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  4. Isn't Quranism a check-and-mate to restoring the system of Caliphacy in Islam ?

Isn't Quranism a check-and-mate to restoring the system of Caliphacy in Islam ?

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    tahirmeditations
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    Yesterday I watched this video on youtube, and I said to myself, if we study the steps which Muslims under influenced of the west have been taken which is the cause of the destruction of the Islamic Caliphate, isn't Quranist the "total destruction" of any hope of unification of Muslim Ummah for under Quranism, there is not even the need for a mosque because each individual recite his own prayer the way he deems it correct from his particular understanding of the Quran , thus no unification under one leader or one such Islamic government is possible

    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=--op2bDLp_Q

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      Yesterday I watched this video on youtube, and I said to myself, if we study the steps which Muslims under influenced of the west have been taken which is the cause of the destruction of the Islamic Caliphate, isn't Quranist the "total destruction" of any hope of unification of Muslim Ummah for under Quranism, there is not even the need for a mosque because each individual recite his own prayer the way he deems it correct from his particular understanding of the Quran , thus no unification under one leader or one such Islamic government is possible

      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=--op2bDLp_Q

      Maybe there can be internet mosques or something like that. Caliphacy is not a Quranic concept. There is no problem having mosques, even the mosques we have now is OK. I personally have no quarrels with how Sunni pray. But I don't believe its the only way to pray.

      The Islamic Caliphate deserved to be destroyed. Many were oppressed and discriminated. Its not the glory they make it sound. Just read about the Otthoman rulers and Abbasid and see for yourself what kinds of people ruled these Empires.

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        IAMOP
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        The community of truth seekers is united by the truth itself, it does not need idiot mullahs preaching to anyone to bring unity.

        Unity amongst truth seekers comes straight from the heart, unity is hard wired into our souls.

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          good_logic
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          Peace Tahirmeditations.

          God does everything. Do you think if God was helping the Muslims they would have been defeated?

          They corrupted " Islam" with their made up " Hadith and Sunnah" and deserted the Qoran. They got what they deserved.

          God promises to help those devoted to Him Alone. if they follow His scripture and nothing else.

          Peace.

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            Edip_Yuksel
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            Look at this and then think again.

            http//19.org/534/constitution/

            Peace,
            Edip

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              mirjamnur
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              Salam
              real muslims can meet everywhere to pray or read or learn. It's not about the mosques or centers caliphs who would have to determine this.
              It's about the same Deen.
              Sure it's nice when people pray together, to meet in mosques or churches or houses of God..
              but limit it to the mosque as the only real house of God, or the way certain people are praying, in my view is wrong.
              Rituals are flexible and interchangeable. Everything on earth can be replaced, but not God. The focus is the important, not the way of worship.
              Salam

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                Yesterday I watched this video on youtube, and I said to myself, if we study the steps which Muslims under influenced of the west have been taken which is the cause of the destruction of the Islamic Caliphate, isn't Quranist the "total destruction" of any hope of unification of Muslim Ummah for under Quranism, there is not even the need for a mosque because each individual recite his own prayer the way he deems it correct from his particular understanding of the Quran , thus no unification under one leader or one such Islamic government is possible

                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=--op2bDLp_Q

                I don't know about Quranist as I'm not a Quranist..

                But in general the answer is YES YES YES..
                The true islam is not a religion and the true muslim is not a political labelling/stereotype.

                Let's substitute the word islam with honest and see how ridiculous the statement below is

                "If we study the steps which Honests under influenced of the west have been taken which is the cause of the destruction of the Honestic Caliphate, isn't Honestism the "total destruction" of any hope of unification of Honest Ummah? For under << any name of your most hated sect here>>-ism, there is not even the need for a specific sect/religion/other labelling exclusive place of gathering, because each individual recite his own prayer the way he deems it correct from his particular understanding, thus no unification under one leader or one such Honestic government is possible?"

                And in general any non-sectarian / secular movements will eventually eliminate sectarianism / organized religions such as

                • Catholicism ( thus no unification under one leader or one such Catholic government is possible. )
                • Orthodoxism ( thus no unification under one leader or one such Orthodox government is possible )
                • Christianism ( thus no unification under one leader or one such Christian government is possible. )
                • Judaism ( thus no unification under one leader or one such Judaistic government is possible. )
                • Mormonism ( thus no unification under one leader or one such Mormonist government is possible. )
                • Communism ( thus no unification under one leader or one such Communist government is possible. )
                  etc..
                  etc..
                  etc..

                Human politics and power grab are among the roots of all evil..

                Salam / Peace

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