what is important?
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Salam,
I wish, we as a community are in a position to bail out ( legaly, financialy, socialy n emotionaly) such a situation like this which i believe hundreds of people are going through as a reason of choosing to follow the God alone part causing conflicts in so many ways.
May Almighty Allah provide us the means n will to achieve such a possiblity sooner than later -
really our planet is the hell- no need to create one- and do i have an excuse in the yaum al quiama?? do i can hope for salvation, when i DO NOTHING???? ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( whatever
Salaam Sister
I'll give you some of my thoughts. Your questions are not easy.I think we have to do like Moses in the story of the so called Kidhr (18-65 to 18-82)
We have to accept that we will not understand everything and that God has a global schema we don't know.What i want to say, submitting to God is submitting to the straight path he indicated for us and let him choose our trajectory.
The straight path is to submit to God and only God and to do good thing because we believe in him.The final justice is for the judgement day.
18104 "Those whose efforts in the worldly life were wasted while they thought they were doing good!"
18105 These are the ones who rejected the revelations of their Lord and His meeting. So their works were in vain, and We will not give them any value on the Day of Resurrection.
18106 That is their recompense, Hell; for what they rejected and for taking My revelations and My messengers for mockery!It is probably difficult to accept. But people doing good things can go to hell if they don't follow the straight path.
Rejecting the ultimate Justice while calling for justice on earth can be considered as perversive message.Many people who never heard about or read quran will go, i think, to heaven if they believe in a unique, invisible, powerfull and just god, in the judgement day, never associate other educators (Rabb) than that God to that God and do good actions in name of God.
That God can be found in other books than Quran.
Reading Quran doesn't guarantee Heaven if we follow, in name of God, what he never asked for.I was a little on you tube and now I'm frustrated and shocked and saddened. After the Reading of such docus I sometimes quietly feeling that we are wasting our time discussing, whether Mecca was in Becca or not, Kaaba and its mysterium, Jesus = Isa, quibla, Muhammad, the one who praised or the praised one......
To have the final response to these questions is not important for me. My only conclusion is that human lies are huge and perhaps it has the profound meaning that only God is true. People who put their faith is story of prophets, in false rituals will all be deceived. The messengers of God they whorshipped will testimony against them.
23115 "Did you think that We have created you without purpose, and that you would not return to Us?"
23116 So, Exalted is God, the true King, there is no god except He, the Lord of the noble Throne.Doing good things is not the purpose of life.
Doing bad things is not the main purpose of Satan. Distray from the stright path is his mission.4220 Whoever desires the harvest of the Hereafter, We will increase for him his harvest. And whoever seeks the harvest of this world, We will give him therefrom, and he will have no share in the Hereafter.
Good against bad may be a false religious schema.
God never said in Quran "you are here for doing good things" but he said "you are here for worshipping"
If humanity worhipped God as he told us, good would be done for good reason.
Doing good for bad reasons enforces bad reasons and enforces doing bad for bad reasons.God can always give to others humans more than we can give. When you give sadaqa it is you who get Zakat.
Our first task in our life is to save our own spirit. It is not a selfish Task. It is not an easy Task.
Many are those who think they have already succeeded.Peace
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Peace
These are all distractions. The reason for this strife is presented in the quran
3039 - And whatever you lay out as usury, so that it may increase in the property of men, it shall not increase with allah; and whatever you give in charity, desiring allah's pleasure-- it is these (persons) that shall get manifold.
Many claims to the truth, very few executing the will of the absolute truth.
The solution to this entire non-existent conundrum is the path of selfless service. You see, something I've learnt thus far is that those already on that path do not feel these traps, distractions and struggles.
All of these duties and struggles do not exist. Regarding society as a whole - Your 9-5 is not serving anyone or doing anything useful. Your mortgage is evil and you will be questioned about this and sorry to say but a lot of people will probably be severely punished for this. Your car payment is absolutely useless, your greed for food and lack of desire to learn about what you put into your body is the primary means of attack for the Satan. Your false friends with false desires who you can see destroying themselves in plain sight, are not truly your friends and tomorrow they will be your enemies. Your desires to look good to others, accumulate wealth and appear as the most pious might decieve other ignorant humans but God is the one you cannot fool and God is the one that truly matters. All of these 'duties' and 'responsibilities' are nothing but satanic distractions yet to your average 'good muslim' this is all that matters.
