If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword

drfazl

Peace,

When to call AllahAnd When to call Rubb, God

The Quran uses the word "Allah" when referring to the "One God" of the heavens and the earth and everything in between - all put together. Otherwise it is just the 'Rubb', meaning the God, inherently possessing all of the individual Attributes of Allah. Mostly when you seek from the earthly manifest things of Allah, delinking yourself from the hidden treasures of the heavens from where by Allah's command the mighty power descend in the abstract form to create every kind of produce for the living beings on the earth.

So when you call on Allah, know that you need a fresh creation that the world does not know thus far, discreetly as a Sign unto you from Him, Allah, to strengthen your peace or salam with Him, through His wisdom, to stand all alone in this world, and thus your Will is to be a Muslim unto Him. But if your need is of the created things or some of the visible produce that make your daily requirement for the living, call Allah as God and by His individual Attributes; or in other sense call on God when you seek from the Most Bountiful and the Most Benevolent out of what you know already as possessors of the earthly material knowledge, the idols.

Collectively calling on The One, by all His Attributes in mind, then it is "ALLAH" the only VOCABULARY, that encompasses the entire gamut of His Kingdom, the heavens and the earth and everything in between. And a Sign from Allah descends upon such of His bondsmen upon who He is pleased with the Sign having all of God's Attributes as an abstract power and as a stamp of His Authority. These are the Messengers, the chosen Muslims from among the mumins. No amount of dictionaries in the entire world with all their languages can get the glimpse of the meaning of the Word Allah. It shall have to be given to one's Ruh as a feel through Wahi by Allah.

Before you are chosen by Allah as Muslims seek from the state of your toddler's steps of being a mumin, from your God thus

2128 Our Rubb, O God, and make us Muslims unto You and from our descendants a Muslim nation unto You. And teach us our 'calling' and accept our repentance. Indeed, You are the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.

Observe in the above ayat how Rubb or God is complimented with Allah's Attributes in the end of their 'calling'.

Please read through this link
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606019.msg342675#msg342675

newmoon

The Shadow of What We Earn

Have they not considered any of the things Allah has created? Their shadows incline to the right and to the left, prostrating to Allah , while they are humble. 1648

The shadows Everything Allah created has its shadow flowing from it either extending away from it or inclining towards it. The shadow is closely associated with each and every creation of Allah. The shadow Allah describes is not the earthy shadows that recede from the west and extend towards the east, but the shadow of the heavenly bodies, that befall to our right or to our left according to each of our deeds - our righteous, or our wrongful acts - as rewards and punishments for our deeds in this world. They only follow dutifully and humbly the command of Allah, the God of the worlds.

Peace DrFazl

The revelation of 1648 doubly confirms when applied for 1817 and sense better

1817 And you see the sun when it rises, it visits their cave from the right, and when it sets, it touches them from the left, while they are in an enclosure from it. That is from the signs of God. Whoever God guides is the guided one, and whoever He misguides, you will not find for him any ally to give direction.

drfazl

Dr.Fazl, I want some clarifications on your previous post.

Whether it is a visible shadow or invisible shadow. ?
So far i have learnt a shadow is formed when a object is obstructing a light. This is what i have learnt from my physical knowledge. A shadow should have 3 things 1-umbra,2-penumbra,3-antumbra. The shadow which you mean does it have these qualities ?
What is meant by earthly shadows and heavenly shadows? How do you classify a shadow as a beneficial one or a harmful one. ?

I will be pleased if you clear my doubts.

Peace dr. rks,

When it comes to Quran what we understand subjectively by sense from any single letter, or a word, or a phrase, or a Signature verse of the Scriptures of Allah is of paramount importance. The shadow means the unseen good and bad events in the formation, in and about the entire universal force, according to our good and bad deeds. The shadows always cast around us to our right and to our left. Shadow on the right side means good news and rewards; and that of the left side means bad news and adversities. In any of our activities and speeches, all our lives, always there is this mixture of the shadows earning our ease and disease, because there is always a mixture of our Iman with worldly associations throughout our lives.

Peace.

drfazl

Peace Dr Fazl,

Heavenly bodies - does it mean Malaiyikas ?

