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    unknownuser
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    When she was delivered, she said
    "O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a feminine male!"-
    and Allah knew best what she brought forth-
    "And the male is not like that I have 'feminined';
    Or, the penis is not like unmanly."
    "I have named her Mary,
    and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected."

    Ya Allooooh!!!

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      drfazl
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      @ Earthdom,

      No need to exclaim with such emotion; the discussion had just started; have some patience. Instead of reacting, come out with your explanation in a beautiful manner. We are all here to take the best of the revelations, for sure.

      @ Noon waalqalami,

      While appreciating your effort at giving the translation, I would also want you to say your view on it; participate and put in your valuable comprehension if they have advantage over others' views with a goodly revelation.

      Peace,
      In the Name of Allah, Knower of all Things, Most Wise.

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        Association of Human 'arabic-gymnastics' to God's Verbatim

        Salam drfazl

        This prayer of Imran's wife is excellent as far as I am concerned, because she has totally surrendered her pregnancy to God. However, are wives today really prepared for it?

        Now, lets look at the events after the prayer. Meaning, we look at what happened to her.

        So then she gave birth to a baby. Is the baby a male? Or a female?

        Salam,
        Joe Betik, Noon waalqalami, Earthdom,

        Imran's wife said to God "336 I delivered a female child!" i.e a very normal female child as we all would appreciate a baby as to what gender it is. When Imran's wife said this, she meant to her God, 'how a female baby could do all God's commands before a male dominated community and be of service in His cause. To this her God said The male progeny whom you thought could be fit enough to be in My service, is not like the female, Maryam, I have given you now. Allah makes her to be the ultimate model for The Pure among women in Allah's Cause and Chaste Woman in the entire worlds who would bear in her womb that which Imran's wife submitted to her God when she was pregnant. Then Maryam, the perfect among women confronted with a malayika, a real looking male stranger who appeared before her with a Glad news and argued with him with regard to her pregnancy as to how it was possible when no man ever touched her and when she was not immoral - all the while seeking protection from her Rahman from the stranger malayika.

        Joe Betik, all these incidents are plain and simple and clear verbatim particular of Quran that Maryam is a girl baby, she comes of age, she matures into adult female, she knows only when a male touches her she would be pregnant, she knows what chaste means, she knows what immorality means to the extent she argues with a stranger in malayika, she sought protection from her Rahman for protection of her chastity. Allah commends her vigilance in the ayat

        6612 And Maryam, the daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her of Our inspiration and she accepted the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was of, the obedient ones.

        The words Maryam, the daughter of Imran, guarded her, chastity, breathed into her, she accepted - all these are direct meanings to say Maryam, the daughter of Imran has been delivered of a girl baby.

        Joe Betik, Noon waalqalami, earthdom,

        The problem with you people is your association to human invented dictionaries and useless man made grammar to each of all the God taught communication verbatim. All God taught languages are for communication of the feel and wisdom you have as The Truths, breathed in your hearts by Allah.

        Go by the verbatim of Quran seeking God's help to teach you His Quran, word by word, devoid of the woeful grammar and their never ending despicable thesaurus meanings by which alone you can engage in endless arguments and debates. Do not go by the shaitan invented purposeless multiple thesauruses for One Word of Allah's and proudly call it a language and equate this human invention to the Quran verbatim of Allah. Because of your association of your human languages, you have blocked Allah's direct teaching you of His Quran; and because of your failure to pray to Allah seeking protection from shaitan, the rejected one, you had failed to shun shaitans' grammar/thesaurus manoeuvred languages; and shaitan made each of you become proud with your own language skills and abilities. This pride is shaitan. The result of this association of languages to God's direct teachings is You become well versed in the languages and have become very poor in 'comprehension and communication on the dot' of Godsend feel in your Ruh.