In fact I had a conversation with a random guy one time who really opened my eyes. He himself was heavily invested in charitable works and gave me the figure - are you willing to lay aside your needless fineries, and share 80% of your wealth to those deserving? And well, many talk the talk but surely it's long due time that we walked together.
EXCELLENT POST!
Thank you @IAMOP
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Mirjamnur
No I was not talking to you specifically, that statement was at society as a whole. The reason for the 'ummah' being like this is purely because the majority live the lives of sheep, following trends and not thinking for themselves. Living in vanities. But fundamentally PROFIT SEEKING IS WASTING LIFE. This is my entire point. All of what you accumulate in this life in terms of wealth has no life to it. All of this suffering occurs because of profit seeking, directly or indirectly.
Why did the slave trade happen? Because people wanted increase in this world. Why do sheikhs corrupt the ummah? Because they want increase in this world. Why are so many people depressed, suffering from cancer, diabetes, etc? Because the pharmaceutical companies want increase in this world. Why are we running on oil and gas when we already have various renewable technologies? Because those barons & magnates want increase in this world. Why do people work a 9-5? Because they want increase in this world. ALL of these things are pure satanism and society as a whole is to blame. Not this illusory thing called 'society' but PEOPLE. Walk down the road. Pick twenty people at random. A good portion of those are going straight to the hellfire.
As for 'looking good' I meant physical attractiveness, social status, displays of wealth, etc. On top of creating the impression that a person does good deeds. Like I said, ALL profit seeking is empty. Not empty as in there is no pleasure in it, but empty as in blowing dust in the desert or urinating into the ocean. Absolutely purposeless. And the thing is, we have a purpose. So if you spend your time doing purposeless things, then death is coming at you full speed and every second you work purposelessly is a second you could have worked towards a purpose eternal.
And you see your husband as an opressor, why don't you leave him be and do your own thing. Doesn't mean you have to divorce or leave your children, just be your own person. Where there is a will, God creates a way. To him his deeds, to you yours. Mother, father nor son nor brother or sister are going to be matter on judgement day. You're on the internet, you can make changes happen anywhere in the world from your desk, don't even need to leave the house!
And then your husband asks 'you're better than the prophet', well go tell him to read the damn quran. Nowhere in quran is it said that ANY prophet is the highest of the high amongst human beings. ANY human being has the potential to exceed in rank before God each and every single human that came before themselves, prophets included. We all have the potential and ability to make Jesus look like Hitler. So keep that in mind, your potential is limitless, so why will you fall into the ploy of limiting yourself? Which of the favours of your lord will you deny?
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Mirjamnur
No I was not talking to you specifically, that statement was at society as a whole. The reason for the 'ummah' being like this is purely because the majority live the lives of sheep, following trends and not thinking for themselves. Living in vanities. But fundamentally PROFIT SEEKING IS WASTING LIFE. This is my entire point. All of what you accumulate in this life in terms of wealth has no life to it. All of this suffering occurs because of profit seeking, directly or indirectly.
Why did the slave trade happen? Because people wanted increase in this world. Why do sheikhs corrupt the ummah? Because they want increase in this world. Why are so many people depressed, suffering from cancer, diabetes, etc? Because the pharmaceutical companies want increase in this world. Why are we running on oil and gas when we already have various renewable technologies? Because those barons & magnates want increase in this world. Why do people work a 9-5? Because they want increase in this world. ALL of these things are pure satanism and society as a whole is to blame. Not this illusory thing called 'society' but PEOPLE. Walk down the road. Pick twenty people at random. A good portion of those are going straight to the hellfire.
As for 'looking good' I meant physical attractiveness, social status, displays of wealth, etc. On top of creating the impression that a person does good deeds. Like I said, ALL profit seeking is empty. Not empty as in there is no pleasure in it, but empty as in blowing dust in the desert or urinating into the ocean. Absolutely purposeless. And the thing is, we have a purpose. So if you spend your time doing purposeless things, then death is coming at you full speed and every second you work purposelessly is a second you could have worked towards a purpose eternal.