Please clarify.

Gita

Peace,

Heaven, we have not seen but we believe there is heaven without doubt; this is wisdom far above knowledge, going well beyond cleaving the skies, by sevens. Your souls that inherit such wisdom and encompass the truthful secrets of those that are seen and that are unseen are the heavenly bodies. In this way the malayikas, the jinns, the hell, the heaven, the foremost, the prophets, the messengers, the good doers, the helpers, the martyrs, living and non living - and such of the unseen truthful realities dawned upon us by Allah, the Universal God, are also among the heavenly bodies; this apart, the heavenly bodies include various lesser creations such as the air, the forces, the planets, the stars, sun, moon and such other things seen and unseen from above the skies down to earth, and that which fill up deep down are all the heavenly bodies.

drfazl

The Prayer of the Pious

We cannot give birth to such of our descendants who would mislead His servants, to inherit this world after us. But for our own wickedness, disbelief and rejection, the world would have been heaven of Firdhouse, inhabited by the honoured guests of Allah purified of its infestation by the companions of shaitans. The newly married couple shall pledge this before their God O God, save us and our progenies from inclining towards every evil temperament and the tantrums due to the evil whisperings.

This is based on the verse
"And Nuh said, "My God, do not leave upon the earth from among the disbelievers an inhabitant.

This is a prayer against ourselves too if we are of that order. Such are the prayers of the pious.

drfazl

The Prayer for the Expecting Mothers

Most pregnant women pray to their God and say O my God, make my pregnancy be uneventful; and may my delivery be smooth; I want a healthy cuddly male baby; or female baby and nothing more. But --

When the wife of 'Imran said "O my God! I vow to surrender what is in my womb to be at Your services; so accept this, from me. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knowing." And when she delivered her female baby she further said, "I turn to You to save her and her progenies from the accursed evil-force."

Allah accepts this prayer of Imran's wife as a beautiful prayer; He not only gave her a female baby but kept her pure from shaitan even nearing her all through her life and made her the most chaste woman in all the worlds.

The above in green should be the prayer of all pregnant women during pregnancy and on delivering the baby. Imran's wife is only an ordinary woman whose prayer and submission is well received and answered with a beautiful reward by the Almighty Allah. This confirms what Allah says in 5729 So that the people holding on to the Book may know that they have no power whatsoever over the Grace of Allah, and that His Grace is in His Hand to bestow it on whomsoever He wills. And Allah is the Owner of Great Bounty.

All women shall follow the prayer of the wife of Imran, and be blessed with the Bounties and Grace from Him from every direction.

DrGm

peace Dr,

every-time as i read the ayats, i get locked in some of the ayat. i see that ayat as the interlock between me and the ayat at that particular point of time. then this ayat links with the another ayat for confirmation and clarity. in this way, as once you have said earlier, every ayat is interlinked.

again, in this way, i wonder how 7127; 335, 36; 5729 is interlinked in your posts. really a blessing, humans evolve if they can interlink the ayats in their life.

Allah alone is sufficient for the interlinks in more number of ayats paving the way for our easy living.

peace

Joe_Betik

The Prayer for the Expecting Mothers

Most pregnant women pray to their God and say O my God, make my pregnancy be uneventful; and may my delivery be smooth; I want a healthy cuddly male baby; or female baby and nothing more. But --

When the wife of 'Imran said "O my God! I vow to surrender what is in my womb to be at Your services; so accept this, from me. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knowing." And when she delivered her female baby she further said, "I turn to You to save her and her progenies from the accursed evil-force."

Allah accepts this prayer of Imran's wife as a beautiful prayer; He not only gave her a female baby but kept her pure from shaitan even nearing her all through her life and made her the most chaste woman in all the worlds.

The above in green should be the prayer of all pregnant women during pregnancy and on delivering the baby. Imran's wife is only an ordinary woman whose prayer and submission is well received and answered with a beautiful reward by the Almighty Allah. This confirms what Allah says in 5729 So that the people holding on to the Book may know that they have no power whatsoever over the Grace of Allah, and that His Grace is in His Hand to bestow it on whomsoever He wills. And Allah is the Owner of Great Bounty.

