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Is ghusl a form of ablution or do I need to do ghusl and the 4 steps separately?

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    glorytoALLAH
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    56 O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles. If you were unclean due to sexual orgasm, you shall bathe. If you are ill, or traveling, or had any digestive excretion (urinary, fecal, or gas), or had (sexual) contact with the women, and you cannot find water, you shall observe the dry ablution (Tayammum) by touching clean dry soil, then rubbing your faces and hands. GOD does not wish to make the religion difficult for you; He wishes to cleanse you and to perfect His blessing upon you, that you may be appreciative.

    peace

    Please correct me if ghusl is simply 'bathe' and not anything else.

    My understanding right now is that in normal circumstances you perform the 4 steps, if you are sexually impure then you perform a full ablution by bathing yourself not the 4 steps as this is ablution and you would be doing it twice which is not needed, if you have no water then perform dry ablution. The question is is ghusl a form of ablution or do I need to do ghusl and the 4 steps separately?

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      Salam glory to Allah

      56 Ya ayyuha allatheena amanooitha qumtum ila alssalati faighsiloowujoohakum waaydiyakum ila almarafiqi waimsahoobiruoosikum waarjulakum ila alkaAAbayni wa-in kuntumjunuban faittahharoo wa-in kuntum marda awAAala safarin aw jaa ahadun minkum mina algha-itiaw lamastumu alnnisaa falam tajidoo maanfatayammamoo saAAeedan tayyiban faimsahoobiwujoohikum waaydeekum minhu ma yureedu AllahuliyajAAala AAalaykum min harajin walakin yureeduliyutahhirakum waliyutimma niAAmatahu AAalaykumlaAAallakum tashkuroona
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      56

      just wondering, why dschunub by all translators refers to sexuel intercourse

      Jiim-Nun-Ba = To break or hit or hurt one's side, to lead one by his side, place or put a thing aside, to remove or send a thing far away or far off, estrange or alienate someone, descend and abode/settle as a stranger among people, to be remote/distant/far off/aloof from someone, shun or avoid someone, alienate or estrange oneself from someone, to be under the obligation of performing a total bath or ablution (by reason of sexual intercourse and semenal discharge), to be lateral or adjacent to someone or to a thing, walk by the side of another, to be gentle/compliant/easy to deal with, to be much of.

      When you are in state of Dschunub then wash/clean you- even you say this dschunub is sexual intercourse, then the order from Allah is only then wash /clean /purify yourself
      Salam peace

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        56 O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles. If you were unclean due to sexual orgasm, you shall bathe. If you are ill, or traveling, or had any digestive excretion (urinary, fecal, or gas), or had (sexual) contact with the women, and you cannot find water, you shall observe the dry ablution (Tayammum) by touching clean dry soil, then rubbing your faces and hands. GOD does not wish to make the religion difficult for you; He wishes to cleanse you and to perfect His blessing upon you, that you may be appreciative.

        peace

        Please correct me if ghusl is simply 'bathe' and not anything else.

        My understanding right now is that in normal circumstances you perform the 4 steps, if you are sexually impure then you perform a full ablution by bathing yourself not the 4 steps as this is ablution and you would be doing it twice which is not needed, if you have no water then perform dry ablution. The question is is ghusl a form of ablution or do I need to do ghusl and the 4 steps separately?

        I am glad you asked this question. I perform ghusl as the bath and ablution. I would also like to know if one has to wash their hair during the ghusl (the hadith state that one has to completely wet their hair to the roots in order for a ghusl to be valid).

        -Amina

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          56 O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles. If you were unclean due to sexual orgasm, you shall bathe. If you are ill, or traveling, or had any digestive excretion (urinary, fecal, or gas), or had (sexual) contact with the women, and you cannot find water, you shall observe the dry ablution (Tayammum) by touching clean dry soil, then rubbing your faces and hands. GOD does not wish to make the religion difficult for you; He wishes to cleanse you and to perfect His blessing upon you, that you may be appreciative.

          peace

          Please correct me if ghusl is simply 'bathe' and not anything else.

          My understanding right now is that in normal circumstances you perform the 4 steps, if you are sexually impure then you perform a full ablution by bathing yourself not the 4 steps as this is ablution and you would be doing it twice which is not needed, if you have no water then perform dry ablution. The question is is ghusl a form of ablution or do I need to do ghusl and the 4 steps separately?

          Peace,

          Red part Yes, you have to ghusl then you have to do 4 steps separately if you are sexually impure.

          This is because....

          56
          56 O you who have believed, when you rise to prayer, so wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of janabah, then purify yourselves. But if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and do not find water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and hands with it. Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful.

          Ghusul = Wash

          May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
          mmKhan

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            mmkhan
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            I am glad you asked this question. I perform ghusl as the bath and ablution. I would also like to know if one has to wash their hair during the ghusl (the hadith state that one has to completely wet their hair to the roots in order for a ghusl to be valid).

            -Amina

            Peace Amina,

            Ghusul = Wash

            If you notice in 56, it says i.e., faghsiloo wujoohakum that means so wash your faces. This clearly shows that Ghusul does not include all parts of body. Only parts that need to be washed need washing.

            May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
            mmKhan

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              Released
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              Peace mmkhan )

              That was very helpful!

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                mmkhan
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                Peace mmkhan

                That was very helpful!

                Peace Released

                Praise be to Allah, theCreator theMaker theDesigner hail

                mmKhan

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                  Peace peace
                  complete washing is to be done if one is sexually impure, or went to the bathroom/releaved oneself, if one went on a long journey..

                  scaredmuslimah
                  I would say, the "Simple" reading of this would be, to wash everything

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                    unknownuser
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                    Peace mmkhan,

                    Thank you. I am so happy to be free of those hadith...they can make life extremely difficult. -[

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