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New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran

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    Man_of_Faith
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    Salaam zulf,

    Peacemaker, or Muslim, as I understand it, is to seek an inner peace within yourself, that you may in return ascend on the religious path. That is my current interpretation of the word Peacemaker and why it may translate into this compound verb. The making thing is searching for peace in your own soul by seeking His nearness and guidance.

    I like to use Truthseeker in conjunction with the Peacemaker "translation", to further define Muslim in English. If you are absolutely certain about the Truth, then you are well on your way into the Light.

    I am thinking whether or not Mu?min describes this condition, , when you have become absolutely certain and have no doubt whatsoever.

    Believer is an awkward translation of the word Mu?min, I am searching for alternatives, but so far I found none except describe Believer with additional words, i. e true Believer etc.

    My own nickname here is perhaps an unintended attempt to describe Mu?min. Without intention to brag or shine, I consider myself a Mu?min, but of course it is God who has the final say in that. Absolutely certain I am, at least, with no doubt.

    I am very happy that I discovered this Internet forum, because it has given me so many ideas I would probably otherwise never gotten. I must say thay people like you, through the grace of God, really help to develop the mind. A little piece of Truth in your words is enough, even if we are not entirely right always, it is difficult to determine who is right and who is wrong, in the end it does not matter, as long as we intend to be righteous and worship the Lord alone.

    First, when I arrived here, I was a bit skeptical to the heavy reform of Islam here, but now I am more liberal about it. Nothing is wrong except the unrighteous acts, is my belief now. I was never narrow-minded, but I voiced my concerns.

    Now it feels like I belong to a brotherhood of friends and I like your thoughts and I seldom criticize them harshly. Controversial thinking is only beneficial for the mind, mind exercise.

    Salaam zulf,

    Peacemaker, or Muslim, as I understand it, is to seek an inner peace within yourself, that you may in return ascend on the religious path. That is my current interpretation of the word Peacemaker and why it may translate into this compound verb. The making thing is searching for peace in your own soul by seeking His nearness and guidance.

    I like to use Truthseeker in conjunction with the Peacemaker "translation", to further define Muslim in English. If you are absolutely certain about the Truth, then you are well on your way into the Light.

    I am thinking whether or not Mu?min describes this condition, , when you have become absolutely certain and have no doubt whatsoever.

    Believer is an awkward translation of the word Mu?min, I am searching for alternatives, but so far I found none except describe Believer with additional words, i. e true Believer etc.

    My own nickname here is perhaps an unintended attempt to describe Mu?min. Without intention to brag or shine, I consider myself a Mu?min, but of course it is God who has the final say in that. Absolutely certain I am, at least, with no doubt.

    I am very happy that I discovered this Internet forum, because it has given me so many ideas I would probably otherwise never gotten. I must say thay people like you, through the grace of God, really help to develop the mind. A little piece of Truth in your words is enough, even if we are not entirely right always, it is difficult to determine who is right and who is wrong, in the end it does not matter, as long as we intend to be righteous and worship the Lord alone.

    First, when I arrived here, I was a bit skeptical to the heavy reform of Islam here, but now I am more liberal about it. Nothing is wrong except the unrighteous acts, is my belief now. I was never narrow-minded, but I voiced my concerns.

    Now it feels like I belong to a brotherhood of friends and I like your thoughts and I seldom criticize them harshly. Controversial thinking is only beneficial for the mind, mind exercise.

    God bless you, further

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      ayman
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      Now the book has a Facebook page where people can post and comment and discuss

      https//www.facebook.com/Quran4Peace

      I am working on the remaining chapters of the English version.

      Peace,

      Ayman

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        sushi1992
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        Now the book has a Facebook page where people can post and comment and discuss

        https//www.facebook.com/Quran4Peace

        I am working on the remaining chapters of the English version.

        Peace,

        Ayman

        Thanks for the update Ayman )

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        peace

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          https//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TjRQ7l_ZSMM/UXPfZKN40gI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/4GJypB4tzsg/s336/quran.pnghttps//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a9eOWcFzuZM/UXPfY_nZu6I/AAAAAAAAAkI/p_zdlNzblFQ/s336/peace.png

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            ayman
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            Peace dear brother Abdelilah,

            Those T-shirts are awsome! Thanks for sharing. I will post the pics on the Facebook page.

            Peace and best regards,

            Ayman

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              god1quran1
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              A very enjoyable read of the first 2 chapters. Your attempt to uncover the true meaning by treating proper nouns as common nouns certainly makes for a better and more fluid understanding of the The Reading.

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                ayman
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                Peace brother g1q1,

                A very enjoyable read of the first 2 chapters. Your attempt to uncover the true meaning by treating proper nouns as common nouns certainly makes for a better and more fluid understanding of the The Reading.

                Thank you for your kind assessment. Common nouns are universal concepts and this certainly makes for a more natural and universally applicable understanding, which is in line with the spirit of the message.