All women shall follow the prayer of the wife of Imran, and be blessed with the Bounties and Grace from Him from every direction.

Salam drfazl (hope you have been unblocked by now),

This prayer of Imran's wife is excellent as far as I am concerned, because she has totally surrendered her pregnancy to God. However, are wives today really prepared for it?

Now, lets look at the events after the prayer. Meaning, we look at what happened to her.

So then she gave birth to a baby. Is the baby a male? Or a female?

Please read 336 here http//corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=3&verse=36

For the sake of discussion, lets read Yusuf Ali

When she was delivered, she said (Falamma wadaAAat-ha qalat)
"O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a female child!"- (rabbi innee wadaAAtuha ontha)
and Allah knew best what she brought forth- (waAllahu aAAlamu bima wadaAAat)
"And no wise is the male Like the female. (walaysa alththakaru kaalontha)
I have named her Mary, (wa-innee sammaytuha maryama)
and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected." (wa-innee oAAeethuha bika wathurriyyataha mina alshshaytani alrrajeem)

So the question is, what is 'ontha'? Here is the entry by Hans Wehr, on page 30.

http//s26.postimg.org/irdequmbt/a_n_th.jpg

While this is the entry for 'thakar' on page 310.

http//s26.postimg.org/aj6vs451l/th_k_r_2.jpg

I trust this phrase is the key "... walaysa alththakaru kaalontha ..."

Yusuf Ali "And no wise is the male Like the female.
Sahih International And the male is not like the female.
Pickthall the male is not as the female;
Shakir and the male is not like the female,
Muhammad Sarwar Male and female are not alike.
Mohsin Khan "And the male is not like the female,
Arberry the male is not as the female.
A Monotheist Translation "And the male is not like the female,

Really, what does this phrase ("... walaysa alththakaru kaalontha ...&quot mean?

If it is a baby (boy) the Arabic is 'tifl' (t-f-l), and 'tiflah' for a baby girl.

Literally the phrase means

walaysa alththakaru and/as the male/penis is not
kaalontha like feminine/unmanly

So we could either read it like this and/as the male is not like feminine
Or and/as the penis is not like unmanly

Either way, this phrase should clearly indicate that the baby was
a. feminine or unmanly; and
b. has a male organ

In fact, traditionally 'ontha' refers to 'a girl/woman with unmanly penis'.

And Maryam was an 'ontha', born to the respected Family of Imran, but raised by Zakariya, a respected elder (hukm) in his community. Even in Zakariya's care, Maryam was confined to a room away from people. We read about this in 337 (http//corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=3&verse=37).

In the same verse we also learn about how close was Maryam with God, so much so that God even provided her with unimaginable (at least to Zakariya) provisions. Then Maryam was to be pregnant without a husband. She later left the comfort of Zakariya's care and gave birth to Isha under a palm tree.

Just imagine how great was Maryam's tests, trials and tribulations. Imagine the shock (or perhaps even shame) of her parents. Imagine the look and talk of the people around Maryam. Most people would be bewildered with a daughter like Maryam. Her mother was not an exception, since she gave Maryam to Zakariya's care. Then Maryam got pregnant without a husband. Then the birth of Isha. But as a true servant of God, totally submitting herself to God, Maryam overcame all obstacles with gratitude.

To me, the narrative (hadith) on Maryam is a indeed a reminder to all of us (generations after Maryam) about

Being careful and wise with what we say to God. While there are times when we need to be general (indefinite) about what we ask for or pledge to, there are also times when we need to be very definite. Otherwise, everything will be up to God alone to determine, as in the case of Maryam's mother. She pledged her pregnancy totally and solely to God, and she didn't give birth to a male nor a female, but an 'ontha'. Are we prepared for that?

But instead we should take lessons from Zakariya. "As if it is hard/difficult!" ("Kahiya AAassa" from 'Kaf Ha Ya Ain Sod' in 191). Zakariya was very definite in his prayers to God. Please read 191 to 196. So understandably, God was definite with His reply.

But this is merely my personal comprehension. It may not necessarily be the truth to anyone of you.

