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:: Kaana = was, is, became? ::

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    loxbox13
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    Salam brother

    KANA = Is, it indicates the continuous present

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      Wakas
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      peace mmkhan,

      According to corpus, in 1850, "kana" is "3rd person masculine singular perfect verb" meaning an action done/completed, so "was" is appropriate.
      Unless there is something I am not aware of.

      If Iblees was of Jinn then why he got punish when order was given only to malaaika ?

      It could be iblees was of malaika/controlling force and jinn/hidden, i.e. a hidden controlling force. Does it say anywhere in AQ that "malaika" and "jinn" are mutually exclusive terms?

      Even if you use "became" that would imply iblees was malaika previously, i.e. malaika ---> jinn

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        Noon_waalqalami
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        According to corpus, in 1850, "kana" is "3rd person masculine singular perfect verb" meaning an action done/completed, so "was" is appropriate.
        Unless there is something I am not aware of.

        Peace Wakas,

        411 ... indeed The God kna/is Knowing Wise

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          mmkhan
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          Salam brother

          KANA = Is, it indicates the continuous present

          Salaam brother,

          No aayat? hmm surprising! Kaana is maazi not continuous bro.

          mmKhan

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            mmkhan
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            peace mmkhan,

            According to corpus, in 1850, "kana" is "3rd person masculine singular perfect verb" meaning an action done/completed, so "was" is appropriate.
            Unless there is something I am not aware of.

            Peace Wakas,

            If so, it does not fit all instances of Kaana used in AlQuraan. Many references already given in my original post, please check.

            It could be iblees was of malaika/controlling force and jinn/hidden, i.e. a hidden controlling force. Does it say anywhere in AQ that "malaika" and "jinn" are mutually exclusive terms?

            Even if you use "became" that would imply iblees was malaika previously, i.e. malaika ---> jinn

            If you notice bro, you cannot use "was" in all instances but you can use "became", malaika are kings derived from malak means king / who holds authority. Malaika are upgraded ones from Jinns. Allah created only Jinn and Naas to serve him.

            May Allah guide us to His true path pr
            mmKhan

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              mmkhan
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              Peace Wakas,

              411 ... indeed The God kna/is Knowing Wise

              Peace Noon,

              You cannot us "IS" in all instances of "Kaana" in AlQuraan, please check the aayaats quoted and the links given to see different translations of the same word. Please check carefully.

              May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
              mmKhan

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                Noon_waalqalami
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                Kaana is maazi not continuous bro.

                mmKhan

                Peace Noon,

                You cannot us "IS" in all instances of "Kaana" in AlQuraan, please check the aayaats quoted and the links given to see different translations of the same word. Please check carefully.

                May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                mmKhan

                Peace mmKhan,

                I did -- it's not like English, need to use context.

                One should never use "was" in 411 ... indeed The God kna/is Knowing Wise

                Perhaps cross-check carefully apply depending on context...

                kna (masculine singular)
                knat (feminine singular)

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                  mmkhan
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                  Peace mmKhan,

                  I did -- it's not like English, need to use context.

                  One should never use "was" in 411 ... indeed The God kna/is Knowing Wise

                  Perhaps cross-check carefully apply depending on context...

                  kna (masculine singular)
                  knat (feminine singular)

                  Peace Noon,

                  I agree with you that it depends on context. Same goes for 411, as per context Allah became knowing judge. There is no word in AlQuraan having two or more meanings, inshaAllah. That is how it guides us to the CORRECT meaning.

                  May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                  mmKhan

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                    loxbox13
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                    Salam brother

                    KANA = Is, it indicates the continuous present

                    read all ayahs, where the word KANA is ,
                    if KANA is past, than allah was forgiving, but he never told us if he is forgiving, or in the futur he will stay forgivin
                    there is the word KANA that speaks about the future , what do you say about it ?
                    294

                    people are still applying the rules of arabic grammar and iirab, made up by the enemies of islam in beirut , mister wakas still takes the rules of the quran as a perfect as the quran itself
                    even the dictiannary of arabic language is called MAAJAM , meaning, if you use the rules of arabic language, you will read the quran in a corrupted way, a crooked quran, understanding it backward, just as those people who made up the rules want

                    KANA is continuous present, I KNOW THAT IN ARABIC LANGUAGE , it is strictlly past, if it is the case, that ALLAH WAS, only , ALLAH HIMSELF BECOMES PAST , GONE

                    About IBLEES / JINN kana, it simply means that IBLEES is from your genes , that makes your intelligence / Genius , Ibliss = Oblivious = forgetfullness, it(s not beign, but a state of mind in the human beigns , just as chaitan = chicanery = cheating etc..

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                      mmkhan
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                      read all ayahs, where the word KANA is ,
                      if KANA is past, than allah was forgiving, but he never told us if he is forgiving, or in the futur he will stay forgivin
                      there is the word KANA that speaks about the future , what do you say about it ?
                      294

                      people are still applying the rules of arabic grammar and iirab, made up by the enemies of islam in beirut , mister wakas still takes the rules of the quran as a perfect as the quran itself
                      even the dictiannary of arabic language is called MAAJAM , meaning, if you use the rules of arabic language, you will read the quran in a corrupted way, a crooked quran, understanding it backward, just as those people who made up the rules want

                      KANA is continuous present, I KNOW THAT IN ARABIC LANGUAGE , it is strictlly past, if it is the case, that ALLAH WAS, only , ALLAH HIMSELF BECOMES PAST , GONE

                      About IBLEES / JINN kana, it simply means that IBLEES is from your genes , that makes your intelligence / Genius , Ibliss = Oblivious = forgetfullness, it(s not beign, but a state of mind in the human beigns , just as chaitan = chicanery = cheating etc..

                      I am sure bro, you did not read my original post on this topic fully. Please check carefully, you will get your answer inshaAllah.

                      mmKhan

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                        Wakas
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                        peace Noon,

                        Peace Wakas,

                        411 ... indeed The God kna/is Knowing Wise

                        Thanks for the verse. After looking into it more, it seems "kana" can indicate the present tense.

                        As a side note, same with "kuntum", sometimes translated as "you are" / "you were".

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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