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The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model: The Remarkable Program Of The Words.

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    raspberry_red
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    +salaam al-amiyr

    Great program, it is like to implant the Arabic dictionary in our mind. I don't understand classical Arabic or its grammar and need to look up a word in the dictionary. However, I know Arabic letter and can read the Qur'an since an early age.

    God bless yoiu.

    Salaam muslims,

    I see you are also studying the QLM and you seem to appreciate to learn it. I am also studying the QLM, and I found it shows all the interdisciplinarity between mathematics and linguistic, which I find amazing. And you how do you find the QLM?

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      muslims
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      Salaam muslims,

      I see you are also studying the QLM and you seem to appreciate to learn it. I am also studying the QLM, and I found it shows all the interdisciplinarity between mathematics and linguistic, which I find amazing. And you how do you find the QLM?

      Salaam raspberry red

      I started yesterday and begin to understand how to use the program to extend the root words, and even without knowing the Arabic words. Great program.

      peace brother.

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        Salaam raspberry red

        I started yesterday and begin to understand how to use the program to extend the root words, and even without knowing the Arabic words. Great program.

        peace brother.

        Salaam brother,

        Thank you for your reply, this program is indeed great, I am waiting patiently for next lessons.
        By the way, I am not a brother, but a sister.

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          muslims
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          Salaam brother,

          Thank you for your reply, this program is indeed great, I am waiting patiently for next lessons.
          By the way, I am not a brother, but a sister.

          Salaam raspberry red

          My mistake, sorry sister. handshake

          peace.

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            al-amiyr
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            +salaam al-amiyr

            Great program, it is like to implant the Arabic dictionary in our mind. I don't understand classical Arabic or its grammar and need to look up a word in the dictionary. However, I know Arabic letter and can read the Qur'an since an early age.

            God bless yoiu.

            +salaam brother muslims

            100%! What you were given before are all the verbal roots. In the one example we used the triliteral verbal root to show the different extensions which you correctly presented.

            Another important thing before we proceed is the looking up of a word in an Arabic dictionary - a problem faced by almost all non Arab speakers and many Arab speakers as well. Can you answer the following questions.
            Do you know under which letters the following words (nouns) would be found in an Arabic dictionary?

            1. tawhiydun
            2. muslimun
            3. maktabun
            4. ittihaadun
            5. mustaraffaaniyyatun

            Your answers will give me information how to shortcut the knowledge for you to put quickly into your brain inshaa ALLAAH.

            +salaam brother

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              muslims
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              +salaam brother muslims

              100%! What you were given before are all the verbal roots. In the one example we used the triliteral verbal root to show the different extensions which you correctly presented.

              Another important thing before we proceed is the looking up of a word in an Arabic dictionary - a problem faced by almost all non Arab speakers and many Arab speakers as well. Can you answer the following questions.
              Do you know under which letters the following words (nouns) would be found in an Arabic dictionary?

              1. tawhiydun
              2. muslimun
              3. maktabun
              4. ittihaadun
              5. mustaraffaaniyyatun

              Your answers will give me information how to shortcut the knowledge for you to put quickly into your brain inshaa ALLAAH.

              +salaam brother

              +salaam brother al-amiyr

              The letters are as follows.

              +salaam brother

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                drfazl
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                Salam
                Brothers

                Using all your lexicon from thousands of pages program, running into millions of vocabularies could you please give atleast some ten varied meanings using different combinations of application to the following ayat, just as an example?

                1123 begets not, nor begotten.

                He gets not as wages from you for all good He has showered upon you;
                Nor has one gotten a good but for His leave.

                Thanks
                fazl

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                  al-amiyr
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                  Salam
                  Brothers

                  Using all your lexicon from thousands of pages program, running into millions of vocabularies could you please give atleast some ten varied meanings using different combinations of application to the following ayat, just as an example?

                  1123 begets not, nor begotten.

                  Thanks
                  fazl

                  +salaam brother

                  Could the brother clarify more specifically so that I can answer correctly? Remember that this is the Qur'aan lexicographical Model and not the Qur'aan Etymological Model. There is a big difference between the two. Also are your asking the English "begets not, nor begotten" or the original Arabic?