God be with you guys.

Cheers!
mohammed noh

drfazl

Salam drfazl (hope you have been unblocked by now),

This prayer of Imran's wife is excellent as far as I am concerned, because she has totally surrendered her pregnancy to God. However, are wives today really prepared for it?

Now, lets look at the events after the prayer. Meaning, we look at what happened to her.

So then she gave birth to a baby. Is the baby a male? Or a female?

Joe Betik
Salam

Keep God more in mind and discard the rubbishes.

Your thinking points to me you are original and not a follower of majority people's ways and so towards wisdom you are moved on; Allah guides those who listen to all such wise thinking selfs when they assemble and exchange among them their light weight to heavy weight perspectives and notions with a view to a greater understanding and for a broader sense of application so that each of them are fine tuned all the time, by Allah. For Allah loves them all.

Based on your light, the ayat is

When she was delivered, she said
"O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a feminine male!"-
and Allah knew best what she brought forth-
"And the male is not like that I have 'feminined';
Or, the penis is not like unmanly."
"I have named her Mary,
and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected."

Based on this light you shall say Adam was created with male and female component and then from the twin of him the female is separated; thereafter male and female originated as the finality of human creation. Though this was from the comic caricature of hadith graphics, the view is strongly instilled into the largest section of theologians of various scriptures, the truth is Adam is mankind with males and females cropped out of the sand as the first creation with a word 'Be' from Him all over the world. Depending upon the nature of the sand the humans are of different color, different faces, their height, the weight; and due to the differences in the sands' nature, one human race is born with such of all morphological variations.

This apart, is there any reference in Quran that God created male and female in one; and such are the blessed people to give rise to people of prophets' status?

Is it to be feared if we are not precise in our submission to Allah, we should face difficult tests on this earth because of our entrusting wholesomely for a handsome reward? Any referential ayats?

Our submission is mostly with regard to our future; and our future is entirely with Allah. We put our Trust in Him alone for all life to come. This in mind I pray to God, " O Allah, the God of the universes, I entrust myself and my family to You under Your responsibility and do not leave us under our care, ever; and You guide us in the Straight path."

I want to clear this from you Joe, before going into other parts of your post, which I do want to.

And Maryam was an 'ontha', born to the respected Family of Imran, but raised by Zakariya, a respected elder (hukm) in his community. Even in Zakariya's care, Maryam was confined to a room away from people. We read about this in 337 (http//corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=3&verse=37).

In the same verse we also learn about how close was Maryam with God, so much so that God even provided her with unimaginable (at least to Zakariya) provisions. Then Maryam was to be pregnant without a husband. She later left the comfort of Zakariya's care and gave birth to Isha under a palm tree.

Just imagine how great was Maryam's tests, trials and tribulations. Imagine the shock (or perhaps even shame) of her parents. Imagine the look and talk of the people around Maryam. Most people would be bewildered with a daughter like Maryam. Her mother was not an exception, since she gave Maryam to Zakariya's care. Then Maryam got pregnant without a husband. Then the birth of Isha. But as a true servant of God, totally submitting herself to God, Maryam overcame all obstacles with gratitude.

To me, the narrative (hadith) on Maryam is a indeed a reminder to all of us (generations after Maryam) about

Being careful and wise with what we say to God. While there are times when we need to be general (indefinite) about what we ask for or pledge to, there are also times when we need to be very definite. Otherwise, everything will be up to God alone to determine, as in the case of Maryam's mother. She pledged her pregnancy totally and solely to God, and she didn't give birth to a male nor a female, but an 'ontha'. Are we prepared for that?

But instead we should take lessons from Zakariya. "As if it is hard/difficult!" ("Kahiya AAassa" from 'Kaf Ha Ya Ain Sod' in 191). Zakariya was very definite in his prayers to God. Please read 191 to 196. So understandably, God was definite with His reply.

But this is merely my personal comprehension. It may not necessarily be the truth to anyone of you.

God be with you guys.

