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difference jam'a and jum'a

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    mirjamnur
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    Salam
    question about
    42.7
    And thus We have inspired to you an Arabic Quran, so that you may warn the capital town and all around it, and to warn about the Day of Gathering that is inevitable. A group will be in the Paradise, and a group in Hell.
    
    64.9
    The Day when He will gather you; the Day of Gathering; that is the Day of mutual blaming. And whoever believes in God and does good works, He will forgive his sins, and will admit him into estates with rivers flowing beneath them, abiding therein eternally. Such is the great triumph.

    both are written jam'a
    but in sura 62 .9

    O you who believe, if the contact prayer is called to at the gathering day, then you shall hasten towards the remembrance of God, and cease all selling. This is better for you, if only you knew.

    written jum'a with damma and ta marbuta. Anybody can explain me why??
    thank for your help.
    Salam

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      Salam
      question about
      42.7
      And thus We have inspired to you an Arabic Quran, so that you may warn the capital town and all around it, and to warn about the Day of Gathering that is inevitable. A group will be in the Paradise, and a group in Hell.
      
      64.9
      The Day when He will gather you; the Day of Gathering; that is the Day of mutual blaming. And whoever believes in God and does good works, He will forgive his sins, and will admit him into estates with rivers flowing beneath them, abiding therein eternally. Such is the great triumph.

      both are written jam'a
      but in sura 62 .9

      O you who believe, if the contact prayer is called to at the gathering day, then you shall hasten towards the remembrance of God, and cease all selling. This is better for you, if only you knew.

      written jum'a with damma and ta marbuta. Anybody can explain me why??
      thank for your help.
      Salam

      The first are about Judgement Day, God's Day of Gathering which is different to an ordinary day of gathering.

      I'm sure someone will give a better explanation, I can only base that on the English translation but makes sense to me peace

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        Mazhar
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        Salamun alaika,

        The basic perception of the Root of word is

        (

        .

        That, it leads to the perception of cuddling, closeness, compacting, gathering. All words made from this Root will retain the basic meanings whatever might be their structure and form.

        Root is used 129 times in Qur'aan.

        Both the words you have mentioned are primarily Verbal Nouns. And Verbal Noun signifies an act and a state. Verbal Nouns can also be adopted as Proper Nouns by the natives. The difference between both you can see by noticing the Prepositional Phrase in the second case, and to realize that it is a Proper Name for a day of the month.

        The basic perception is inherent therein. Whatever is physical, it has a time reference. What is the Zero time of our Universe? It preceded a physical act. Joining together, compacting of the Sky-gassuous mass that was stretched in seven layers and the Earth. Then its "samak" was raised by power that gave the spin to the coupled entities, and the time clock of our Universe started.

        Lunar Day starts when the Sun is set. May be first Day of our Universe was named AlJumu'atu.

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          Salamun alaika,

          The basic perception of the Root of word is

          (

          .

          That, it leads to the perception of cuddling, closeness, compacting, gathering. All words made from this Root will retain the basic meanings whatever might be their structure and form.

          Root is used 129 times in Qur'aan.

          Both the words you have mentioned are primarily Verbal Nouns. And Verbal Noun signifies an act and a state. Verbal Nouns can also be adopted as Proper Nouns by the natives. The difference between both you can see by noticing the Prepositional Phrase in the second case, and to realize that it is a Proper Name for a day of the month.

          The basic perception is inherent therein. Whatever is physical, it has a time reference. What is the Zero time of our Universe? It preceded a physical act. Joining together, compacting of the Sky-gassuous mass that was stretched in seven layers and the Earth. Then its "samak" was raised by power that gave the spin to the coupled entities, and the time clock of our Universe started.

          Lunar Day starts when the Sun is set. May be first Day of our Universe was named AlJumu'atu.

          hypno

          samak?? fish? ???

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            Mazhar
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            hypno

            samak?? fish? ???

            Salamun alaiki,

            Yes it do denote fish. That it leads to the perception of elevation, elevated point. ""of the Sky means "Interior uppermost part"
            It also denotes a thing with which a thing is raised, elevated, upraised or uplifted. Camel's hump, a pole of a tent with which tent is raised from the centre.

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              mirjamnur
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              Salam Ayisha and Mazhar
              thank you for your answers

              The first are about Judgement Day, God's Day of Gathering which is different to an ordinary day of gathering.

              I'm sure someone will give a better explanation, I can only base that on the English translation but makes sense to me peace

              this is how i understand it, just i need to know why ;D

              Salamun alaika,

              The basic perception of the Root of word is

              (

              .

              That, it leads to the perception of cuddling, closeness, compacting, gathering. All words made from this Root will retain the basic meanings whatever might be their structure and form.

              this part is clear fo me
              Root is used 129 times in Qur'aan.

              Both the words you have mentioned are primarily Verbal Nouns. And Verbal Noun signifies an act and a state. Verbal Nouns can also be adopted as Proper Nouns by the natives. The difference between both you can see by noticing the Prepositional Phrase in the second case, and to realize that it is a Proper Name for a day of the month.

              The basic perception is inherent therein. Whatever is physical, it has a time reference. What is the Zero time of our Universe? It preceded a physical act. Joining together, compacting of the Sky-gassuous mass that was stretched in seven layers and the Earth. Then its "samak" was raised by power that gave the spin to the coupled entities, and the time clock of our Universe started.
              yau are saying that that jumuati indicating a physical time. Mashi. But why damma and female? has a particular reason, or is that just the way? sorry if I nerve )

              Lunar Day starts when the Sun is set. May be first Day of our Universe was named AlJumu'atu.

              you see you say maybe ... what you think YOUM AL JUMU'ATU point at friday? of Hajj?
              thank you and sorry when i ask to much ) Salam

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                Wakas
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                salaam,

                written jum'a with damma and ta marbuta. Anybody can explain me why??

                The latter is a feminine, hence the ta marbuta. See http//corpus.quran.com

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  Mazhar
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                  yau are saying that that jumuati indicating a physical time. Mashi. But why damma and female? has a particular reason, or is that just the way? sorry if I nerve

                  Verbal Nouns do not indicate gender, nor number. They signify occurence of an action or existence of a state. Patterns are known. You can visit on line Arabic grammar and see about patterns.

                  It is used in Possessive Phrase, the first Noun is definite because of definitness of second noun; "The Day of the Gathering".

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