Three times a day for me...and I am sticking with it

Indelwyn

I pray 3 times. I do Sunrise, Sunset (I know Isha is mentioned but to my understanding sunset marks the end of the day, still researching a bit) and Middle /Mid-Day But I will sometimes pray Isha with my husband. He is sunni and does the 5. If he asks me to pray with him, I do. How can praying to God cause an issue, I think you can never pray enough That is for formal prayer, du'a and remembrance, well I have lost count in a day. I stand, bow and prostrate. My prayer has more meaning without the traditional influence. I was actually able to teach my kids very easily. When trying to teach them the Arabic and all the other "rituals" of prayer, they got confused and lost interest. I want them to be able to pray. The Qu'ran makes it so easy a child can worship and develop a wonderful relationship with God.

I found it interesting as I studied how when I was Catholic, their was a HUGE demand on not forgetting the middle of the day prayer. Just in light of all my studies it really struck a cord of interest.

Bender

Peace everyone,

I have seen this discussed numerous times on the board, which is why I am not asking a question, but making a statement. After reading and studying, comparing and pondering, I am happy to say that I believe that we are to make 3 prayers daily. The two ends of the day are mentioned, so when I read wusta/middle/central, it stands out as more of a time/placement to me. Thanks to those of you who provided links on the "wusta" issue.

Although I haven't asked a question, this is very open to discussion. I didn't want to re-open any old threads on this issue, as some have been abandoned for a while.

Salaam,

Never say "I am sticking with it".

First I was sure it were 5, then I was sure it were 3, now I am sure it's 2
Maybe tomorrow I will be sure that it's 4 or again 5.
Just keep on studying and correcting yourself then inshaAllah it doesn't matter how many times.

Salaam,
Bender

unknownuser

Salaam,

Never say "I am sticking with it".

First I was sure it were 5, then I was sure it were 3, now I am sure it's 2
Maybe tomorrow I will be sure that it's 4 or again 5.
Just keep on studying and correcting yourself then inshaAllah it doesn't matter how many times.

Salaam,
Bender

Salaam Bender,

You make a very valid point, and it is noted. Only God knows where we are headed and what we will do and what will be revealed to us. Thanks for the reminder. )

unknownuser

It's good. Many of the things I do or believe are things I haven't even formulated to myself, much less anyone else. I suppose I should have expected your follow-up question to my first post in this thread. Perhaps I actually did, subconsciously, perhaps actually wanting to be "put on the spot" as it were.

Regardless, I hope my explanation makes some manner of sense, even if you happen to disagree.

It did make sense, actually. When I read Wakas' post from another thread about the meaning for al-wusta being "central" I actually put it together that way, that what is most important is that are prayers are the "central" part of our worship and then everything else goes from there. So I do understand your explanation a bit. I also like how you understand it to mean "without distraction." It really does make sense.

Peace,

Amina

unknownuser

I pray 3 times. I do Sunrise, Sunset (I know Isha is mentioned but to my understanding sunset marks the end of the day, still researching a bit) and Middle /Mid-Day But I will sometimes pray Isha with my husband. He is sunni and does the 5. If he asks me to pray with him, I do. How can praying to God cause an issue, I think you can never pray enough That is for formal prayer, du'a and remembrance, well I have lost count in a day. I stand, bow and prostrate. My prayer has more meaning without the traditional influence. I was actually able to teach my kids very easily. When trying to teach them the Arabic and all the other "rituals" of prayer, they got confused and lost interest. I want them to be able to pray. The Qu'ran makes it so easy a child can worship and develop a wonderful relationship with God.

I found it interesting as I studied how when I was Catholic, their was a HUGE demand on not forgetting the middle of the day prayer. Just in light of all my studies it really struck a cord of interest.

I still am not sure of how to pray...I still recite Al-Fatiha at the beginning, say key phrases from the Qu'ran during bowing and prostration, and make dua. It's not perfect, and I have to admit that I do it simply because I don't want to miss the prayers. Not that I don't enjoy praying, but praying this way is new to me and I am still figuring it out. Also, when I am at home I have to be sure that I don't draw attention from my husband. I don't want the argument or ridicule that will come with it. Call me scaredy cat ;D

Peace,

Amina

Wakas

peace Amina,

I pray the fajr prayer before dawn, the middle prayer in accordance with the time given for the noon prayer, and then I pray the night prayer in accordance with the time given for isha.

Can you be a bit more specific?

Do you have any insight on this matter, especially the times for prayer? I would be very interested to hear about that!

From my knowledge and experience of discussion, I have found that no-one who believes in 5-a-day has been able to come up with times, based on Quran. If they do, they adopt a 'pick & choose' approach, i.e. they cherry-pick the times that matches their 5-a-day pre-conceived notion. I do not consider this credible.
Those who adopt a 3-a-day approach, they have some variation on when the "middle" one is, and the timing for it. Again, to me, the result is not credible.

unknownuser

peace Amina,

Can you be a bit more specific?

From my knowledge and experience of discussion, I have found that no-one who believes in 5-a-day has been able to come up with times, based on Quran. If they do, they adopt a 'pick & choose' approach, i.e. they cherry-pick the times that matches their 5-a-day pre-conceived notion. I do not consider this credible.
Those who adopt a 3-a-day approach, they have some variation on when the "middle" one is, and the timing for it. Again, to me, the result is not credible.

I am afraid I don't understand what you are asking here...

Wakas

I pray the fajr prayer before dawn, the middle prayer in accordance with the time given for the noon prayer, and then I pray the night prayer in accordance with the time given for isha.

I meant what specifically is the "time given for the noon prayer" and "time given for isha".

loli

Salam,

I myself believe that there should be 3 time a day..

Salat Fajar - 2458 - the name itself shows the timing of the solat - at twilight/sun rise
Al-Salat Al-Wusta - description in 2238, and timing in 1778; sinking of the sun till the darkness of the night(in otherwords sun set)
Salat Isya -2458 - the name itself shows the timing of the solat - at night

My opinion is that 'Wusta' is the description of the solat since it is sandwich between two other solats in a day.

Some say that there is Salat Isya timing is described in 1778, however i cant accept it since 2458 shows that 3 times of nakedness, and the time of sinking of the sun till darkness of the night is too early for the little ones to ask for permission to enter our room.

This also fits with 11114 timing, "Two ends of the day(Fajar and Wusta) and early portion of the night(Isya)

However.. thats just me....

unknownuser

I meant what specifically is the "time given for the noon prayer" and "time given for isha".

Well, I just go with the times that are given for the daily prayers. For instance, right now dhuhr begins at 125 in the afternoon, and isha begins a little after 900 P.M.