Shaving head one of the wrong misleading practice in Al-Hajj
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Peace All,
Could anyone kindly explain what is the difference between this two words of similar meaning.
OBSTRUCT
http//tanzil.net/#search/root/%D8%AD%D8%B5%D8%B1
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PREVENT
http//tanzil.net/#search/root/%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%AF
Are both were used in the context of war ? Preceeding ayah of 2 196 which is 2195 mentioned about spending moderately. Hajj means "overcoming the restriction of hunting wildlife by providing livestock supply" to the distribution centre (mahillah)*. Since you are going to spend on HAJJ (Livestock purchase), does it means that if you have limited financial means, get the cheap/lesser amount/smaller livestock - - rather than the expensive/bigger/many livestock ?
- which one is correct ?
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and do not relieved your head from hair (go bald) until your hadiyy reach the livestock distribution center (mahillah)
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and do not relieved your head from the war helmet (war mode) , until your hadiyy reach the livestock distribution center (mahillah) especially during war
- However there is a problem here. Since you are prevented/obstructed by war/thugs, how then hadiyy could reach the distribution center ? hmm (Any hadiyy will be confiscated by the thugs halfway).
- and do not relieved your head from the responsibility of assuring your hadiyy, reach the distribution center (mahillah) whether during war or during peace.
- Means don't take this Hajj things for granted, this is always your responsibility during the hunting restriction months, to provide livestock to the distribution center, irrespective big or small, cheap or expensive hmm
Does Muhalliqeen - means
- A group of bald people enter into Masjidil Haraam, because of no war take place ?*
- A group of people without war helmet (or without war gear/coats) enter into Masjidil Haraam, because of no war take place ?
- A group of head relieved people enter into Masjidil Haraam, because of no war take place ?
Does Muqassireen - means
- A group of shortened hair people - does it means well dress, well cut ? Army usually cut hair short all the time.
- A group of simplified/concise/brief people (simple minded) - what does this mean ?
- A group of people who shortened their salawah or solat ? - if it means shortening prayer, it may contradict the context of 4827 and 4101 because no war no fear and no need to shortened prayer.
- A group of people...any suggestion ?
- Mahillah may also known as Ka'abah as per 595
** Curent Sunni/Shafie Hajj "head shaving" performing sequence is not correct. No livestock supply were involved in Sunni Hajj ritual except dam or penalty. The shaving was done after they went out of the masjid while Prophet vision is that they already shaved/cut hair before entering masjid as implied in verse 4827 ?
(http//tanzil.net/#4827)
Air tickets, travelling and accommodation cost to entertain Saudi monopoly is much-much expensive than the money that can be spent on livestocks supply annually to the unfortunate, to famine suffering country which don't have food supply, even during the halal months. The primary caused of Hajj, a livestock supply to overcome the hunting wildlife restriction, which is to preserve long term food supply for mankind have been wrongfully understood.
What happen to country or community who have no wildlife, no livestock, nothing to eat through out the year (shahral haram or shahral halal)
Peace.
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And you are directed to conclude the Hajj and Uemraa, for which ever you had come in reverence for Allah the Exalted.
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Reading English gramar about prepositional phrases will suffice to clarify you how these are linked.
Thereat, subject to you having been blockaded-denied performing it, you are only required to deliver whatever sacrifice was readily available as accompanying garlanded mammals designated for slaughter.
First is the conditional clause, which will amend the first Imperative injunction. Instead of complete performance of Hajj and Umera, the only obligation is mentioned and that too if there were accompanying mammals designated for slaughter.
The Verb, regarding restrained-blockaded from performing Hajja and Umera for which they had come to Mecca, is Passive Form-IV. The doer is not mentioned in such verbs. Entry into City is obviously not allowed by the controllers of City--these days we cannot vist without valid visa.Is there any scence of "war, battle" visible? Do you see an army in the world marching towards a city having with them garlanded mammals, simultaneously wearing helmets and armour on their body?
Next line next time.
People arrive at the boundaries of a city. If it is a walled city, people are obstructed entry at its gates. If it is open city, people are restrained at outer checkposts. denotes causing somebody restricted-blockaded from doing what he intended to perform. It signifies permission not granted for entry into the city. There is nothing of war/battle scene in such situations.
We will see in next lines, that it is a temporary phase for a duration of time, and later they might be given permission for entry.
And you people should not remove hair of your heads for such time that the sacrificial mammal might reach the destined point-consumed-distributed.