And you see your husband as an opressor, why don't you leave him be and do your own thing. Doesn't mean you have to divorce or leave your children, just be your own person. Where there is a will, God creates a way. To him his deeds, to you yours. Mother, father nor son nor brother or sister are going to be matter on judgement day. You're on the internet, you can make changes happen anywhere in the world from your desk, don't even need to leave the house!
And then your husband asks 'you're better than the prophet', well go tell him to read the damn quran. Nowhere in quran is it said that ANY prophet is the highest of the high amongst human beings. ANY human being has the potential to exceed in rank before God each and every single human that came before themselves, prophets included. We all have the potential and ability to make Jesus look like Hitler. So keep that in mind, your potential is limitless, so why will you fall into the ploy of limiting yourself? Which of the favours of your lord will you deny?
Golden words @IAMOP!
Everybody should read your two posts in this thread! )
So true!
Thank you so much for reminding me of this!
God bless you!
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Peace Mirjamnur )
I am really enjoying this thread and it's allowing for a big reality check.
IAMOP, your post is difficult to read because it's hard for me to comes terms with the fact that what you say it very true. It scares me. Perhaps, it scares me straight to some degree.
"The solution to this entire non-existent conundrum is the path of selfless service"
Right on. However, I am so weak. I get caught up in my worldly desires. I try to make up for it by giving charity, helping people around me, etc. It's just not enough, is it? I like going out and helping within the community...but I still feel like it's never enough. I enjoy dressing up and looking nice. I like having nice things for my house, and I like driving a nice car. Yet, somehow, I feel guilty for all of it. And for all we know, I may be dead tomorrow, having done very little that is good in this world.
Mirjamnur,
You need someone to talk, then you can pm me. Your husband does not let you go out at all? I was thinking..since you live in Egypt, there must be organizations that could join to help the poor/destitute? I would tell you to go for it and do what you think is right, but at the same time, I do not want to put you and your children at harms way.
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Peace.
You should just do what you can.
Yes, stand up for your rights and beliefs, if you think you have a basis.
You are not alone sister, it seems that a number of us, including me, have gone through hardship and tested and tried on a number of times. Stand up, defend yourself. Fear no one but God. The worst they can do is kill you."Fear not those who can kill the body. but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew 102
Just go out and do good, and whatever happens happens. Pray to God, and ask others for help.
Don't be afraid, be stern and don't fear... we only live for a short while. Stand up for what you believe in!Do you expect to enter Paradise without being tested like those before you? They were tested with hardship and adversity, and were shaken up, until the messenger and those who believed with him said, "Where is GOD's victory?" GOD's victory is near.
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The Original purpose of our creation?
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Salam all
thank you all so much for your kind and good answers.
I sometimes see all negative and how Realeased said, guilty for what I still may wish l = in comparison to other. And what IAMOP say it's so true. Since one and half years, I have also started to live my own life, I met all my duties as a wife and at least try to do something for my children and speak from the Deen how i understand it , as huruf already said. we live as it were in the cold war, but did not argue anymore with my husband.
I lI just have the feeling, what I do is not enough - so was my original question was What is really important?
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Salams,
Go do good deeds as much as you can
The Original purpose of our creation?
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Salam youssef
i read your post and i like it sooo much - thank you for sharing - if you agree, i will translate it (and the other two) in German and put on my blog. (with the original link of course) mashi? )
http//diebotschaftdeskoran.blogspot.com/"Fear not those who can kill the body. but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew 102
Just go out and do good, and whatever happens happens. Pray to God, and ask others for help.
Don't be afraid, be stern and don't fear... we only live for a short while. Stand up for what you believe in!actually I fear the death much, because I think that I did not have do enough for God, I was pretty sick lately and thought every day, what would be if it would be over now?I thought never come to die, but now I do it every day - I think that's Rahma of God . Just I 'M NOT FEELING CALM AND SATISFIED BUT I'M FEELING JUST LOSS .
Rabbi , Please take us all in the bliss with your rahma and accept us!salams