Lesson from the Cow-in memory of HR
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I'm new to this forum. I have read almost all the material on free-minds.org. I have a suggestion for a mini-article which would be useful when presenting evidence from the Quran itself in support of Quran Alone.
The longest surah in the Book is The Cow. It takes its name from a story about Moses and his people. They were asked by God, through Moses, to kill a cow. No details about the cow were given. Instead of simply killing any cow, the Jews continuously asked Moses to keep going back to God to ask for more details about the cow. Eventually they killed a cow.
The lesson from this story is that God does not wish to complicate our lives unnecessarily and if he does not give details about something then that is intentional. The Jews insisted on more and more details which God did not specify or require. This only complicated their own lives unnecessarily. The longest surah in the Quran takes its name from this story. It's a critical lesson for us.
The same lesson can be used when talking to Traditionalists who say that there are certain issues which the Quran does not spell out in detail and that we therefore need to go to hadith in order to extract those details. In other words WE NEED MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT GOD HAS GIVEN US!
God is very detailed when He needs to be, and very vague when He needs to be. He doesn't need us to remind Him and prompt Him to give us more detail.
Just a thought,
HR
And recall history of point in time when Ms had said to his people
"Allah the Exalted has commanded you people that you may sacrifice any cow".
They-the elite reacted saying, "Are you deliberately treating us in contemptuous ridicule?"
He said, "I seek refuge of Allah the Exalted that I might be a superficial vain talker amongst the shallow emotionalists".This Episode is one of the most important ones, its importance can be gauged from the fact pointed out by HR who is away since 2004 from the forum, that it is chosen as the title of almost 10% volume of Grand Qur'aan.
This Eposode exposes the psychology of "impossible persons", and techniques of Psychological Manipulators. And that Cow which was ultimately sacrificed can make people understand the meanings and concept of Islam as a living reality. What a Cow was that!
Particular people referred by HR in red have actually made many many people as their "milking cows" who do not have a single match with that Cow which was sacrificed.
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Sorry, what is HR?
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Thanx )
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And recall history of point in time when Ms had said to his people
"Allah the Exalted has commanded you people that you may sacrifice any cow".
They-the elite reacted saying, "Are you deliberately treating us in contemptuous ridicule?"
He said, "I seek refuge of Allah the Exalted that I might be a superficial vain talker amongst the shallow emotionalists".This Episode is one of the most important ones, its importance can be gauged from the fact pointed out by HR who is away since 2004 from the forum, that it is chosen as the title of almost 10% volume of Grand Qur'aan.
This Eposode exposes the psychology of "impossible persons", and techniques of Psychological Manipulators. And that Cow which was ultimately sacrificed can make people understand the meanings and concept of Islam as a living reality. What a Cow was that!
Particular people referred by HR in red have actually made many many people as their "milking cows" who do not have a single match with that Cow which was sacrificed.
I do think everything in the quran is teaching us something whereby we can improve our character, rather then simply accepting everything given to us by - anybody we should quistion what doesn't seem right.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13482.msg113859#msg113859
peace
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And recall history of point in time when Ms had said to his people
"Allah the Exalted has commanded you people that you may sacrifice any cow".
They-the elite reacted saying, "Are you deliberately treating us in contemptuous ridicule?"
He said, "I seek refuge of Allah the Exalted that I might be a superficial vain talker amongst the shallow emotionalists".This Episode is one of the most important ones, its importance can be gauged from the fact pointed out by HR who is away since 2004 from the forum, that it is chosen as the title of almost 10% volume of Grand Qur'aan.
This Eposode exposes the psychology of "impossible persons", and techniques of Psychological Manipulators. And that Cow which was ultimately sacrificed can make people understand the meanings and concept of Islam as a living reality. What a Cow was that!
Particular people referred by HR in red have actually made many many people as their "milking cows" who do not have a single match with that Cow which was sacrificed.
The Cow sacrifice is the Episode wherein Arabic Root " " is used for the first time in Qur'aan. This Root is the source of world-over famous word http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.071/1.%20Musallamatun%20Seen%20Laam%20Meem/11.gif. Perhaps, the Arabic word Islam stands in the list of top-words which are in the vocabulary of maximum number of people speaking different languages. And perhaps, this is one word which is the craving of Psychological Manipulators to influence change the perception of people and to project it as of perplexingly confusing import.