Cheers!
mohammed noh

Salam

DrGm

Adam is mankind with males and females cropped out of the sand as the first creation with a word 'Be' from Him all over the world. Depending upon the nature of the sand the humans are of different color, different faces, their height, the weight; and due to the differences in the sands' nature, one human race is born with such of all morphological variations.

peace Dr,

i wish to join in this discussion from a different angle apart from Joe Betik's.

mankind with different colours is due to their amount of exposure to sunlight. this is the argument from the people who call themselves as scientists. how is this argument seen in the light of quran.

peace

drfazl

peace Dr,

i wish to join in this discussion from a different angle apart from Joe Betik's.

mankind with different colours is due to their amount of exposure to sunlight. this is the argument from the people who call themselves as scientists. how is this argument seen in the light of quran.

peace

DrGm,
Peace.

Science means seeing anything through the external sight and the external senses before believing it. Science has no inner vision; and the believers in the science are a community devoid of perception of materially non-existing things such as life-force, mind, belief, God etc and they are a people whose insight is blinded almost. For this reason they cannot believe God, they cannot understand the life-force, their perception about mind is vague - yet all these are arguable materials for them; their science dealing with this field is compilation of wild conjectures called philosophies.

Color, shape, size, height, weight - all such and more are The Only Designer's Fashioning and none shall have any definite say as to how and why things are like this way, and that. Unless they prove with their scientific methodology such as this that a population of whites settle down in Africa for a few generations and confirm through their scientific external senses that their offsprings have become black. And let a community of blacks settle down in England and see if their offsprings turn white. Have they done this test? No. The truth is this those whose generations are the descendants from the first crop of man from their original sands, as the whole of Adam's community first propped up in the entire land of the earth, in one 'go', do have the inherent quality of color, never to change.

The Adam's community of the world, the first crop of generations from all over the world began moving from one place to another place via land and the sea mixing with the people of different lands of various crops and getting to know each other with their insight and mind perceptivity; and understanding them all as the same humans with their cognitive constancy.

Sun burning to change the white color to brown or black; or snow bathing to change brown or black color to white is impossible. It is very evident from the fact that the sun or snow bathers never were able to change their skin colours, or give birth to dark colored or white coloured off springs after tanning during their pregnancies.

Scientists form a great majority section of the people who are blinded by the insight; and the products of their external senses and their knowledge would soon become obsolete, turn yellow, become crusts, and disappear into thin air as the time passes by. All that their science delivers to them is fake and destructive and objectionable objects as their inventions. It never caters to the insight and visionary life of a human being. They are the people who debate and argue with pride for no use to them or to the human race.

From Quran's perspective the relevance of 6 116 absolutely fits the context the world is in

Thus "Never follow the science of the people on the earth; lest they should deviate you from the Inspiring Sign of your insight and make you loiter and go astray chasing every object you see through your illusionary sci-fi external sights; they follow nothing but hypotheses; and they are a people drowned in their own hypotheses."

Noon_waalqalami

Either way, this phrase should clearly indicate that the baby was
a. feminine or unmanly; and
b. has a male organ

In fact, traditionally 'ontha' refers to 'a girl/woman with unmanly penis'.

Based on your light, the ayat is

When she was delivered, she said
"O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a feminine male!"-

Peace -- bizarre translation! It is clear untha in all occurrences means female.

336 so when delivered her said she lord that I delivered her untha/female and the god of knowledge in what delivered and not is the male as the female

411 directs you the god in children yours lildhakari/to the male like share al-unthayayni/the female two

unknownuser

When she was delivered, she said
"O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a feminine male!"-
and Allah knew best what she brought forth-
"And the male is not like that I have 'feminined';
Or, the penis is not like unmanly."
"I have named her Mary,
and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected."

Ya Allooooh!!!

drfazl

@ Earthdom,

No need to exclaim with such emotion; the discussion had just started; have some patience. Instead of reacting, come out with your explanation in a beautiful manner. We are all here to take the best of the revelations, for sure.

@ Noon waalqalami,

While appreciating your effort at giving the translation, I would also want you to say your view on it; participate and put in your valuable comprehension if they have advantage over others' views with a goodly revelation.

