Is reciting the end part of surah Fatiha not following 'Salat for ALLAH alone'?
-
Peace be with you
Just wanted to ask a question that crossed my mind...
Those who follow the Qur'an alone obviously know that the salat is for ALLAH alone. (6612 Say, "My Salat, all my worship practices, my life and my death, are all devoted absolutely to God alone, the Lord of the universe. ...? )
This is why we say that none can be invoked or spoken about in the salat other than ALLAH.For example, the people who follow the hadith say in their salat "Peace and blessings be upon you, O prophet..." I believe this was one of the first things that brought me to the realization that there was indeed satanic corruption in the cultural aspects of the religion, because they are speaking TO the prophet, they say "You, O prophet", and this is why, while I was still following the hadiths, I changed it myself saying "Peace and blessings be upon prophet Muhammad..." And of course, when we follow the Qur'an only, we know to throw this corruption out of the salat completely...
Look at the part of their saying "Peace be upon You, O prophet".
Then we go to Surah Fatiha, and we find "Guide US to the straight path". We find ourselves speaking about US, those who earned ALLAH's anger, and those who have gone astray.
Now, I could be wrong of course (if I am please correct me), but we are not saying this for ALLAH alone, we are asking ALLAH for something... I think it is a little bit different than when we say something like "And ALLAH is above all that they ascribe to Him", because in this you are still mentioning others than ALLAH, but you are doing this to praise Him, while in the Fatiha verses, you are simply asking Him for something, you are not praising or glorifying Him, you are simply requesting something from Him.Is there much difference when the hadith followers ask ALLAH to bless THE PROPHET, and when we ask ALLAH to guide US? This is just a thought that crossed my mind, and since then I have been reciting Fatiha, but I haven't recited the verses "Guide us to th....." to the end of the surah, there are many verses, obviously, that are not to be used in the Salah, but there are verses which speak about the disbelievers or whomever, but then the verses end with something like "ALLAH is self-sufficient, ever to be praised..." so I just recite that part of the verse. I'm going through the entire Qur'an trying to find verses that praise and glorify ALLAH, in this method.
Sorry if ended up rambling, just wanted to make sure my question was understandable.
-
Peace be with you
Then we go to Surah Fatiha, and we find "Guide US to the straight path". We find ourselves speaking about US, those who earned ALLAH's anger, and those who have gone astray.
Now, I could be wrong of course (if I am please correct me), but we are not saying this for ALLAH alone, we are asking ALLAH for something... I think it is a little bit different than when we say something like "And ALLAH is above all that they ascribe to Him", because in this you are still mentioning others than ALLAH, but you are doing this to praise Him, while in the Fatiha verses, you are simply asking Him for something, you are not praising or glorifying Him, you are simply requesting something from Him.Is there much difference when the hadith followers ask ALLAH to bless THE PROPHET, and when we ask ALLAH to guide US? This is just a thought that crossed my mind, and since then I have been reciting Fatiha, but I haven't recited the verses "Guide us to th....." to the end of the surah, there are many verses, obviously, that are not to be used in the Salah, but there are verses which speak about the disbelievers or whomever, but then the verses end with something like "ALLAH is self-sufficient, ever to be praised..." so I just recite that part of the verse. I'm going through the entire Qur'an trying to find verses that praise and glorify ALLAH, in this method.
Sorry if ended up rambling, just wanted to make sure my question was understandable.
245 Seek help through patience, and the Contact prayer. It is a difficult thing, but not so for the humble.
2153 O you who have acknowledged, seek help through patience and the Contact prayer; God is with the patient ones.
Peace
Abdullah
-
245 Seek help through patience, and the Contact prayer. It is a difficult thing, but not so for the humble.
2153 O you who have acknowledged, seek help through patience and the Contact prayer; God is with the patient ones.
Peace
Abdullah
Peace , do you know the original Arabic for these verses? If these verses are specifically speaking about Salat, or simply praying to ALLAH at any time?