        If Joe Betik has come out with his self-limited abilities using his man made arabic, a view point you should not exclaim Ya Allooooh!!! as if you are honest in your understanding; if you are honest in your comprehension and if only you know prostrate to this Truth, Allah teaches whom He will; and guides whom He will. Argument is not Allah's way and it is unbecoming of a pious believer to argue before Allah. Allah says receive all the view points and choose the best of them all. Allah guides only these and these are the people who shall Know from Him.

        Joe Betik, I am awaiting you to strengthen your view on Maryam using your fullest man-made-arabic language ability without contradicting the Aalimul Ghaib's (The Knower of All Hidden Truths) Quran. If your obedience is to be taught of the secrets of Quran, and be Guided through the seven skies to the heavens ultimately, then throw away shaitan's gymnastic lexicons, his chaos mongering languages that should give you only the pride that you know a language; and that it does not serve your purpose of reading, The Great Reading.

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          Association of Human 'arabic-gymnastics' to God's Verbatim

          Salam,
          Joe Betik, Noon waalqalami, Earthdom,

          Imran's wife said to God "336 I delivered a female child!" i.e a very normal female child as we all would appreciate a baby as to what gender it is. When Imran's wife said this, she meant to her God, 'how a female baby could do all God's commands before a male dominated community and be of service in His cause. To this her God said The male progeny whom you thought could be fit enough to be in My service, is not like the female, Maryam, I have given you now. Allah makes her to be the ultimate model for The Pure among women in Allah's Cause and Chaste Woman in the entire worlds who would bear in her womb that which Imran's wife submitted to her God when she was pregnant. Then Maryam, the perfect among women confronted with a malayika, a real looking male stranger who appeared before her with a Glad news and argued with him with regard to her pregnancy as to how it was possible when no man ever touched her and when she was not immoral - all the while seeking protection from her Rahman from the stranger malayika.

          Joe Betik, all these incidents are plain and simple and clear verbatim particular of Quran that Maryam is a girl baby, she comes of age, she matures into adult female, she knows only when a male touches her she would be pregnant, she knows what chaste means, she knows what immorality means to the extent she argues with a stranger in malayika, she sought protection from her Rahman for protection of her chastity. Allah commends her vigilance in the ayat

          6612 And Maryam, the daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her of Our inspiration and she accepted the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was of, the obedient ones.

          The words Maryam, the daughter of Imran, guarded her, chastity, breathed into her, she accepted - all these are direct meanings to say Maryam, the daughter of Imran has been delivered of a girl baby.

          Joe Betik, Noon waalqalami, earthdom,

          The problem with you people is your association to human invented dictionaries and useless man made grammar to each of all the God taught communication verbatim. All God taught languages are for communication of the feel and wisdom you have as The Truths, breathed in your hearts by Allah.

          Go by the verbatim of Quran seeking God's help to teach you His Quran, word by word, devoid of the woeful grammar and their never ending despicable thesaurus meanings by which alone you can engage in endless arguments and debates. Do not go by the shaitan invented purposeless multiple thesauruses for One Word of Allah's and proudly call it a language and equate this human invention to the Quran verbatim of Allah. Because of your association of your human languages, you have blocked Allah's direct teaching you of His Quran; and because of your failure to pray to Allah seeking protection from shaitan, the rejected one, you had failed to shun shaitans' grammar/thesaurus manoeuvred languages; and shaitan made each of you become proud with your own language skills and abilities. This pride is shaitan. The result of this association of languages to God's direct teachings is You become well versed in the languages and have become very poor in 'comprehension and communication on the dot' of Godsend feel in your Ruh.

          If Joe Betik has come out with his self-limited abilities using his man made arabic, a view point you should not exclaim Ya Allooooh!!! as if you are honest in your understanding; if you are honest in your comprehension and if only you know prostrate to this Truth, Allah teaches whom He will; and guides whom He will. Argument is not Allah's way and it is unbecoming of a pious believer to argue before Allah. Allah says receive all the view points and choose the best of them all. Allah guides only these and these are the people who shall Know from Him.