                Peace,

                Ayman

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                  ayman
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                  Peace everyone,

                  All thanks is due to the god that the book's Facebook page has gathered over 57K fans in the one month since it was started. If this trend continues, we could be in the initial stage of a real revolution like the Protestant revolution that helped usher Europe out of the dark ages, if the god willed.

                  https//www.facebook.com/Quran4Peace

                  Peace,

                  Ayman

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                    amin
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                    Dear Ayman,

                    Is there a complete English translations? Great work,
                    PEACE

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                      Peace brother Ayman,

                      It's a great development. I was the 13th liker or something close to that and could observe the sudden and rapid rise of your book's facebook page. It makes me remember sura 110... Maybe that time has just arrived.

                      I am looking forward to your translation of the remaining chapters )

                      Salamun alayka, my dear brother.

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                        "According to M.Asad"

                        https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FLj6NgBTQ-k/UVQV39WJoiI/AAAAAAAAAhM/Hd220ErS7uQ/s394/salaam.JPG

                        You're right. You should be critical.

                        Salam Abdelilah

                        You were right. I was wrong. I couldn't see these facts then. But I can see it now. I guess I wasn't ready for the information in his book when I wrote a post in this thread. I was blind to the facts. It indeed makes sense that the word muslim should be translated as peacemaker. Islam, muslim and other words that haven't been translated to english, and instead have been taken as proper names or nonsensical labels should definitely be translated to english, so that several misconceptions and falsehoods about "Deen of islam" can be dismantled.

                        I recommend his book to all members in FM

                        http//www.quran4peace.org

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                          Peace brother Abdelilah,

                          This is exactly the idea. Keep it simple and easily accessible. Also, focus on the so-called "pillars" because if we show that even those basic tenets have been grossly distorted and we can demonstrate how the truth in the great reading is vastly different to the traditional practices then we do not even need to waste any time in endless arguments about traditions. If something as big as "hagg"/feast has been so much distorted and turned into a pagan ritual then small potatoes such as Bukahri Hadiths and Ibn Hisham Sira are already destroyed.

                          I would greatly appreciate your help and everyone's help in sharing ideas on how to spread the word about the book.

                          Peace and best regards,

                          Ayman

                          Peace Ayman

                          Here are some ideas on how to spread the word about the book and reach a greater audience

                          1. Make colorful flyers with a short introduction to the book to catch peoples interest, including a link to the website quran4peace.org, so people can go
                            to the website and read the book. Deliver the flyers to muslims and non-muslims in the street or cycle into different neighborhoods and put them into peoples mail boxes at night when they are asleep Just kidding. Do it at daytime. This method is similar to the tactic of Jehovas Witnesses (the experts of self-promotion). This method might sound crazy, but it actually works. Haha.

                          2. Contact journalists of different newspapers about a story about your book.

                          3. Go to different forums on the internet and recommend the "book and the website quran4peace.org" to muslims and non-muslims.

                          4. Make videos about the book on youtube, vimeo and other videosharing sites. Put the book title and the url of the website under the videos.

                          5. Translate the book to several different languages (Indonesian, Hindi, Turkish, Bengali, Dari, Chinese, Japanese, Spanish etc.) to reach a greater audience.

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                            ayman
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                            Peace dear brother Timur,

                            Peace brother Ayman,
                            It's a great development. I was the 13th liker or something close to that and could observe the sudden and rapid rise of your book's facebook page. It makes me remember sura 110... Maybe that time has just arrived.
                            I am looking forward to your translation of the remaining chapters )
                            Salamun alayka, my dear brother.

                            It is a great honor to have you my dear brother as one of the early members of the page. The god has blessed us and we are now up to over 145,000 since my last post less than a month ago.

                            I am still working on the English translation of the remaining chapters. The difficulty and why this is taking more time is that they are not translations. It is actually a rewriting of the book in English.

                            Peace and best regards,

                            Ayman

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                              Man_of_Faith
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                              Peace brother Ayman,

                              I have not yet seen your works more than briefly, but the little I have seen looks promising. Unfortunatly I have limited access to any usable Internet. I would love to have a good translation of the Quran. Facebook works poorly from here.

                              God bless you

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                                Timur
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                                Peace dear brother Ayman.

                                I am still working on the English translation of the remaining chapters. The difficulty and why this is taking more time is that they are not translations. It is actually a rewriting of the book in English.

                                I understand. Good things need some patience, don't they?

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                                  https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/4__4mUx32_YTrVL7fd7kCUeOYS6GL7AotejurgO4Rco=w277-h207-p-no

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                                    https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/4__4mUx32_YTrVL7fd7kCUeOYS6GL7AotejurgO4Rco=w277-h207-p-no

                                    English Version?

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                                      Wilson
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                                      Peace Hope,

                                      English Version?

                                      Nah, copies of the Arabic version. You can follow the progress of the English version if you click on the first link in my signature and then choose "English".

                                      Abdelilah

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                                        Timur
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                                        Peace Abdelilah,

                                        what a collection I have only one copy. For what purpose did you order all those copies? Are you planning to distribute them somewhere?

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                                          Wilson
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                                          Peace Timur,

                                          For what purpose did you order all those copies? Are you planning to distribute them somewhere?

                                          I already gave some 20 or 30 copies to family, friends and acquaintances. This collection however, I'm planning to distribute at the entrance to the local mosque next Sunday, the 21st at 2145.

                                          https//www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=131741900361065&l=b15d5f4853

                                          Abdelilah

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