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    Salaam Wael,

    Having read your story, I am very happy for you.

    There is no embarassment at your old posts. You are a young man who believed what he was taught, like many of us, but you were guided to The Truth by the will of God. There is no shame or embarassment in the journey you have taken. I don't know you, but I actually feel very proud of you. D

    I am assuming in your post, you mean "Student of Allah", and not "Soldier of Allah" as I have previously read some of the posts he has written to you-with great patience!

    I get a feeling you came to my part of the world. Did you come to the markaz in Savile Town and visit the "Shariah Court" here? Where I live, is the Mecca of Sunniism in England.

    Congratulations and welcome to your freedom. May God give you, and all of us, the ability to progress as His loyal servant(s).

    Peace.

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      Pops
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      Salam. That's an awesome and amazing story.

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        Abdul-Hadi
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        Greetings and Peace, all group

        @Sunnah-hero/Wael Long time no see! sun I'm pleased to see that you have developed. <happy tears> In following ALLAH alone through AQ, you are following the REAL Sunnah of ALL Prophets (Peace upon them all!)

        I'm unblocking you, and really look forward to reading your new posts.

        In life, it is never too late for someone to find the Deen, ISA.

        May ALLAH see fit to bless you, and all seekers.

        peace

        ~Abdul-Hadi

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          hawk99
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          Peace Sunnah-hero,

          Don't be embarassed my friend

          We travel down a road

          that has a bend

          many things we cannot see

          to God is the journeys end

          O0

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            SUPERDEADLYKING
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            salam

            well bro if you regret what happened you can repent sincerely, your only human , we all make mistakes in the end 😃 peace

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              mmkhan
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              Salaam Wael,

              welcome to the path of Allah bro.

              You may need to take off your "goggles of hadith" that you were wearing to understand alQuraan correctly. It is like, if you wear a red glass goggle, you will see everything red and if you wear a blue glass goggle, you will see everything blue, so the same with other colors. To see the original colors, you have to take off all color goggles that you were wearing. Hope you understand what I am trying to say, inshaAllah.

              Keep hold of Allah tightly and you are guided to the right path, simple as that.

              Rest, I agree with es on what she said.

              May Allah bless you, and increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only true path pr
              mmKhan

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                youssef4342
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                awwww Peace Sunna Hero
                Welcome back, no matter how far you've gone into a wrong road, you can still turn back.
                I guess God was guiding you )... Just try to be a good person. God guides those who are nice )

                I advise you to watch
                Debate with saudi Quran-alone guys and a sunni Clerc from lebanon.
                ttp//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eQ2wFuFAMo

                And looking back at your first posts.
                "Yes Abu Hanifa, Maliki, Shafi, Hanbali, Bukhari, Ibn Kathir must not be questioned at all!!"

                Watch
                when did the real insults on our prophet (mohammad) started? -Dr. adnan ibrahim
                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOHa6ZBQdUY

                Recommended readings
                The Original purpose of our creation
                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603282.0
                God's System of Righteousness (The Reward system for those who are Nice/Benevolent)
                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602900
                God's Systems of Guidance and Misguidance
                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603904.0
                Faith without good work is useless!
                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604521
                7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"
                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603259
                Forgive & you'll be Forgiven
                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603142
                God Loves/doesn't Love
                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603058.0
                ~ God's Unconnditional servants ~
                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603053

                I Also recommend going through and studying

                Mathematical Miracle of the Quran
                http//www.masjidtucson.org/quran/miracle/index.html

                Messenger of the Covenant
                http//www.masjidtucson.org/submission/faq/messenger_of_covenant.html

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                  Sunnah-hero
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                  Thank you guys but sorry the name of the member on free minds who made me lose my belief in sunnism was student of Allah not soldier of Allah hihi

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                    good_logic
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                    Peace Sunnah-hero, all.

                    I see From sunnah hero to God Alone hero. Welcome back

                    Quote from Youssef And looking back at your first posts.
                    "Yes Abu Hanifa, Maliki, Shafi, Hanbali, Bukhari, Ibn Kathir must not be questioned at all!!"

                    They will face God , like we will . Everyone will be questioned

                    5338 No soul bears the sins of another soul.?

                    5339 Every human being is responsible for his own works.?

                    5340 And everyone s work will be shown.? ( On the day of judgement!)

                    5342 To your Lord is the final destiny!?

                    Peace.

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                      Karimah
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                      I am glad you shared your story and are keeping an open mind. I can especially relate to you when you mentioned music. I come from a culture were music is of HUGE importance, its not like mainstream pop/rock music or anything like that, but from a tradition of thousands of years. Music as a way to connect with our creator and as worship so when I first learned about Islam I was really dismayed to learn that it was haraam according to hadiths. This actually kept my away from Islam for a long time but I still had such a longing for it, it was through learning about Rashad Khalifa and others who only followed the Quran and why that I was able to really come into Islam. I wish you all the best.