          Joe Betik, I am awaiting you to strengthen your view on Maryam using your fullest man-made-arabic language ability without contradicting the Aalimul Ghaib's (The Knower of All Hidden Truths) Quran. If your obedience is to be taught of the secrets of Quran, and be Guided through the seven skies to the heavens ultimately, then throw away shaitan's gymnastic lexicons, his chaos mongering languages that should give you only the pride that you know a language; and that it does not serve your purpose of reading, The Great Reading.

          So why did god choose this man made language to give his message? Surely - then the fault lies with god? He made Quran reliant upon Arabic? So - if god made Quran bound to Arabic . . .then so is everyone else.

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            So why did god choose this man made language to give his message? Surely - then the fault lies with god? He made Quran reliant upon Arabic? So - if god made Quran bound to Arabic . . .then so is everyone else.

            You had pasted my entire post. What was the subject matter for which the post is made? And what was your take on the subject matter taken? Is it the language matter alone or the language matter is linked with a subject proper? Is Maryam a feminine-male based on one of the member's understanding of the language? And then followed by another member using his lexicon starting a debate and argument that would run to volumes of counters to no end. This is your man-made-arabic. Or for that matter in any language the discussion is no discussion but purely arguments each sticking to his view finally to say To you your way; and to me my way. Can you say the meaning of this two phrases using your man-made-arabic?

            God chose arabic because the arabians were the worst of its kind in the entire world when the Prophet was chosen to guide such a fallen people who were wild in nature without sense and mind. If the Russians were even worse at that time, the Quran would have come in the Russian. So the choice is not for the language but for the people, worst hit by shaitan.

            What does this ayat mean ...

            54 17 And certainly We have made the Quran easy for remembrance, but is there anyone who will mind?

            For each of the word, WE, Easy, Remembrance, But, Is there Anyone, Mind -

            Please use and give your entire lexicon bunch in toto and give me the practical approach that suits the mind and the living the word for word meaning, glad tiding, bad news, admonition...

            I know chimp, you are interested in arguments and when you are asked to sit down for a conclusive end on a matter, you would walk away as you did in our previous encounter sometime ago.

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              Association of Human 'arabic-gymnastics' to God's Verbatim

              Salam,
              Joe Betik, ...

              ...

              The problem with you people is your association to human invented dictionaries and useless man made grammar to each of all the God taught communication verbatim. All God taught languages are for communication of the feel and wisdom you have as The Truths, breathed in your hearts by Allah.

              Go by the verbatim of Quran seeking God's help to teach you His Quran, word by word, devoid of the woeful grammar and their never ending despicable thesaurus meanings by which alone you can engage in endless arguments and debates. Do not go by the shaitan invented purposeless multiple thesauruses for One Word of Allah's and proudly call it a language and equate this human invention to the Quran verbatim of Allah. Because of your association of your human languages, you have blocked Allah's direct teaching you of His Quran; and because of your failure to pray to Allah seeking protection from shaitan, the rejected one, you had failed to shun shaitans' grammar/thesaurus manoeuvred languages; and shaitan made each of you become proud with your own language skills and abilities. This pride is shaitan. The result of this association of languages to God's direct teachings is You become well versed in the languages and have become very poor in 'comprehension and communication on the dot' of Godsend feel in your Ruh.

              If Joe Betik has come out with his self-limited abilities using his man made arabic, a view point you should not exclaim Ya Allooooh!!! as if you are honest in your understanding; if you are honest in your comprehension and if only you know prostrate to this Truth, Allah teaches whom He will; and guides whom He will. Argument is not Allah's way and it is unbecoming of a pious believer to argue before Allah. Allah says receive all the view points and choose the best of them all. Allah guides only these and these are the people who shall Know from Him.