                  Thanks
                  al-amiyr

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                    drfazl
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                    Salam brother, you are talking about Arabic. So go ahead and give me varied and sensibly applied meanings for the ayat to rehearse and practise Quran in its essence to please Allah

                    fazl

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                      al-amiyr
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                      Salam brother, you are talking about Arabic. So go ahead and give me varied and sensibly applied meanings for the ayat to rehearse and practise Quran in its essence to please Allah

                      fazl

                      +salaam brother

                      Then I would say follow the discussions or become part of it. There are at least two persons here who have been willing to learn and inshaa ALLAAH great progress is being made. Within a few lessons greats strides would have been achieved inshaa ALLAAH. I will answer all your questions in due time inshaa ALLAAH.

                      +salaam
                      al-amiyr

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                        +salaam brother

                        Then I would say follow the discussions or become part of it. There are at least two persons here who have been willing to learn and inshaa ALLAAH great progress is being made. Within a few lessons greats strides would have been achieved inshaa ALLAAH. I will answer all your questions in due time inshaa ALLAAH.

                        +salaam
                        al-amiyr

                        Salam brother

                        For now there is no answer with you at all even for just two words of Quran is very clearly evident; but circumventing the question to a great extent possible, buying time. I will not be a part of this, but will wait until you serve the purpose of your invention pattern, lexicon and language that shall it get anywhere near the real communication i.e. communication of Allah with us, as the grandest purpose of Quran.

                        Peace brother
                        fazl

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                          al-amiyr
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                          Salam brother

                          For now there is no answer with you at all even for just two words of Quran is very clearly evident; but circumventing the question to a great extent possible, buying time. I will not be a part of this, but will wait until you serve the purpose of your invention pattern, lexicon and language that shall it get anywhere near the real communication i.e. communication of Allah with us, as the grandest purpose of Quran.

                          Peace brother
                          fazl

                          salaam brother

                          How can I circumvent and buy time when I am in the process of explaining the program. Please be reasonable! I have asked you to be clear about what you want but you have not made clear exactly what you want. I have asked you to be part of the program so that we can discuss but it is you who have refused. Even on my very busy program answering many questions of other forum members I have still not refused to answer you. You asked something that requires a great deal of detailed discussion.
                          Acquiring knowledge is an interaction and if you do not want to interact then there cannot be a proper handover of knowledge or even any form of discussion about it. The decision is yours brother.

                          Peace brother
                          al-amiyr

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                            al-amiyr
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                            +salaam brother muslims

                            100%! What you were given before are all the verbal roots. In the one example we used the triliteral verbal root to show the different extensions which you correctly presented.

                            Another important thing before we proceed is the looking up of a word in an Arabic dictionary - a problem faced by almost all non Arab speakers and many Arab speakers as well. Can you answer the following questions.
                            Do you know under which letters the following words (nouns) would be found in an Arabic dictionary?

                            1. tawhiydun
                            2. muslimun
                            3. maktabun
                            4. ittihaadun
                            5. mustaraffaaniyyatun

                            Your answers will give me information how to shortcut the knowledge for you to put quickly into your brain inshaa ALLAAH.

                            +salaam brother

                            +salaam brother al-amiyr

                            The letters are as follows.

                            +salaam brother

                            +salaam brother muslims

                            Thank you for your answer! I have now gathered from you what you know and what you require concerning the Arabic language of the Qur'aan. Pay careful attention to the following.
                            The answers to the questions are as follows.

                            1. tawhiydun -----------------> w-h-d ---> verb root wahada = xaxaxa
                            2. muslimun ------------------> s-l-m ---> verb root salama = xaxaxa
                            3. maktabun -----------------> k-t-b ---> verb root kataba = xaxaxa
                            4. ittihaadun -----------------> w-h-d ---> verb root wahada = xaxaxa
                              5 mustaraffaaniyyatun -----> r-ff ------> verb root raffa = xaxxa

                            Looking at the above nouns and the root letters under which they appear in an Arabic dictionary might make you ask a number of questions among which are

                            1. why do the words all terminate in an 'un'?
                            2. why do the words not come under the initial letter in an Arabic dictionary?
                            3. why does a longer word like mustaraffaaniyyatun come under a shorter root r-ff but a shorter word like muslim come under a longer root s-l-m?

                            There are simple answers to all these questions and they are also easily understood when properly and clearly explained.