It is interesting, and perhaps the most meaningful rebuke in the timeline for such Psychological Manipulators that it is chosen to appear first time in Qur'aan in the Episode "Sacrifice of an ordinary cow" wherein is the picturesque depiction of psyche of those days Psychological Manipulators-in fact Dark Triad personalities, and how they influence others.The Episode narrates that Ms alai'his'slaam had told them the command of Allah the Exalted to sacrifice an ordinary cow. A command, the simplest to comprehend for carrying it out. No specialties, no delicacies, and no intricacies in it. They reacted narcissistically, "Are you deliberately treating us in contemptuous ridicule?". Ms alai'his'slaam gave them a sharp answer, "I seek refuge of Allah the Exalted that I might be amongst the shallow emotionalists"
They did not comply with the command by sacrificing any cow. Rather, they took a turn to veil the sharp answer hinting and exposing the nature of their earlier response. They adopted "Diversion" technique to retain influence upon people present there. They said to Ms , "You call upon your Sustainer Lord for us that He should distinctly and explicitly explain for us as to what that intended to be sacrificed cow is."
They are twisting and portraying otherwise a simple and plain worded injunction as if it were a complex and complicated issue to comply with. Ms alai'his'slaam remained cool and composed, and got them the answer, "He the Exalted says that it is a cow having characteristic feature neither of one outliving the age, nor that of early age. She is in the middle of these two extremities-middle aged. Your query having been answered, therefore, now do that which you are being commanded"
This time again the description is one of simplest; quickly and visibly understandable. No rational being can dispute it as not vividly comprehendible, or confusing. They adopted the technique of "selective inattention". They selectively ignored the last words, and said to Ms , "You call upon your Sustainer Lord for us that He should distinctly and explicitly explain for us as to what is the colour of that cow."
Ms alai'his'slaam remained cool and composed, and got them the answer, "He the Exalted says that it is a bright dark yellow cow. Her colour is original-genuine; it pleases the onlookers"
Do you think they might have acted upon the command after having known the colour as per their request? If your guess based on rationality and simple logic is in affirmative, then, I am afraid; you do know the Psychological Manipulators. They have yet another technique of "Feigning confusion". They repeated their first question in exact same words, now feigning confusion. They said to Ms , "You call upon your Sustainer Lord for us that He should distinctly and explicitly explain for us as to what that intended to be sacrificed cow is. Truly, this particular Cow has made us self baffled-perplexingly confused".
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Very good explanation and nice insights.
I also consider the episode of the cow to be very, very important, specially that it appears quite at the beginning of the Qur'an.
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Interesting how we may know many things but very often do not realise their full import. This obssessive or psychotic need for abundance of detail as in this instance is to hide the desire to evade obvious duties. However, it denotes also the kind of personality on which these evaders base their evasion that is, the abundance of people ready to believe only those things where they are freed from the need to act by themselves, without the tutelage of comebody who spells for them absolutely everything, for whom to think by themselves becomes tantamount to disobedience. Having an opinion is ego and all those things we usually hear when we do not comply with any nonsense somebody supposedly authoritative is cited.
Salaam
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Salaam
as always, i have amazing thoughts and hypothesis about the cow story.
the story of the cow shows how people can put light on details while forgetting essential things.
the episode of the sacrifice of the cow is so important that GOD named the second sourate of quran baqara.
If we search for "cow sacrifice" in monotheists religion we find it in zoroastrianismDefinition The taurobolium or bull sacrifice was associated with the cult of Mithra (Mithras) and the Great Mother Cybele. Over time the ritual associated with the bull sacrifice in Mithraism changed. The taurobolium became a type of purification ritual for the devotee who stood in a pit into which the blood from a freshly slaughtered bull dripped all over him.
many similarities with the quran story ? isn't it ?
Cult of Mithra was the religion of roman legions who was mixed into the christianism by constantin in nicee concile.
Another interesting coincidence is the other sourate (el mayida the table) who is also a story that can be found in mithraism
see http//www.websitesonadime.com/ffwic/mithra.htmI already said that i think that Moses is the uncle of Isaa. An evident consequence is that Isaa could have been present during the cow episode related by quran is sourate baqara.
Notice also that tauromachy (spain, france) nowadays is related by some historians to story of mithra.So i think that story od issa is the common ancestor of the story of Mithra and jesus.
I think that the story of the cow can possibly points towards this assumptionI think of course, as usual, that Yeshua bin NUN is the messiah son of the NUN called marie and that Bin is feminine of Ben as etymology says. Only blind people can't see a nun, a pious women, in NUN. Etymology of word NUN confirms the meaning.
He delivered the promised land and fulfilled all the requirements.