Peace,
In the Name of Allah, Knower of all Things, Most Wise.

drfazl

Association of Human 'arabic-gymnastics' to God's Verbatim

Salam drfazl

This prayer of Imran's wife is excellent as far as I am concerned, because she has totally surrendered her pregnancy to God. However, are wives today really prepared for it?

Now, lets look at the events after the prayer. Meaning, we look at what happened to her.

So then she gave birth to a baby. Is the baby a male? Or a female?

Salam,
Joe Betik, Noon waalqalami, Earthdom,

Imran's wife said to God "336 I delivered a female child!" i.e a very normal female child as we all would appreciate a baby as to what gender it is. When Imran's wife said this, she meant to her God, 'how a female baby could do all God's commands before a male dominated community and be of service in His cause. To this her God said The male progeny whom you thought could be fit enough to be in My service, is not like the female, Maryam, I have given you now. Allah makes her to be the ultimate model for The Pure among women in Allah's Cause and Chaste Woman in the entire worlds who would bear in her womb that which Imran's wife submitted to her God when she was pregnant. Then Maryam, the perfect among women confronted with a malayika, a real looking male stranger who appeared before her with a Glad news and argued with him with regard to her pregnancy as to how it was possible when no man ever touched her and when she was not immoral - all the while seeking protection from her Rahman from the stranger malayika.

Joe Betik, all these incidents are plain and simple and clear verbatim particular of Quran that Maryam is a girl baby, she comes of age, she matures into adult female, she knows only when a male touches her she would be pregnant, she knows what chaste means, she knows what immorality means to the extent she argues with a stranger in malayika, she sought protection from her Rahman for protection of her chastity. Allah commends her vigilance in the ayat

6612 And Maryam, the daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her of Our inspiration and she accepted the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was of, the obedient ones.

The words Maryam, the daughter of Imran, guarded her, chastity, breathed into her, she accepted - all these are direct meanings to say Maryam, the daughter of Imran has been delivered of a girl baby.

Joe Betik, Noon waalqalami, earthdom,

The problem with you people is your association to human invented dictionaries and useless man made grammar to each of all the God taught communication verbatim. All God taught languages are for communication of the feel and wisdom you have as The Truths, breathed in your hearts by Allah.

Go by the verbatim of Quran seeking God's help to teach you His Quran, word by word, devoid of the woeful grammar and their never ending despicable thesaurus meanings by which alone you can engage in endless arguments and debates. Do not go by the shaitan invented purposeless multiple thesauruses for One Word of Allah's and proudly call it a language and equate this human invention to the Quran verbatim of Allah. Because of your association of your human languages, you have blocked Allah's direct teaching you of His Quran; and because of your failure to pray to Allah seeking protection from shaitan, the rejected one, you had failed to shun shaitans' grammar/thesaurus manoeuvred languages; and shaitan made each of you become proud with your own language skills and abilities. This pride is shaitan. The result of this association of languages to God's direct teachings is You become well versed in the languages and have become very poor in 'comprehension and communication on the dot' of Godsend feel in your Ruh.

If Joe Betik has come out with his self-limited abilities using his man made arabic, a view point you should not exclaim Ya Allooooh!!! as if you are honest in your understanding; if you are honest in your comprehension and if only you know prostrate to this Truth, Allah teaches whom He will; and guides whom He will. Argument is not Allah's way and it is unbecoming of a pious believer to argue before Allah. Allah says receive all the view points and choose the best of them all. Allah guides only these and these are the people who shall Know from Him.

Joe Betik, I am awaiting you to strengthen your view on Maryam using your fullest man-made-arabic language ability without contradicting the Aalimul Ghaib's (The Knower of All Hidden Truths) Quran. If your obedience is to be taught of the secrets of Quran, and be Guided through the seven skies to the heavens ultimately, then throw away shaitan's gymnastic lexicons, his chaos mongering languages that should give you only the pride that you know a language; and that it does not serve your purpose of reading, The Great Reading.