                            Answer to question one
                            In Arabic nouns and adjectives end in a rule called tanwiyn or nunation (ending in 'un&#039. There are few exceptions based on rules.

                            Examples
                            a book ----------> kitaabun
                            a pen -----------> qalamun
                            a Muslim -------> muslimun

                            The un at the end shows that the word is indefinite. If a word is definite then it loses the 'n' because a word cannot both be definite as well as indefinie. The definite article in Arabic is 'al'.
                            Examples of nouns with the definite article.
                            the book --------> al-kitaabu
                            the pen ----------> al-qalamu
                            the Muslim -------> al-muslimu

                            This un in Arabic is different than the letter n so that at the end of a word it is not written with the letter n but with a special symbol above the letter.

                            So instead of it is
                            So instead of it is
                            So instead of it is

                            Write the following in Arabic!

                            darsun = (a lesson)
                            yadun = (a hand)
                            baytun = (a house)

                            In the next post I will answer the other two questions inshaa ALLAAH.

                            +salaam brother

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                              Write the following in Arabic!

                              darsun = (a lesson)
                              yadun = (a hand)
                              baytun = (a house)

                              +salaam brother al-amiyr

                              +salaam brother

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                                drfazl
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                                salaam brother

                                How can I circumvent and buy time when I am in the process of explaining the program. Please be reasonable! I have asked you to be clear about what you want but you have not made clear exactly what you want. I have asked you to be part of the program so that we can discuss but it is you who have refused. Even on my very busy program answering many questions of other forum members I have still not refused to answer you. You asked something that requires a great deal of detailed discussion.
                                Acquiring knowledge is an interaction and if you do not want to interact then there cannot be a proper handover of knowledge or even any form of discussion about it. The decision is yours brother.

                                Peace brother
                                al-amiyr

                                Salam brother

                                You are master in your lexicon; so from your invention please give 4 or 5 different meanings to that single ayat of just 2 words. 1123. It should take you hardly a minute or so. Do not say you are busy; and do not say, I am not clear about what I ask because only having clearly understood my question you have replied, that requires a great deal of detailed discussion.

                                Quran is Allah's language. With human lexicon and its graphics you will land no where is what the people would know if you still habitually circumvent.

                                fazl

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                                  al-amiyr
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                                  Salaam al-amiyr, thank you very much for your reply and this table, I run here the consonants h m d l through the table

                                  1.1) haama
                                  1.2) hawma
                                  1.3) hayma
                                  2.1) hamma
                                  2.2) hamma
                                  2.3) hamma
                                  3.1) hamaa
                                  3.2) hamaw
                                  3.3) hamay
                                  4.1) hamada
                                  4.2) hamida
                                  4.3) hamuda
                                  5.1) hamdala

                                  I wait for your next reply, thank you,

                                  Salaam

                                  salaam+ Raspberry Red

                                  You did excellent! I think that you now understand all the Arabic past tense verbal roots. I will test to see if you have fully grasped the concept in its entirety at this level.

                                  Decompress the the following triliteral past tense compression XaXaXa with the following values.

                                  first ......X = ' (the first consonantal letter 'amzah)
                                  second ..x = ' (the first consonantal letter 'amzaH)
                                  third .....x = (the full Arabic alphabet of twenty eight letters)

                                  Number each in a vertical presentation! Good luck! inshaa ALLAAH

                                  +salaam

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                                    salaam+ Raspberry Red

                                    You did excellent! I think that you now understand all the Arabic past tense verbal roots. I will test to see if you have fully grasped the concept in its entirety at this level.

                                    Decompress the the following triliteral past tense compression XaXaXa with the following values.