              Joe Betik, I am awaiting you to strengthen your view on Maryam using your fullest man-made-arabic language ability without contradicting the Aalimul Ghaib's (The Knower of All Hidden Truths) Quran. If your obedience is to be taught of the secrets of Quran, and be Guided through the seven skies to the heavens ultimately, then throw away shaitan's gymnastic lexicons, his chaos mongering languages that should give you only the pride that you know a language; and that it does not serve your purpose of reading, The Great Reading.

              drfazl

              Congratulations! You are right!

              You should know better than to wait for me.

              Yes. You are right!

              Cheers!
              mohammed noh

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                drfazl
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                drfazl

                Congratulations! You are right!

                You should know better than to wait for me.

                Yes. You are right!

                Cheers!
                mohammed noh

                This is Allah's Grace! All Glory Be To Him Alone! God Bless Us All, mohammed noh!

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                  Depending upon the nature of the sand the humans are of different color, different faces, their height, the weight; and due to the differences in the sands' nature, one human race is born with such of all morphological variations.

                  3527 Do you not see that Allah sends down rain from the sky, and We produce thereby fruits of varying colors? And in the mountains are tracts, white and red of varying shades and extremely black.

                  3528 And among people and moving creatures and grazing livestock are various colors similarly. Only those fear Allah , from among His servants, who have knowledge. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Forgiving.

                  In your post you have mentioned that mankind came from sand or earth but in 3527,28 it is mentioned that allah brings down water from sky so as to create different colours of fruits, human beings, cattles and other living things.

                  You have mentioned it is from sand the colour of humans are determined, but in here its given that rain the from skies that determines it. I can understand humans cropped up from sand but according to the ayat 3527,28 its the rain water that determines the colour. Could you explain on this please?

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                    unknownuser
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                    Salaam

                    I'd just like to say "vah vah!"

                    Looks like I know from where u came from, Zulf.
                    The term "vah vah" or "wah wah" (in my region) is same with expression "wow" in english.

                    @drfazl, regarding "Ya Alloooh" don't take it as rude, I have no intention on play rude in this forum, plus my english is also limited.
                    Maybe you're already old and too serious, so you has little now about joking (maybe).
                    Drfazl, I appreciate if you're good in phylosophies, and maybe you get banned because relating Quranic verses with your medical style.

                    But I'm not probleming this.You claim if Quranic Arabic pattern is manmade language, in my opinion all Quran's language both in Arabic and translations are manmade, because in Quran stated if the original Quran lies in a Sacred Tablet /Lauh Mafudz (8522).
                    God sent His wahy to Muhammad with lisan/oral transmission then the the wahy was written in an Arabic language by Muhammad himself or his companions.

                    You also claim if we must try to intepretate Quran withouth contradict with God's, then how we know if our understanding didn't contradict with God's best knowledges of Quran??
                    You also claim if God may teach us to understand Quran, but in the fact by using Quran Alone resulted too many kinds of intepretations and each intepretators even contradict eac other.
                    It's really God's answers to us about Quran, with many kinds of answers and contradict each other??

                    Currently I'm in agnostic state, believe in God but just refute some Scriptures including QUran.

                    Peace

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                      drfazl
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                      Salaam

                      You're already old and too serious, so you has little now about joking Drfazl, I appreciate if you're good in phylosophies, and maybe you get banned because relating Quranic verses with your medical style.
                      Currently I'm in agnostic state, believe in God but just refute some Scriptures including QUran.

                      Peace

                      You refute Quran; You are not serious; You are joker too. And you are let free to roam around and peep in for poop; and for fun, joke and play; and then laugh out of various discussion platforms. Your types are very welcome here, I know. The red part indicates you are sticking to Rule # 2, Rule# 3 of the forum rules.

                      997 The dwellers of the deserted land, are very hard in unbelief and hypocrisy, and more disposed not to know the contents of the Scripture; and Allah is Knowing, Wise.

