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    Lena
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    Lena ,I think " tafsir" means explanation/translation of Qoran?

    Peace to both.

    Thanks. )

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      Just what I wanted to say. Its like throwing away the tafseer of ibn kathir and instead welcome the tafseer of someone else. Whats the point then? confused

      Peace Wael,

      We should not throw away anyone's tafseer. I believe that we should read everyone's tafseer and try to understand it. No 'one' tafseer is 100% accurate or all encompassing, as the ultimate Truth or Reality belong with only God. However, we're all expected to try and understand this Truth to the best of our ability. So, we've all got our own tafseer, and we should continue to share it with others.

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        Peace

        What is tafseer?

        Know the fact that those/members of elite group, who had refused to accept/believe, posed a question to people,

        "Why is it so that the piecemeal descent of Qur'aan upon him/Muhammad has not been caused revelation as one time complete book".

        The reason for gradual intermittent revelation is that We might, with this mode of gradual communication, cause your heart and mind strengthened-persistently remain in a state of calmness and tranquility.

        The fact remains that We have communicated it-Grand Qur'aan distinctly , in the manner of excellently arranged flow of thread structuring the most beautiful compact web.

        Moreover, the objective is that no sooner they come to you with a proposition/example/question
        We would have already brought to you, the Messenger the factual and the best information, a breaking news about it.

        http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/25.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%2025/1.gif is a Verbal Noun Indefinite; singular; masculine; accusative; used for disambiguation of preceding verbal clause. Its Root is " ".

        The basic perception infolded in the Root is to disclose and state information about something the listener is hitherto not aware. The renowned Classical Arabic Lexicon, describes it as , "disclosure of the wrapped, covered, not known thing". The Lane's Lexicon states, "to explain, to interpret, to explicate, to elucidate, to disclose a hidden thing; he discovered, detected, revealed, or disclosed a thing that was concealed, or obscured".

        The disclosure of information, about something, which is in a concealed, obscured, hidden, covered or wrapped state that comes to the knowledge of a listener/reader for the first time, is but "breaking news" for him. The act of breaking the news occurs only once. Certainly, it is no coincidence that the word from this Root has occurred only once in the Grand Qur'aan.

        The context is about explaining the rationale and objective of gradual and intermittent revelation of Grand Qur'aan. This was to answer with regard to oral propaganda and questioning of people by the non-believers that why and for what reason the Qur'aan has not been sent to him, Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam, in one go, as a complete bound book.

        I feel pleased that the non-believers had raised this question before people, though with bad intention of creating confusion, because the response has disclosed the first priority of Allah, the Exalted. The tranquility of the exalted heart of our Guide Lord, Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam is the first priority of Allah, the Exalted. - .

        The responsibility, and expectation of people from the Guide Lord, is to guide and answer their queries and provide them the information/news about anything of their interest. The Guide Lord can feel uneasiness and heaviness in the heart of his heart on the thought of feeling embarrassment, in case he has no news and information to offer in response to a query. The objective of gradual and intermittent communication of Qur'aan is only to keep the heart of the Exalted Messenger at peace. The assurance was that whatever the people might ask from him, the best breaking news about that would have reached him prior to floating of the question or query or proposition. This assurance was reflective of the fact that need be every thing will be disclosed to the Elevated Messenger, Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam.

        Tafsir-Qur'aan is the breaking news of Established Facts

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          good_logic
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          Peace Mazhar, All.

          Help!
          I need " tafseer" for Mazhar s post?

          Peace

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            confused

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              someoneoutthere
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              Peace Mazhar, All.

              Help!
              I need " tafseer" for Mazhar s post?

              Peace

              Alongside tafseer, I thing Mazhar also explained asbabul nazul. The Qur'an was revealed in stages to give answers to the the people of the Prophet's time who came to him with questions. Those ayahs are the only legitimate tafseer because they reveal information previously unheard of. So the verses of the Quran are the tafseer. Explanation is explanation. That's what I understood.