                                    first ......X = ' (the first consonantal letter 'amzah)
                                    second ..x = ' (the first consonantal letter 'amzaH)
                                    third .....x = (the full Arabic alphabet of twenty eight letters)

                                    Number each in a vertical presentation! Good luck! inshaa ALLAAH

                                    +salaam

                                    Salaam al-amiyr,

                                    I was waiting patiently for your next post to me, thank you very much.
                                    I try here the decompression that you asked me above

                                    01 'a'a'a
                                    02 'a'aba
                                    03 'a'ata
                                    04 'a'atha
                                    05 'a'aja
                                    06 'a'aha
                                    07 'a'akha
                                    08 'a'ada
                                    09 'a'adha
                                    10 'a'ara
                                    11 'a'aza
                                    12 'a'asa
                                    13 'a'asha
                                    14 'a'aSa
                                    15 'a'aDa
                                    16 'a'aTa
                                    17 'a'aDha
                                    18 'a'a''a
                                    19 'a'agha
                                    20 'a'afa
                                    21 'a'aqa
                                    22 'a'aka
                                    23 'a'ala
                                    24 'a'ama
                                    25 'a'ana
                                    26 'a'aHa
                                    27 'a'awa
                                    28 'a'aya

                                    I wait for your next answer and correction maybe. Thank you again.

                                    Salaam

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                                      al-amiyr
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                                      +salaam brother al-amiyr

                                      +salaam brother

                                      +salaam brother muslims

                                      Excellent!

                                      Write the following in Arabic letters based on the given Arabic rules!

                                      • qalamun....... = a pen
                                      • waraqun....... = a paper
                                      • waladun........ = a boy
                                      • rajulun.......... = a man
                                      • maktabun..... = a table (writing)

                                      Place the following triliteral past tense verb root letters into its fifteen forms!

                                      b - S - r ( take note that here a big S = the Arabic letter Saad and a small s = the Arabic letter siyn)

                                      Good luck!

                                      +salaam

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                                        al-amiyr
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                                        Salaam al-amiyr,

                                        I was waiting patiently for your next post to me, thank you very much.
                                        I try here the decompression that you asked me above

                                        01 'a'a'a
                                        02 'a'aba
                                        03 'a'ata
                                        04 'a'atha
                                        05 'a'aja
                                        06 'a'aha
                                        07 'a'akha
                                        08 'a'ada
                                        09 'a'adha
                                        10 'a'ara
                                        11 'a'aza
                                        12 'a'asa
                                        13 'a'asha
                                        14 'a'aSa
                                        15 'a'aDa
                                        16 'a'aTa
                                        17 'a'aDha
                                        18 'a'a''a
                                        19 'a'agha
                                        20 'a'afa
                                        21 'a'aqa
                                        22 'a'aka
                                        23 'a'ala
                                        24 'a'ama
                                        25 'a'ana
                                        26 'a'aHa
                                        27 'a'awa
                                        28 'a'aya

                                        I wait for your next answer and correction maybe. Thank you again.

                                        Salaam

                                        salaam+ Raspberry Red

                                        You did excellent! So far you did everything correctly. Another test before we go to another level inshaa ALLAAH.

                                        Decompress the the following triliteral past tense compression XaXaXa with the following values.

                                        first ......X = s (the twelfth consonantal letter siyn)
                                        second ..x = (the full Arabic alphabet of twenty eight letters)
                                        third .....x = m (the twenty-forth consonantal letter miym)

                                        Number each in a vertical presentation! Good luck! inshaa ALLAAH

                                        +salaam

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                                          salaam+ Raspberry Red

                                          You did excellent! So far you did everything correctly. Another test before we go to another level inshaa ALLAAH.

                                          Decompress the the following triliteral past tense compression XaXaXa with the following values.

                                          first ......X = s (the twelfth consonantal letter siyn)
                                          second ..x = (the full Arabic alphabet of twenty eight letters)
                                          third .....x = m (the twenty-forth consonantal letter miym)

                                          Number each in a vertical presentation! Good luck! inshaa ALLAAH

                                          +salaam

                                          Salaam al-amiyr, thank you very much again. I try my best to answer correctly your questions.

                                          s x m

                                          01 sa'ama
                                          02 sabama
                                          03 satama
                                          04 sathama
                                          05 sajama
                                          06 sahama
                                          07 sakhama
                                          08 sadama
                                          09 sadhama
                                          10 sarama
                                          11 sazama
                                          12 sasama
                                          13 sashama
                                          14 saSama
                                          15 saDama
                                          16 saTama
                                          17 saDhama
                                          18 sa"ama
                                          19 saghama
                                          20 safama
                                          21 saqama
                                          22 sakama
                                          23 salama
                                          24 samama
                                          25 sanama
                                          26 saHama
                                          27 sawama
                                          28 sayama

                                          I wait for you correction and for your next questions al-amiyr,

                                          Salaam

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