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Our Way or Allah's Way?

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    mubashir55
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    What does the Qur?an say about dealing with those who insult the blessed Rasool? Patience with dignity. Nowhere Allah says go and destroy properties and lives of those who insult the Messenger.

    Muslims are told to hold fast to their pledges and treaties they sign. They are obligated to provide security to various Embassies. After 911, how many Embassies of Muslim countries were attacked in Europe or US?

    This video was produced by a perverted individual who has the remote control in his hand. All he has to do is to press a button and the Muslims start jumping up and down. Don?t give your power away!! Use this opportunity to educate others about real Islam. Islam does not allow anybody to punish Paul for the crime of Peter.

    This world is a world of test for the Muslims to see if under pressure do they respond their way or Allah?s Way?

    4134 Good and evil are not alike. Repel evil with what is good. Then you will find your erstwhile enemy like a close. affectionate friend
    4135 but only those who are steadfast in patience, only those who are blessed with great righteousness, will attain to such goodness
    4136 Hence, if it should happen that a prompting from Satan stirs thee up , seek refuge with God behold, He alone is all-hearing, all-knowing!

    and last but not the least

    2563 The (true) servants of the All-Merciful are they who move on the earth gently and humbly, and when the ignorant, foolish ones address them (with insolence or vulgarity as befits their ignorance and foolishness), they response with (words of) peace, (without engaging in hostility with them);

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      Zulf
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      Nice post! I agree.

      Also, I'm wondering, in general.. what does 'insult the prophet' really mean? He's not getting insulted! He's dead long ago!

      Saying that the prophet is being insulted is just an excuse and a dishonest/ignorant way of saying that one's own ego is being insulted/hurt since one's identity is perceived as being threatened.

      Let's call a spade a spade. People hide behind an image of the prophet, projecting their own hurt onto him. How ludicrous and useless.

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        unknownuser
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        What does the Qur?an say about dealing with those who insult the blessed Rasool? Patience with dignity. Nowhere Allah says go and destroy properties and lives of those who insult the Messenger.

        Muslims are told to hold fast to their pledges and treaties they sign. They are obligated to provide security to various Embassies. After 911, how many Embassies of Muslim countries were attacked in Europe or US?

        This video was produced by a perverted individual who has the remote control in his hand. All he has to do is to press a button and the Muslims start jumping up and down. Don?t give your power away!! Use this opportunity to educate others about real Islam. Islam does not allow anybody to punish Paul for the crime of Peter.

        This world is a world of test for the Muslims to see if under pressure do they respond their way or Allah?s Way?

        4134 Good and evil are not alike. Repel evil with what is good. Then you will find your erstwhile enemy like a close. affectionate friend
        4135 but only those who are steadfast in patience, only those who are blessed with great righteousness, will attain to such goodness
        4136 Hence, if it should happen that a prompting from Satan stirs thee up , seek refuge with God behold, He alone is all-hearing, all-knowing!

        and last but not the least

        2563 The (true) servants of the All-Merciful are they who move on the earth gently and humbly, and when the ignorant, foolish ones address them (with insolence or vulgarity as befits their ignorance and foolishness), they response with (words of) peace, (without engaging in hostility with them);

        bravo

        That is the result of shirk...worshipping mankind. May Allah have mercy upon them on the day of judgement.

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          We also need to acknowledge the fact that people who are attacking Islam get their ammunition from books of Seerah and Hadith ! Clean them up. Muslims find some material there unsuitable but since they can't seem to explain it, they would rather people shut up under threat of violence.

          I recently read an article by Tawfik Hamid. Attempting to understand why Muslims react to real of perceived insults to the Messenger, he says

          "....Confrontation between Delusions and Reality
          On one hand, many Muslims strongly believe that Mohamed is the best human being in everything and the best role model for mankind {Quran 3321 There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah often}. In some Muslims' minds, these feelings can reach the level of delusions. On the other hand, mainstream Islamic books teach that the Prophet married a child of 6 consummated marriage at 9 years old , used to have sex with 9 wives in one night , had romantic feelings toward the wife of his adopted son and that a Quranic revelation made his son in law divorce his wife so that Mohamed can marry her. Furthermore, authentic Hadith books mentioned that Mohamed killed all the men of some Jewish tribes, took the wife of the Jewish leader to have sex with her after killing her husband , and that he encouraged the killing of a respected old lady called Um-Querfa in an extremely brutal manner because she criticized him.
          Many Muslims feel disgusted of such stories, but they have to suppress their feelings and live in their 'Delusions' that Mohamed is the best role model for the world. The recent film depicted these stories in a way that released the suppressed conscious from its inhibition - and thus created a confrontation between the 'Reality' (as described in authentic Islamic books) and the 'Delusions'. It is known that confronting Delusions with Reality can cause severe agitation. This complex mental phenomenon may explain the aggressive and furious reaction of some Muslims in response to the film. ...."

          In support of his views above, he provides references to Seerah and Hadith Books.

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            We also need to acknowledge the fact that people who are attacking Islam get their ammunition from books of Seerah and Hadith ! Clean them up. Muslims find some material there unsuitable but since they can't seem to explain it, they would rather people shut up under threat of violence.

            I recently read an article by Tawfik Hamid. Attempting to understand why Muslims react to real of perceived insults to the Messenger, he says

            "....Confrontation between Delusions and Reality
            On one hand, many Muslims strongly believe that Mohamed is the best human being in everything and the best role model for mankind {Quran 3321 There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah often}. In some Muslims' minds, these feelings can reach the level of delusions. On the other hand, mainstream Islamic books teach that the Prophet married a child of 6 consummated marriage at 9 years old , used to have sex with 9 wives in one night , had romantic feelings toward the wife of his adopted son and that a Quranic revelation made his son in law divorce his wife so that Mohamed can marry her. Furthermore, authentic Hadith books mentioned that Mohamed killed all the men of some Jewish tribes, took the wife of the Jewish leader to have sex with her after killing her husband , and that he encouraged the killing of a respected old lady called Um-Querfa in an extremely brutal manner because she criticized him.
            Many Muslims feel disgusted of such stories, but they have to suppress their feelings and live in their 'Delusions' that Mohamed is the best role model for the world. The recent film depicted these stories in a way that released the suppressed conscious from its inhibition - and thus created a confrontation between the 'Reality' (as described in authentic Islamic books) and the 'Delusions'. It is known that confronting Delusions with Reality can cause severe agitation. This complex mental phenomenon may explain the aggressive and furious reaction of some Muslims in response to the film. ...."

            In support of his views above, he provides references to Seerah and Hadith Books.

            Wow...I never viewed it like that. It makes total sense, though. Almost like someone having to come to terms with a mental illness like schizophrenia (can you imagine learning that the people you have been talking to aren't real?). Then you factor in that so many people believe and practice the same thing...how is it possible for it to be wrong when everyone else is doing it?

            Thanks for sharing that.

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