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                        The "problem" is just that my understanding of Quran was VERY DIFFERENT without sunnah than the understanding I had with sunnah in my mind. And going back to free minds and reading all my privious post was just so embarrassing, I sounded like a stupid fundamentalist.

                        I am still searching. Bislama.

                        wonderful story and welcome to the light. There are still paths, just hang on to Allah and He will continue to guide through those to the Truth, inshaAllah.

                        peace

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                          Released
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                          Peace Wael )

                          Congrats!! My God bless both you and Student of Allah. Don't feel stupid. Life is a learning experience.

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                            mirjamnur
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                            Salam Sunna Zero
                            i just say a big welcome back in the forum!
                            I'm so happy to hear your complete story - i was a little bit like you wearing the niqab and making Dawa in Switzerland putted all my CD's far away and destroyed my paintings- for a false believe and to become hard and agressive - Praise to God, that he guided us all to His right path!
                            Keep learning with a open brain - group
                            Salam

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                              Ruuube
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                              Alhamdullilah, how you have changed!

                              Welcome back.

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                                Eikonoklastes
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                                Peace brother Wael,

                                I rarely post on here anymore, but I do occasionally read through threads and discussions in my spare time, and I do remember your old posts and your arguments. One thing I remember was your determination in convincing others of your beliefs and finding out why those of us who believed in the Quran alone did so, and it reminded me of myself once upon a time. I was an atheist determined to convince theists that they were wrong, but slowly my consistent efforts involved me in more and more research, which inevitably led me to believe in the truth whether I wanted to or not. And I believe your truth-desiring heart, with Allah's permission, led you to the truth as well.

                                To see you here, even with your classic username ;D, humbly admitting that you have embraced Islam has truly moved me just now. And I pray you continue to be guided. Do not be ashamed of your old posts, for they mark your growth. Many of my views have changed from my old posts on here as well, and it's humbling to know that Allah continues to guide.

                                By the way, if I'm not mistaken, I believe Student of Allah is a "she".

                                Enjoy the freedom, and may Allah continue to guide the righteous.

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                                  Peace brother Wael,

                                  I rarely post on here anymore, but I do occasionally read through threads and discussions in my spare time, and I do remember your old posts and your arguments. One thing I remember was your determination in convincing others of your beliefs and finding out why those of us who believed in the Quran alone did so, and it reminded me of myself once upon a time. I was an atheist determined to convince theists that they were wrong, but slowly my consistent efforts involved me in more and more research, which inevitably led me to believe in the truth whether I wanted to or not. And I believe your truth-desiring heart, with Allah's permission, led you to the truth as well.

                                  To see you here, even with your classic username ;D, humbly admitting that you have embraced Islam has truly moved me just now. And I pray you continue to be guided. Do not be ashamed of your old posts, for they mark your growth. Many of my views have changed from my old posts on here as well, and it's humbling to know that Allah continues to guide.

                                  By the way, if I'm not mistaken, I believe Student of Allah is a "she".

                                  Enjoy the freedom, and may Allah continue to guide the righteous.

                                  That post actually made me go all goosebumps and brought tears to my eyes '(

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                                    Peace brother Wael,

                                    I rarely post on here anymore, but I do occasionally read through threads and discussions in my spare time, and I do remember your old posts and your arguments. One thing I remember was your determination in convincing others of your beliefs and finding out why those of us who believed in the Quran alone did so, and it reminded me of myself once upon a time. I was an atheist determined to convince theists that they were wrong, but slowly my consistent efforts involved me in more and more research, which inevitably led me to believe in the truth whether I wanted to or not. And I believe your truth-desiring heart, with Allah's permission, led you to the truth as well.

                                    To see you here, even with your classic username ;D, humbly admitting that you have embraced Islam has truly moved me just now. And I pray you continue to be guided. Do not be ashamed of your old posts, for they mark your growth. Many of my views have changed from my old posts on here as well, and it's humbling to know that Allah continues to guide.

                                    By the way, if I'm not mistaken, I believe Student of Allah is a "she".

                                    Enjoy the freedom, and may Allah continue to guide the righteous.

                                    Salaam Sunnah-zero and welcome back to the forum handshake,

                                    I am very happy to read you have found AlSiraat AlMustaqeem, inshaAllah you will walk on it till your last breath pr
                                    Don't be ashamed of your old post, no mumin will ever use it against you inshaAllah. We are not Firaun.
                                    Most of us all began the same as you, we also preached sunnism (or any other religion) with full conviction to others.
                                    And I am almost sure next year you will also not agree with most of your posts of today. We are all learning and changing (=growing) our views, sometimes small changes sometimes "revolutionary" ideas.

                                    Salaam,
                                    Bender

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                                      SHAKSMED
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                                      salaam sunnah hero and all,
                                      I had read all your posts and debates with great interest and highly regard any post by student of Allah as he is always so precise yet so clear in his views. It is good to see you have come to the right conclusions as far being a 'Quranist' is concerned. welcome

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                                        Sunnah-hero
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                                        Salaam Wael,

                                        Having read your story, I am very happy for you.