It is an Imperfect Verb, second person; plural; masculine; Waw subject pronoun in nominative state; and its Mood is Jussive by Prohibitive Particle. This is telling them that "you should not do that act denoted by the verbal noun of this verb". Its Verbal Noun is -which signifies removal of hair and a state accruing after having removed the hair. This act is restricted by describing its object -a Possessive Phrase where first noun is in accusative case as direct object of Verb. This restricts the act of removal of hair on heads.
How long this should not be done?
The Mood of Verb is Subjunctive. And its Subject is in nominative case. denotes time estimate. The aforesaid act should not be done for such time duration so that the Garlanded Sacrificial male mammal might reach-cross over to "his appointed destiny"--place and purpose of sacrifice-given to poor.
It is normal in law that a provision is added for such situations where the desired act cannot be performed for certain reasons. These are called exemption clauses. There can be reason where one might not be able to wait for a duration, or complying doing the intended act. There may be a situation necessitating immediate hair cut or it might be irksome for some to get the shaving of hair.
However, for reason of someone being in sick state, or is itched-irritated by some part of his head cannot wait adhering to it, thereby for avoiding the stated course an absolver is due upon him of choice from fasting, or to gift something to needy, or do any good act.
This is an inverted nominal sentence where is the Subject of sentence and a prepositional phrase relates to the Predicate.
Subject to and when you have been afforded security-permission for entry,
This is the conditional clause. People who are restrained entry, can afterwards get the promise of security allowing entry.
thereat, if some one wished to avail the benefit of Uem'raa visit prolonging towards Hajj, he shall sacrifice what is conveniently available to him.
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Peace All,
Could anyone kindly explain what is the difference between this two words of similar meaning.
OBSTRUCT
http//tanzil.net/#search/root/%D8%AD%D8%B5%D8%B1
vs
PREVENT
http//tanzil.net/#search/root/%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%AF
Are both were used in the context of war ? Preceeding ayah of 2 196 which is 2195 mentioned about spending moderately. Hajj means "overcoming the restriction of hunting wildlife by providing livestock supply" to the distribution centre (mahillah)*. Since you are going to spend on HAJJ (Livestock purchase), does it means that if you have limited financial means, get the cheap/lesser amount/smaller livestock - - rather than the expensive/bigger/many livestock ?
- which one is correct ?
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and do not relieved your head from hair (go bald) until your hadiyy reach the livestock distribution center (mahillah)
-
and do not relieved your head from the war helmet (war mode) , until your hadiyy reach the livestock distribution center (mahillah) especially during war
- However there is a problem here. Since you are prevented/obstructed by war/thugs, how then hadiyy could reach the distribution center ? hmm (Any hadiyy will be confiscated by the thugs halfway).
- and do not relieved your head from the responsibility of assuring your hadiyy, reach the distribution center (mahillah) whether during war or during peace.
- Means don't take this Hajj things for granted, this is always your responsibility during the hunting restriction months, to provide livestock to the distribution center, irrespective big or small, cheap or expensive hmm
Does Muhalliqeen - means
- A group of bald people enter into Masjidil Haraam, because of no war take place ?*
- A group of people without war helmet (or without war gear/coats) enter into Masjidil Haraam, because of no war take place ?
- A group of head relieved people enter into Masjidil Haraam, because of no war take place ?
Does Muqassireen - means
- A group of shortened hair people - does it means well dress, well cut ? Army usually cut hair short all the time.
- A group of simplified/concise/brief people (simple minded) - what does this mean ?
- A group of people who shortened their salawah or solat ? - if it means shortening prayer, it may contradict the context of 4827 and 4101 because no war no fear and no need to shortened prayer.
- A group of people...any suggestion ?
- Mahillah may also known as Ka'abah as per 595
** Curent Sunni/Shafie Hajj "head shaving" performing sequence is not correct. No livestock supply were involved in Sunni Hajj ritual except dam or penalty. The shaving was done after they went out of the masjid while Prophet vision is that they already shaved/cut hair before entering masjid as implied in verse 4827 ?
(http//tanzil.net/#4827)
Air tickets, travelling and accommodation cost to entertain Saudi monopoly is much-much expensive than the money that can be spent on livestocks supply annually to the unfortunate, to famine suffering country which don't have food supply, even during the halal months. The primary caused of Hajj, a livestock supply to overcome the hunting wildlife restriction, which is to preserve long term food supply for mankind have been wrongfully understood.
What happen to country or community who have no wildlife, no livestock, nothing to eat through out the year (shahral haram or shahral halal)
Peace.
Salam Ashraf ,
I will come back to you inchallah about this.