The_Chimp

Association of Human 'arabic-gymnastics' to God's Verbatim

Salam,
Joe Betik, Noon waalqalami, Earthdom,

Imran's wife said to God "336 I delivered a female child!" i.e a very normal female child as we all would appreciate a baby as to what gender it is. When Imran's wife said this, she meant to her God, 'how a female baby could do all God's commands before a male dominated community and be of service in His cause. To this her God said The male progeny whom you thought could be fit enough to be in My service, is not like the female, Maryam, I have given you now. Allah makes her to be the ultimate model for The Pure among women in Allah's Cause and Chaste Woman in the entire worlds who would bear in her womb that which Imran's wife submitted to her God when she was pregnant. Then Maryam, the perfect among women confronted with a malayika, a real looking male stranger who appeared before her with a Glad news and argued with him with regard to her pregnancy as to how it was possible when no man ever touched her and when she was not immoral - all the while seeking protection from her Rahman from the stranger malayika.

Joe Betik, all these incidents are plain and simple and clear verbatim particular of Quran that Maryam is a girl baby, she comes of age, she matures into adult female, she knows only when a male touches her she would be pregnant, she knows what chaste means, she knows what immorality means to the extent she argues with a stranger in malayika, she sought protection from her Rahman for protection of her chastity. Allah commends her vigilance in the ayat

6612 And Maryam, the daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her of Our inspiration and she accepted the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was of, the obedient ones.

The words Maryam, the daughter of Imran, guarded her, chastity, breathed into her, she accepted - all these are direct meanings to say Maryam, the daughter of Imran has been delivered of a girl baby.

Joe Betik, Noon waalqalami, earthdom,

The problem with you people is your association to human invented dictionaries and useless man made grammar to each of all the God taught communication verbatim. All God taught languages are for communication of the feel and wisdom you have as The Truths, breathed in your hearts by Allah.

Go by the verbatim of Quran seeking God's help to teach you His Quran, word by word, devoid of the woeful grammar and their never ending despicable thesaurus meanings by which alone you can engage in endless arguments and debates. Do not go by the shaitan invented purposeless multiple thesauruses for One Word of Allah's and proudly call it a language and equate this human invention to the Quran verbatim of Allah. Because of your association of your human languages, you have blocked Allah's direct teaching you of His Quran; and because of your failure to pray to Allah seeking protection from shaitan, the rejected one, you had failed to shun shaitans' grammar/thesaurus manoeuvred languages; and shaitan made each of you become proud with your own language skills and abilities. This pride is shaitan. The result of this association of languages to God's direct teachings is You become well versed in the languages and have become very poor in 'comprehension and communication on the dot' of Godsend feel in your Ruh.

If Joe Betik has come out with his self-limited abilities using his man made arabic, a view point you should not exclaim Ya Allooooh!!! as if you are honest in your understanding; if you are honest in your comprehension and if only you know prostrate to this Truth, Allah teaches whom He will; and guides whom He will. Argument is not Allah's way and it is unbecoming of a pious believer to argue before Allah. Allah says receive all the view points and choose the best of them all. Allah guides only these and these are the people who shall Know from Him.

Joe Betik, I am awaiting you to strengthen your view on Maryam using your fullest man-made-arabic language ability without contradicting the Aalimul Ghaib's (The Knower of All Hidden Truths) Quran. If your obedience is to be taught of the secrets of Quran, and be Guided through the seven skies to the heavens ultimately, then throw away shaitan's gymnastic lexicons, his chaos mongering languages that should give you only the pride that you know a language; and that it does not serve your purpose of reading, The Great Reading.

So why did god choose this man made language to give his message? Surely - then the fault lies with god? He made Quran reliant upon Arabic? So - if god made Quran bound to Arabic . . .then so is everyone else.

drfazl

So why did god choose this man made language to give his message? Surely - then the fault lies with god? He made Quran reliant upon Arabic? So - if god made Quran bound to Arabic . . .then so is everyone else.

You had pasted my entire post. What was the subject matter for which the post is made? And what was your take on the subject matter taken? Is it the language matter alone or the language matter is linked with a subject proper? Is Maryam a feminine-male based on one of the member's understanding of the language? And then followed by another member using his lexicon starting a debate and argument that would run to volumes of counters to no end. This is your man-made-arabic. Or for that matter in any language the discussion is no discussion but purely arguments each sticking to his view finally to say To you your way; and to me my way. Can you say the meaning of this two phrases using your man-made-arabic?

