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Where did "wudu" come from??

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    Man_of_Faith
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    Peace Bender,

    It is no game for entertainment. As far as I know a game does not have to necessarily mean an amusement game.

    Anyway, it was in terms of showing allegorically that God has given us the game rules and a game world to use our character in the best possible way to redeem ourselves.

    Game features is what he created for this world, like death, birth, hunger, pain, reproduction, pleasure sensation etc. If He had wanted we could live without dieing, thus it is a rule of this game.

    Without talking in an allegorical way we can say; this is not a game, this is for real.

    Sorry now the topic has derailed. See how it can go.

    May God lead us on a straight path

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      Bender
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      Peace Bender,

      It is no game for entertainment. As far as I know a game does not have to necessarily mean an amusement game.

      Anyway, it was in terms of showing allegorically that God has given us the game rules and a game world to use our character in the best possible way to redeem ourselves.

      Game features is what he created for this world, like death, birth, hunger, pain, reproduction, pleasure sensation etc. If He had wanted we could live without dieing, thus it is a rule of this game.

      Without talking in an allegorical way we can say; this is not a game, this is for real.

      Sorry now the topic has derailed. See how it can go.

      May God lead us on a straight path

      Salaam,

      yes it was off topic I am very good in going off topic
      Anyway, the game subject could be a nice topic though

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        hawk99
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        Life is like a card game. God is the dealer, he deals everyone a hand, how you play is up to you.

        God is the cosmic card dealer, he is the house, he makes the rules, on can pout, cry foul, hate it,
        fall on the floor kicking and screaming like a three year old, ask why, philosophize, but the point
        of religion/path/way/deen is guidance and that God is All-Powerful and answers to no one.

        You cannot ask this dealer what he is doing or why or how he is dealing.

        Have they found gods on earth who can create?
        If there were in them (the heavens and the earth) other gods beside GOD, there would have been chaos. Glory be to GOD; the Lord with absolute authority. He is high above their claims.
        He is never to be asked about anything He does, while all others are questioned.

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          Man_of_Faith
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          Peace hawkninetynine,

          Thanks for a nice allegory. I got interested in creating a new thread with this allegorical view as a topic.

          Time in the game is elapsing.

          May God appreciate our jokes

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            hawk99
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            You are welcome my brother,

            One can have a sense of humor, for it is God given

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              mmkhan
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              Life is like a card game. God is the dealer, he deals everyone a hand, how you play is up to you.

              Peace, &

              2116
              2116 And We did not create the heaven and earth and that between them in play.

              2117
              2117 Had We intended to take a passtime, We could have taken it from with Us - if We were to do so.

              May Allah help us understand the truth and guide us to Him alone pr
              mmKhan

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                hawk99
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                Peace, &

                2116
                2116 And We did not create the heaven and earth and that between them in play.

                2117
                2117 Had We intended to take a passtime, We could have taken it from with Us - if We were to do so.

                May Allah help us understand the truth and guide us to Him alone pr
                mmKhan

                Peace mmkhan,

                You must understand what parable means, it's a moral or religious story, a short simple story intended to illustrate a moral or religious lesson.

                aaaahhhh, language barriers!

                may God guide us

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                  Wakas
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                  It is a fact according to how i understand the ayah (do you understand it any different?) the ayah is talking to people in general and then simply says if one does such a thing then you must (all) do tayamum.

                  So the argument no way tarnsishes waht Dr Zamman has said.

                  IF QZ and you were being consistent you'd say if one did X then all do tayamum, and if you ALL do y and z, you ALL do tayamum, then, ideally, explained why this was so, but he is silent on the issue. Likewise, you do not actually address the point I raise.

                  The rest of the counter argument can be no different.............it is some one who does believe in namaz ( i think) and just trying to save the day with baseless arguments.

                  As is clear from my many posts I do not believe in "namaz". As I said

                  I have noticed something about those who consider QZ's views credible, and that is they frequently make illogical arguments/statements.

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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