He is Issa ibn Meriem, the prophetess of the bible, sister of Moses and Aaron and daughter of imran.Remark El Imran, al baqara, al mayda. are names of 3 of the 5 first names of sourates.
Peace
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Salamun alaikum.
Thanks GODsubmitter, haruf. noshirk. I wish we restrict to the episode in Qur'aan.
Continued from Reply-5 please read in conjunction with that.
Ms alai'his'slaam still remained cool and composed, and got them the answer,
He told them "He the Exalted says that it is a she-cow. Its way of life is symbolized by that she is never yoked that she tills the land to and fro preparing it for cultivation, and she is not yoked with blinders on eyes that she irrigates the crop fields moving circularly. She is kept safe, secure, at peace, healthy tranquility and dynamic balance.
Her characteristic life feature now is that absolutely no deformity is present in it".They said to Musa "It is now that you have come with the exact distinctly explicit fact."
Thereat, being cornered they sacrificed her in a state that they had no wish-intention doing it.
After all shilly-shallying, exhausted and feeling cornered they still applied another technique of Psychological Manipulators, called "Projecting the blame" i.e. blaming other in subtle, hard to detect way. They have subtly blamed Ms alai'his'slaam that their questions and confusion was because of him, that earlier he was not describing the fact explicitly, and only now he has given them an accurate factual description of cow. Thereby, they sacrificed that Cow. Allah the Exalted exposed them they did it in the circumstantial state while they were not near doing it-had no intention of doing it.
The characteristic feature of that Cow was . It is a feminine Passive Participle made from the Root of word i.e. " " and Verbal Noun/Infinitive "" which signifies making someone safe, secure, free from evils of any kind and affair. The natural effect is that he or she is in state of tranquility and dynamic balance. Kindly read critically, and retain in memory the characteristics features of the life of this Cow, that made her Passive Participle, and resultant effect described by this sentence . The negation particle is for absolute negation-negation of genus which is evident from the accusative case of its Subject Noun . It is a Verbal/Infinitive noun, in Arabic terminology . In Arabic, it is a noun signifying action and state only. The major difference between Verb and Infinitive Noun , in meaning, is that verb signifies a particular time-period, like past, present or future. The Infinitive Noun signifies only the occurrence of a state within the time-period in which it finds mention.
If you remember this Cow with all her qualities and state, you will understand and perceive -the Islam comprehensively in all semantic fields in such vivid manner as you observe the Cow with your eyes. It is as simple and easy to understand as was easy to understand a simple command, "you people sacrifice an ordinary cow". However, if your perception has been influenced causing perplexing confusion about it by the literature/certain encyclopedic articles by Psychological Manipulators, thereby relate the meanings and perception infolded in its Root " " with the disclosed characteristic features of that particular Cow. You will start seeing not as concept, or something abstract, but a Living Reality.
Learned Ibn Faris described the perception inherent in the Root in these words
That the dominant and pervasive perception and meanings infolded in the Root are that of healthy state of exactitude, validity, truth; and absolved causing wellness and tranquility. And therein is no deviation, irregularity, oddity, and abnormality disturbing wellness and tranquility. It portrays a state of peace, safety, tranquility and dynamic balance when the Man is secure from all sorts of things causing damage and disablement of that state. Obviously, it is the unique state and only source-a ladder that could enable the Man to elevate to stability, prosperity, development and all sorts of ascensions.
Arabic, as is well known, is the language based on Roots, three or four consonants placed in a peculiar sequence which signify a specific and exclusive perception and signification. Words, originating from these Roots on various well defined patterns-moulds-structuring frames, retain the original perception infolded in the Root with additional meanings and connotation, shades and colours added by the peculiar pattern-placing of vowels-syllabification, addition of consonants.
The basic meanings of a Root and word do not exhaust when they are used in a different semantic field, relational area, while necessarily retaining the base meanings. This phenomenon is particular to the words which are other than those coined to denote and identify a specific tangible object, or person, i.e. substantive nouns. Actions and gestures, bodily actions or body language, and states have various levels of intensity, depth, magnitude proportionally reflecting the feel and state of heart and mind.
Man is created in such mould that he is but a social being. He has but to interact with the members of his genus. What can be the best and most desirable mode of interaction? Can anybody think of a mode other than denoted by this Root " " and its Verbal Noun which could deserve attain the title of "sublime interaction"? Kindly answer by applying your own intellect, placing aside the biases, prejudices and not following perceptions deceptively inculcated in memory by the Psychological Manipulators in time and space. The best wish and pleasantry a man can present to another man is for him a state of absolute safety, security, tranquility and dynamic balance.To be continued