God chose arabic because the arabians were the worst of its kind in the entire world when the Prophet was chosen to guide such a fallen people who were wild in nature without sense and mind. If the Russians were even worse at that time, the Quran would have come in the Russian. So the choice is not for the language but for the people, worst hit by shaitan.

What does this ayat mean ...

54 17 And certainly We have made the Quran easy for remembrance, but is there anyone who will mind?

For each of the word, WE, Easy, Remembrance, But, Is there Anyone, Mind -

Please use and give your entire lexicon bunch in toto and give me the practical approach that suits the mind and the living the word for word meaning, glad tiding, bad news, admonition...

I know chimp, you are interested in arguments and when you are asked to sit down for a conclusive end on a matter, you would walk away as you did in our previous encounter sometime ago.

Joe_Betik

Association of Human 'arabic-gymnastics' to God's Verbatim

Salam,
Joe Betik, ...

...

The problem with you people is your association to human invented dictionaries and useless man made grammar to each of all the God taught communication verbatim. All God taught languages are for communication of the feel and wisdom you have as The Truths, breathed in your hearts by Allah.

Go by the verbatim of Quran seeking God's help to teach you His Quran, word by word, devoid of the woeful grammar and their never ending despicable thesaurus meanings by which alone you can engage in endless arguments and debates. Do not go by the shaitan invented purposeless multiple thesauruses for One Word of Allah's and proudly call it a language and equate this human invention to the Quran verbatim of Allah. Because of your association of your human languages, you have blocked Allah's direct teaching you of His Quran; and because of your failure to pray to Allah seeking protection from shaitan, the rejected one, you had failed to shun shaitans' grammar/thesaurus manoeuvred languages; and shaitan made each of you become proud with your own language skills and abilities. This pride is shaitan. The result of this association of languages to God's direct teachings is You become well versed in the languages and have become very poor in 'comprehension and communication on the dot' of Godsend feel in your Ruh.

If Joe Betik has come out with his self-limited abilities using his man made arabic, a view point you should not exclaim Ya Allooooh!!! as if you are honest in your understanding; if you are honest in your comprehension and if only you know prostrate to this Truth, Allah teaches whom He will; and guides whom He will. Argument is not Allah's way and it is unbecoming of a pious believer to argue before Allah. Allah says receive all the view points and choose the best of them all. Allah guides only these and these are the people who shall Know from Him.

Joe Betik, I am awaiting you to strengthen your view on Maryam using your fullest man-made-arabic language ability without contradicting the Aalimul Ghaib's (The Knower of All Hidden Truths) Quran. If your obedience is to be taught of the secrets of Quran, and be Guided through the seven skies to the heavens ultimately, then throw away shaitan's gymnastic lexicons, his chaos mongering languages that should give you only the pride that you know a language; and that it does not serve your purpose of reading, The Great Reading.

drfazl

Congratulations! You are right!

You should know better than to wait for me.

Yes. You are right!

Cheers!
mohammed noh

drfazl

drfazl

Congratulations! You are right!

You should know better than to wait for me.

Yes. You are right!

Cheers!
mohammed noh

This is Allah's Grace! All Glory Be To Him Alone! God Bless Us All, mohammed noh!

dr_rks

Depending upon the nature of the sand the humans are of different color, different faces, their height, the weight; and due to the differences in the sands' nature, one human race is born with such of all morphological variations.

3527 Do you not see that Allah sends down rain from the sky, and We produce thereby fruits of varying colors? And in the mountains are tracts, white and red of varying shades and extremely black.

3528 And among people and moving creatures and grazing livestock are various colors similarly. Only those fear Allah , from among His servants, who have knowledge. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Forgiving.

In your post you have mentioned that mankind came from sand or earth but in 3527,28 it is mentioned that allah brings down water from sky so as to create different colours of fruits, human beings, cattles and other living things.

You have mentioned it is from sand the colour of humans are determined, but in here its given that rain the from skies that determines it. I can understand humans cropped up from sand but according to the ayat 3527,28 its the rain water that determines the colour. Could you explain on this please?