                                        There is no embarassment at your old posts. You are a young man who believed what he was taught, like many of us, but you were guided to The Truth by the will of God. There is no shame or embarassment in the journey you have taken. I don't know you, but I actually feel very proud of you. D

                                        I am assuming in your post, you mean "Student of Allah", and not "Soldier of Allah" as I have previously read some of the posts he has written to you-with great patience!

                                        I get a feeling you came to my part of the world. Did you come to the markaz in Savile Town and visit the "Shariah Court" here? Where I live, is the Mecca of Sunniism in England.

                                        Congratulations and welcome to your freedom. May God give you, and all of us, the ability to progress as His loyal servant(s).

                                        Peace.

                                        Yes hihi I ment student of Allah . He explained to me that ulama aren't "experts" as they read the same Quran as us and therefore what they say are nothing more then pure opinions and that they aren't scientific as well since there is no science over "science of Hadith".

                                        Yesss UK is Mecca of sunnism as you call it , when I made dawa UK was my favorite place. In Spain most marroccans aren't religious at all, in fact they don't care about sharia neither do they care about ulama. They are mostly just Muslims by culture and Islam is for them is mostly just celebrating eid. Most of the marroccans I know I Spain litterly just laughed at me and asked me to "get a life" when I was doing dawa. So I visited holland where my mothers brother live and there is many marroccans in holland but 90% of all I met were not religious either, in fact one marroccan guy even told me that "I wasn't welcome" in holland! So I litterly fled to UK just to give my dawa a last chance and I was so so surprised that UK is just the opposite of Spain and holland.. I saw many Muslim women wearing hijab and niqaab in UK and many men having beard.. Not only that, many Pakistanis and Indians also came to listen to me and they were all so extreme Sunnis like myself. I used to sit with them and backbite the European society .. How the European women looked like whores and how they would all go to hell .. And how they are in war against Islam.. Many of the Muslims in UK who I spoke to openly supported sharia and they would tell me that sharia is actually being implemented in UK by sharia courts and soon inshallah UK would become a sharia state. We also tried to call kafir murdads to dawa but when we preached dawa to them we would always be careful about not mentioning anything offending to them.. WE Wont reveal our deep detest for them neither would we reveal any negativity about Islam to them.. The trick is to use straw man fallacy and talk with them about matters which most human beings would agree to and to emphasize and exaggerate the problems in the west. For instance we would exaggerate the rape statistics in UK and then provide hijab as a solution.. But in the same time be careful not to mention the rape statistics in Saudi Arabia (which is much higher) or reveal to them that you need 4 witnesses to prove a rape ... Or to mention that rape is allowed during war time through slavery.. And we would preach that Islam didn't have priesthood as they have in Christianity and carefully avoid to mention the role of our ULAMA.. It was from the goat looking guy with the funny English accent called Zakir naik which we got all these ideas from .. I don't know if you know him . . I was in Manchester, York, Birmingham, Nottingham and just briefly in London . Everyone I met in UK would say "subhanallah subhanallah " everytime I said anything and they would proudly remind each other that I was only 14 years old but "subhanallah" had so much knowledge of Quran and sunnah. As an Arab I am fluent in Arabic so the Pakistanis and Indians had deep respect for me and come to me with questions about Islam . I really didn't wanted to return from UK, so when I returned to Spain I told my mother that I wanted to move to UK as I found "true" Muslims there. I was fed up by the marroccan murdads in Spain and holland who insulted me or laughed at me instead of supporting my dawa.
                                        But when I spoke to student of Allah I became uncertain about my faith for the first Time and took a break from free minds in order to study the issue for mer which ultimately made me leave sunnism. Today I can see that the marroccans in Spain and holland was right while the Muslims in UK were a bunch of ignorant ungrateful haters as I was myself. I would just have hoped that the marroccans who I knew I Spain would have tried to help me out of sunnism instead of laughing at me, then I would perhaps have had left sunnism long ago.
                                        I think it's only god who can help UK from the Sunni hell which exists there.

                                        One thing I never understood is why is the Muslims in UK so extreme in their religion compared to Muslims in other countries ?

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                                          Sunnah-hero
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                                          Salaam Sunnah-zero and welcome back to the forum handshake,

                                          I am very happy to read you have found AlSiraat AlMustaqeem, inshaAllah you will walk on it till your last breath pr
                                          Don't be ashamed of your old post, no mumin will ever use it against you inshaAllah. We are not Firaun.
                                          Most of us all began the same as you, we also preached sunnism (or any other religion) with full conviction to others.
                                          And I am almost sure next year you will also not agree with most of your posts of today. We are all learning and changing (=growing) our views, sometimes small changes sometimes "revolutionary" ideas.

                                          Salaam,
                                          Bender

                                          You are right. Inte maghreby ?

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