                      Allah should not ban us from entering into, or even touching it, or worse still, not being allowed to getting anywhere near Quran; but poor you ...!? I have nothing to say about God's decision to ban you from Quran; I am sorry. Good Bye.

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                        muslims
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                        There is nothing to refute and Allah gave "sufficient evidence" for us to believe that the Book is from "One True Creator".

                        The rest of the evidence depends entirely on our level of submission, ie. level of shirk.

                        "This is what has been promised by Allah.. ONLY, and nothing more. "

                        Therefore the rule is quite simple...

                        Submit, and we will find more proof for our faith.

                        Being arrogant, good bye!

                        Iblees. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers. (2.34)

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                          You refute Quran; You are not serious; You are joker too. And you are let free to roam around and peep in for fun and play; and laugh out of various discussion platforms. Your types are very welcome here, I know. The red part indicates you are sticking to Rule # 2, Rule# 3 of the forum rules.

                          I questioning Quran not because I want to play fun, but after studied it more intensively for some months and I found some which I considered as "fallacy".

                          All religious people in the world will claim if their Scripture was sent by God as well as you.

                          "Scripture is true because written in Scripture if Scripture is true"

                          This red circle will always flowing to religious people who already influenced by dogma for many years.
                          The example is "Why Quran is true and clear Scriptures?", the most religious people will answer "Because in this verses, in that verses written if that Scripture is true and clear".

                          Hence already ask some questions regarding Quran to some locals, indeed no one capable to answer it instead play assumptions.

                          There is nothing to refute and Allah gave "sufficient evidence" for us to believe that the Book is from "One True Creator".

                          The rest of the evidence depends entirely on our level of submission, ie. level of shirk.

                          "This is what has been promised by Allah.. ONLY, and nothing more. "

                          Therefore the rule is quite simple...

                          Submit, and we will find more proof for our faith.

                          Being arrogant, good bye!

                          Iblees. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers. (2.34)

                          Who is being arrogant, this is free-mind forum, remember??
                          Members in here have each own prespective and methodologiest.
                          Indeed what you're doing is "oppression" to someone, force own belief-prespective to someone like you always did in this forum.

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                            3527 Do you not see that Allah sends down rain from the sky, and We produce thereby fruits of varying colors? And in the mountains are tracts, white and red of varying shades and extremely black.

                            In your post you have mentioned that mankind came from sand or earth but in 3527,28 it is mentioned that allah brings down water from sky so as to create different colours of fruits, human beings, cattles and other living things.

                            You have mentioned it is from sand the colour of humans are determined, but in here its given that rain the from skies that determines it. I can understand humans cropped up from sand but according to the ayat 3527,28 its the rain water that determines the colour. Could you explain on this please?

                            The whole earth is given life by the rain from the sky; before the rain there is the earth ready to prosper when the rain comes down upon it, and according to each of its nature it would grow the plantations. There are good fertile land and marshy poisonous lands too. Allah says about such lands and their fertility and produces are of varying nature, though they are watered with one and the same water from the sky, in the following ayat

                            134 And in the earth there are tracts side by side and gardens of grapes and corn and palm trees having one root and others having distinct roots-- they are watered with one water, and We make some of them excel others in fruit; most surely there are signs in this for a people who understand.

                            758 And the good land - its vegetation emerges by permission of its Lord; but that which is bad - nothing emerges except sparsely, with difficulty. Thus do We diversify the signs for a people who are grateful.

                            3528 And among people and moving creatures and grazing livestock are various colors similarly. Only those fear Allah , from among His servants, who have knowledge. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Forgiving.

                            It is all about the nature of the land that gives crops and plantations in varying colours, and as their fruits that matter - because the water from the sky is in the same blessed form to all the lands.

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                              Who is being arrogant, this is free-mind forum, remember??
                              Members in here have each own prespective and methodologiest.
                              Indeed what you're doing is "oppression" to someone, force own belief-prespective to someone like you always did in this forum.

