate the truth.?
You might disagree, let us have your explanation of these verses.I would welcome your argument/proof/discussion.
Peace