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Salam Wakas ,
As per the situation the believers were in according to the verse we are studying ( 2/196) , its claire that Al-Hady / Gift needs a force /power / work so to reach its place , so the command in ( 2/196) is to not "Halk Rass " mean "do not cover your head" , why ? because Al-Hady / Gift needs to reach it place first , the command "Halk Rass " is conditioned by the reaching of Al-Hady / Gift to its place , to understand why its conditioned and what the command "Halk Rass " mean we need to know what was the situation in wich the belivers where in that time , we will know it from other verse , wich is
48-25 It is they who disbelieved and obstructed you from the Inviolable Masjed , and Gift/Al-Hady debarred from reaching its place . And if it had not been for believing men and believing women, whom ye know not - lest ye should tread them under foot and thus incur guilt for them unknowingly; that Allah might bring into His mercy whom He will - If had been separated We verily had punished those of them who disbelieved with painful punishment.
Do you have any doubt brother that Gift/Al-Hady mentioned in the verse below being detained from reaching its place and that the disbelievers obstructed the prophets and his companion from reaching the Inviolable Masjed that they were in war situation , so it make a perfect sens that the command "La Tahliko Roassakoum " mean "do not uncover your heads" , they were in war situation , uncover it from what ? , surely from war helmet
come on brother , how come there where no war helmets at that time , do you think they were before bronze age or what ? the Quran mention Daoud / David using iron for war purpose centuries before Al-Omyeen do you think they were unaware about this industry ?
harm of one's head doesn't mean headache it mean someone who was hurt-ed in his head in the battle so it's a permission to not fight so in this case the ones who are hurt-ed in their heads will cover it ( taking off the war helmet ) so they will not participate in the battle , in that case they need to pay a ransom for not participating in the battle , you can read that in
2/196 (...) And whoever among you is ill or has hurt in his the head a ransom of fasting or charity or Nask.
Its a clarification i putt it between baguette to explain that the command in 4827 when its says about "shortening " doesn't mean cutting hair shortly as it was explained in religious books and tafasseer and also all english translation i have seen including Corpus Quran http//corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=48&verse=27 ,
"shortening " mean shortening the "Al-salwah
48/27 Allah hath fulfilled the vision for His messenger in very truth. Ye shall indeed enter the Al-Masjed Al-Haram / The inviolable Masjed , if Allah will, in safety , uncovering your head, (mean you will be taking off your war helmet sign of safety) , and shortening ( mean shortening Al-Salwah not cutting hair shortly ) , not fearing. But He knoweth that which ye know not, and hath given you a near victory beforehand.
My respect
Very good brother, as I was reading your understanding, it all became so clear. Thank you!
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nice post and I should say it is the most convincing translation I ever read about this verse.
Very good brother, as I was reading your understanding, it all became so clear. Thank you!
It has potential but failed with
- if prevented, how does the hdy/gift reach its destination?
- seemingly no classical arabic dictionary evidence for raas meaning helmet
- critical question 3
- seemingly no evidence for arab helmets worn at the time
- convoluted answer regarding non-head injury
Alternative
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597976.msg289407;topicseen#msg289407 -
w/salaam AK,
I have personally not seen pictures of Arab warriors with helmets on, nor artefacts of such, but perhaps they did exist, I'm not sure. In any case, it is not a main point.
And please consider what you are saying you claim it is about a hurt of one's head, but what about other body parts, do they not count towards a significant injury, e.g. even if they are severed off?! Further, having a hurt in one's head (even though one is wearing a helmet) you expect them to fast/abstain etc? Please explain the logic.
What is "al salwah"?
Hurting head might be a psychological war trauma, that is when soldiers get mad and do not listen to commands and only want blood, so then they do not fight proper as described in Quran.
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Salam ,
16-81 And Allah has made for you of what He has created shelters, and He has made for you from mountains places of retreat, and He has made for you garments to preserve you from the heat and garments to protect you in you fighting; even thus does He complete His favor upon you, that haply you may submit .
As you can see they were using garment over their bodies to protect them from hurt while they are fighting , so logically they will consider their head to be covered and protected with a ( war helmet ) more then anything else .
with this ayet the understanding of war helmet can be true
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Pl also see carefully what are you saying
If he was hurt how he put the helmet on his head which he can put off?
The only explanation would be war trauma
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Hurting head might be a psychological war trauma, that is when soldiers get mad and do not listen to commands and only want blood, so then they do not fight proper as described in Quran.
Did you read the post above yours and then insert your understanding into the verse to see if it makes sense?
Article http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-2196-critical-thinking.html
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Did you read the post above yours and then insert your understanding into the verse to see if it makes sense?
Article http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-2196-critical-thinking.html
no i did not, i just was thinking that injury and head could mean psychological injury, but i will look at it later, i am now investigating ramadahan/.