                              So you can deny that Allah gave....

                              "sufficient evidence"?

                              That sounds very arrogant, sorry.

                              Good bye, I don't want to spoil this thread with my argument.

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                                So you deny that Allah gave....

                                That sounds very arrogant, sorry.

                                Good bye, I don't want to spoil this thread with my argument.

                                It's your habit indeed.
                                You mostly type words which only can be understand by you only.
                                It's like Quranic version of God, gave the Book to humankind which only can be understand by Him only.

                                My version of God is not same with yours, I still believe in God, but now starting studying all Scriptures from the zero again, to find out what kind of AlMighty whom I must submit to.

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                                  You mostly type words which only can be understand by you only.
                                  It's like Quranic version of God, gave the Book to humankind which only can be understand by Him only.

                                  Yes, you cannot understand.. it is the heart, not mind. The Quran uses language of the heart and requires us to be purified from Shirk etc ... and obviously many doesn't share your conclusion and can understand the Quran... at least, millions of people and thousands are converted into Islam every year after reading the Quran ... or.. yes, I forgot.. you are different, special and supreme than others.

                                  You have great wisdom and clear thinking, others don't.

                                  The problem of difference in tafseer within Quranist is lack of study and lack of wisdom and clear thinking.

                                  I try to use wisdomly conclusion for this cause

                                  Ok actually I get bored because it seems some members in here didn't study the Quran properly

                                  I guess you have studied the Quran properly and therefore rejecting "sufficient evidence" from Allah because of 1% things you cannot understand from the Quran. It is not sufficient and you need 100% proof from Allah, without even 1% effort from you to properly submitting to Allah.

                                  It is You we serve and You we ask for help.
                                  Guide us to the straight path (1.5-6)

                                  Very sound and wisdomly decision. handshake

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                                    Peace, Peace, Peace

                                    Submitting wholesomely yourself or something to Allah, the God of all Universes means He has accepted you and your entire generation behind you into His care. For example, when Imran's wife wholesomely put her Trust in Allah and entrusted Him with regard to what she carried in her Womb, Allah had accepted it very dearly. He created the submission of her into a pure female with a soul of His RUH. This is because when something is entrusted with Allah, Allah accepts the Trust with a 'Be' and He only knows how He shall fashion it with His RUH. After that based on the truthfulness of your submission, you are totally detached from doing anything as good to that which you had already submitted and placed in the Trust of God.

                                    In the instance of Imran's wife, after her submission might think of doing something good to her baby but in the eyes of Allah it is bad; what she might think as bad might turn out to be good before Allah; Allah knows while she does not know. Allah, having fully accepted her plea and submission upon Him, He knows what is to be done now. Imran's wife, the mother of Maryam has to be raised from this world leaving her child upon this earth under her God's care; her life ends there with utmost completion. Much before she was to be raised into Allah's fold, the father of the child, the prophet Imran was made to be no more. Allah's design 'Be' continues.

                                    Having orphaned, Maryam was given to, to be reared under the care of their closest relative, the most honoured one in their family, prophet Zackariya. Since Maryam was under the care of the Trust of wife of Imran, entrusted with Allah, Zackariya was never even aware of having given her enough care, or provided her with her needs and requirements; so every time Zackariya visited her room he found all provisions in abundance to his astonishment. Since Zackariya himself a believer in Almighty, the Ample Giving, he got totally satisfied with Maryam's answer, bringing his memory upon Allah, the Most Generous, to his query to Maryam as to 'whence her provisions'?

                                    Overwhelmed with Maryam's answer, Zackariya submits then and there wholesomely to Allah, His long cherished need for a successor; again like in the case of Imran's wife, Allah took upon Him, Zackariya's submission into His Trust. He gave Zackariya, a son Yahya whose name has never been spelt or christened before upon anyone. Maryam's son Isa and Zackariya's son Yahya were named by Allah, and were given much knowledge and wisdom at birth.