-
Peace , do you know the original Arabic for these verses? If these verses are specifically speaking about Salat, or simply praying to ALLAH at any time?
Peace, it is indeed "waalssalati" in those two verses. Thank you D
-
Salam
the blessings of the Prophet deals with two important points Sunnis praise their beloved prophet often more than Allah. Second, they make so differences between the messengers. When we ask for blessings, then we should please aks for all the same!
Prayer is for the remembrance of Allah. It should be dedicated to him. We should not ask people for things, but TO ASK by Allah for others we are free and is not contrary to the commandment to worship God alone.
We can ask for ourselves, but it is even more beautiful, to pray for others or to ask for their help.
I feel that we are primarily here to carry on God's message, and doing good for the people and creatures of this earth and put ourself aside.
We are primarily here for the rest of the world , this begins with the family and the neighbors...
Therefore, asking in prayer for others is part of an extremely important part of our faith and help us get the proper humility and submission to God.- this is my opinion. )there are here in the forum many very good topics about Salat, where you will found a lot of verses from the Quran.
Salam peace
-
Peace brother glorytoALLAH
Peace, it is indeed "waalssalati" in those two verses. Thank you D
Great to see you figured out the arabic version of the verse ) . I dont know the arabic language but can read it like most muslim kids learn in childhood.
Btw I am not sure if we can pray/ perform contact prayer(salat) other than the time specified for this .
4103 So, when you are done making the communion, then remember God while standing, or sitting, or on your sides. So, when you are relieved, then uphold the communion. Indeed, the communion for the believers becomes a timed schedule.
Btw by asking help to God Alone is acknowledging the fact that God Alone has all the power and divinity, nobody else. The concept of polytheism/shirk comes when we think someone other than God can help us.
15 You alone we serve; you alone we ask for help.
Peace
Abdullah
-
Salam
We can ask for ourselves, but it is even more beautiful, to pray for others or to ask for their help.
Therefore, asking in prayer for others is part of an extremely important part of our faith and help us get the proper humility and submission to God.- this is my opinion.
Just wondering - is praying for others a form of intercession? Doesn't God tell us in Quran that there is no intercession? Can we pray for people who are unbelievers?
-
Salam Lena
Just wondering - is praying for others a form of intercession? Doesn't God tell us in Quran that there is no intercession? Can we pray for people who are unbelievers?
No it is not a form of intercession. i found a good article about this topic, please read
There is an important point which is worth considering. When one prays for anyone (living or deceased) or anything else, one directs their prayer to their Creator. He is the only One that has complete authority.
If a ?prayer? made to the Lord is to benefit a person, whether this prayer is made for one during their life or after it, the Lord Almighty knew this before He even created the Universe, before He put His universal master-plan into action, before he hurled the truth against the falsehood. He knew this, when there was nothing and no one except Him. He is not bound by space, time or the natural laws He Himself creates. That is simply the enormity of His Majesty, the extent of which is unfathomable to the human mind.
He knew exactly, what and when and how one would pray. Whether this prayer was to be made for one during the lifetime of the deceased or after it, knowledge of the prayer was with God already. Of course, this is not to be confused with free will or volition (which is often a common mistake). Humans have been granted free will and they make their choices independently, but the knowledge of those choices are already with God. In other words, these choices were not made for us, we made them, He just knew of them.
Whether another soul is to benefit from our prayer or not, we can certainly benefit our souls if we ask for good and mercy for another soul with sincerity. Ultimately, it is for God to decide for we have no knowledge of His plan other than what He informs us.
The Quran does provide evidence of support for a prayer 'for the dead' albeit through a negative context. Quranic narratives capture a situation where prayer for the dead is not feasible and for this a specific context is imparted. Through logical deduction of the narrative, it is clear that prayer for the dead as a practice of choice is not prohibited per se. However, prayer for the dead in a particular context certainly is.
all the article you found here
http//quransmessage.com/articles/praying%20for%20and%20praying%20through%20FM3.htmSalams peace