              Salaam

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                Peace All.

                What is asbabul nazul. ?

                Peace.

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                  Asbabul nuzul is reasons for revelation. It's a concept in traditional Islamic studies that some tafseer (exegesis) is derived from.
                  If tafseer means New Revelation, then according to Qur'an, its verses were Tafseer to the Prophet's contemporaries who questioned why the Qur'an was revealed intermittently.

                  Salaam

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                    Peace someoneoutthere.

                    Are you saying there is" another book" besides Qoran called "Tafseer"?

                    Peace

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                      @Good logic

                      ...according to Qur'an, its verses were Tafseer

                      So the verses of the Quran are the tafseer.

                      So the Qur'anic definition of tafseer isn't exegesis, it is the new ayahs revealed to Mohammed (pbuh).

                      Is that right Mazhar?

                      Salaam

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                        Tafsir is commentary, so someone else's explanation of Allah's explanation.

                        7.174, 75.19, 6.55, 4.26, 7.58 and others show that Allah gives the explanation in Quran, so Quran has it's own tafsir in it. peace

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                          Asbabul nuzul is reasons for revelation. It's a concept in traditional Islamic studies that some tafseer (exegesis) is derived from.
                          If tafseer means New Revelation, then according to Qur'an, its verses were Tafseer to the Prophet's contemporaries who questioned why the Qur'an was revealed intermittently.

                          Salaam

                          25.32 Those who reject Faith say "Why is not the Qur'an revealed to him all at once? Thus (is it revealed), that We may strengthen thy heart thereby, and We have rehearsed it to thee in slow, well-arranged stages, gradually.
                          25.33 And no question do they bring to thee but We reveal to thee the truth and the best explanation (thereof).

                          if you think about the time of revelation there would be thousands of questions thrown at the prophet. He was told not to hasten with it.

                          75.16 Move not thy tongue concerning the (Qur'an) to make haste therewith.
                          75.17 It is for Us to collect it and to promulgate it
                          75.18 But when We have promulgated it, follow thou its recital (as promulgated)
                          75.19 Nay more, it is for Us to explain it (and make it clear)

                          I don't go with the traditional hadith belief that each question thrown at him was then answered by revelation but more a 'shut up and wait, it's coming' type of thing. Point was that many were too much in haste and were more thinking about what to ask than trying to make sense of what was being revealed.

                          peace

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                            Just what I wanted to say. Its like throwing away the tafseer of ibn kathir and instead welcome the tafseer of someone else. Whats the point then? confused

                            Salam.

                            Why do you let Ibn Kathir explain the Qur'an to you?

                            If you follow Ibn Kathir, he will tell you things, for example, a very famous quote - "The earth is resting on the horns of a great bull. When he shakes his head he brings earthquakes."

                            Seriously? And how can people be so gullible?

                            The only book that the messenger delivered to the world is the Quran (619)
                            The sole mission of the messenger is to deliver the message (1635)
                            We have been commanded to follow the Quran alone (72-3; 1746)
                            The Quran contains everything that we need for guidance (1689)
                            God did not leave anything out of the Quran (63
                            The best hadith is the Quran (3923)
                            In which hadith, besides God and His revelations do they believe? (456)

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                              Peace all

                              Tafsir is commentary, so someone else's explanation of Allah's explanation.

                              7.174, 75.19, 6.55, 4.26, 7.58 and others show that Allah gives the explanation in Quran, so Quran has it's own tafsir in it.

                              True..

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                                aabdul
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                                Do we have something like Qur'an-alone tafseer? If so, where can I get it?

                                Thanks.
                                peace

                                Here is "Exposition of Holy Quran" by GA Parwez, written based on focusing Quran alone. It is actually not a word by word translation....you will find justification for this approach in the initial pages.

                                The first uploaded file in http//resurgentislam.com;

                                http//resurgentislam.com/wp-content/uploads/ExpositionOfHollyQuran.pdf

                                Alhamdulillah always

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