Except what Allah wills thee to forget ??
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Arabic Pronouns are DEFINITE. "Ka" denotes only and only a specific person. In translation the personal pronouns needbe translated for the reader of target language. It is not ones thought. What is in the parentheses that is done by me while mentioned him the Messenger obeying the command given to me as believer elsewhere in Qur'aan.
The discourse is about reading and forgetting---issue is about memory----reading the text is apparent-visible on paper---nothing to do with forgetting----its other part is in memory--the hidden aspect of data-text. Purpose of convenience is understood--the discharge of his assignment---when you at other places the objective of gradual revelation and reading---it is for the comfort and to make the job of the Messenger easy.
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Agreed! But who will decide who is that specific person? I say it is reader because if it is referring to messenger it is said so as rasool or nabi.
Ok. But before "Ka" there is another pronoun in the verb that refers to the Subject of Verb. It is "We". What you say whom "We" refers and why?
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Ok. But before "Ka" there is another pronoun in the verb that refers to the Subject of Verb. It is "We". What you say whom "We" refers and why?
Why you always change topic brother?
Anyways, "WE" is not referring to Allah for sure. If you want, I can write an article on WE confirming that it is not referring to Allah, inshaAllah.
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
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Why you always change topic brother?
Anyways, "WE" is not referring to Allah for sure. If you want, I can write an article on WE confirming that it is not referring to Allah, inshaAllah. )
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
mmKhanIt is the same topic----to first learn abc about pronouns before giving judgments. "We" needs to be associated first, since this Pronoun is the Subject of Verb, the Object of verb comes later on. First refer the Pronoun "We"--identifying who they are.
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It is the same topic----to first learn abc about pronouns before giving judgments. "We" needs to be associated first, since this Pronoun is the Subject of Verb, the Object of verb comes later on. First refer the Pronoun "We"--identifying who they are.
Why you repeat it again when I have already given you answer who WE is as per my understanding? hmm
mmKhan
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Why you repeat it again when I have already given you answer who WE is as per my understanding? hmm
mmKhan
You have not given. Pronoun has to be specified. "We" refers to whom? Saying "it is not referring to Allah" does not specify as to who are referred by "We".
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You have not given. Pronoun has to be specified. "We" refers to whom? Saying "it is not referring to Allah" does not specify as to who are referred by "We".
I THINK, "we" may be referring to some authorities who work for Allah. If you have answer please enlighten me but please please please with an aayat.
mmKhan
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I THINK, "we" may be referring to some authorities who work for Allah. If you have answer please enlighten me but please please please with an aayat.
mmKhan
And you earlier said that "Ka" pronoun is for the reader, say mmkhan when he is the reader. In the light of meanings of these two pronouns what you mean is "I think some authories who work for Allah read to me, mmkhan". however you have not yet specified who those authorities are since pronoun is always definite. Similarly your thinking does not tell me what those authorities keep reading to you, mmkhan.
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Thank you all for your comments/suggestions.
Just wanted to share another interpretation that has been suggested
"And Allah created you; then He will take you in death. And among you is he who is reversed to the most decrepit age so that he will not know, after knowledge, a thing. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Competent." 1670
Allah has willed that when a man reaches old age he ".. will not know, after knowledge, a thing."
This is the will of Allah mentioned in 876-7 i.e. Allah will make the addressee read and he will not forget, except what Allah has willed i.e. the phenomenon mentioned in 1670 that when man reaches old age he becomes forgetful.
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This is what is ensured about the Messenger that he will never be in this category.
Know it that Allah the Exalted has created you people. Afterwards , He alienates/segregates you people
However, there is someone living amongst you who is made to regressively return towards the relatively dependent-feeble of the period of life culminating at nethermost-non verbal infancy.
The explanation-reason-effect of regression is that henceforth he might not trace/separate/locate/ acknowledge-retrieve knowledge of something, after having attained knowledge.
It is a certain fact that Allah the Exalted is eternally the all-Knowing, eternally the dominant.Read about Alzheimer.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14947.msg139905#msg139905