                                    The need for such descendants should be the ardent submission before Allah for every believing man and woman. Such babies of them have salam at birth; salam as they live; salam when they die; and salam when they are raised up. All the messengers, the submitting and surrendering Muslims, the helpers in the cause of Allah, the Martyrs of a good cause, the Good-doers, the Well Mannered and Guided people - all of them who are living today is because of such submission of either of their parents or of the both the parents.

                                    1933 And peace on me on the day I was born, and on the day I die, and on the day I am raised to life.

                                    Every child of this status would be informed of such Truth, by the Malayikas or Allah Himself as they are born and as His RUH is breathed into them as their first breath.

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                                      No Seeking of Increase in Wealth and Children

                                      Most of us are weak enough in Iman due to our lack of association free allegiance to Allah. And Allah asserts this too in Chapter Yusuf, "And most of them believe not in Allah except while they associate other than Him with Him." There is an element of shirk in the hearts of most of every one of all walks, however greatly endowed may he be, in his belief in God. This means shaitan is the chief element destroying our hearts, marring the prospects of our beautiful life of paradise/jannah starting from this world itself, right away. Every one knows well it is only by His Grace, all the elements of goods we are experiencing and living such moments at any point of time in our lives. But we are ungrateful nevertheless; we keep rejecting or forgetting due to lack of thankfulness and remembering Him more and more praising His Glory. It is because of our pride in our hearts, the words of shaitans, that whisper and say 'all glory be to us! all glory be to us!' with or without our knowledge. The more we hear to such dishonourable words from shaitan, the more forgetful we become of Allah and the more ungrateful we are in the eyes of Allah. We are rejecters knowingly or unknowingly because of our element of pride.

                                      As long as we live in this world none is free from this element of rejection, association, as a result engaging in argumentation, creating chaos and confusion to the bliss of Iblis; and to the great dissatisfaction of malayikas. If our intent is to be forgiven for these short comings all we shall ask is O Allah, the God of all universes forgive our sins; cleanse our hearts and purify our souls from shirk. More to this, we need patience and kindness towards the believers with such of those short comings that any one of us have with only certain variations in degrees and grades, swinging in ups and down. We shall have some amount fear all the time without finding fault with one another; and without becoming proud when we increase in the worldly pleasures and things. We should know at this that having all those short comings it is not that Allah is rewarding us with His bounties but as only a test more severe and severe to see how we behave. This is the reason why we have to spend from our earnings a beautiful part towards beautiful activities, pleasing to God. This is doing zakath; not giving zakath. Zakath means purification from pride and self glorification. If one is fearing God it is because of his learning and understanding this truth. But those who are arrogant with pride, Allah warns us the see them that say 1977 "Have you, then, seen him who rejects Our communications and says I shall certainly be given wealth and children?"

                                      The pious ones as believers that they are, they accept they have rejection element in their hearts and it is Allah who forgives such of the evil in us slowly and steadily; He is raising us to purification of our souls; and He ordains upon us to spend from what He had given us, and start doing it from now on. Allah says I measure your requirements and needs; it is not you would assess your needs. Become humble before me and do not advance before me priding yourself you are the earner for all your future.

                                      Those who behave contrarily are those who would be tested severely in this world with poverty and afflictions. If we have to remove our poverty and diseases and feel safe about these things for the entire tomorrows to come, never show your pride before others and spend more in the good cause humbly. The only good cause is spending to cause increase the belief and piety in God and free the community from rejection of the Truth.

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                                        Yes, you cannot understand.. it is the heart, not mind. The Quran uses language of the heart and requires us to be purified from Shirk etc ... and obviously many doesn't share your conclusion and can understand the Quran... at least, millions of people and thousands are converted into Islam every year after reading the Quran ... or.. yes, I forgot.. you are different, special and supreme than others.

                                        I'm afraid, Quranic God never authorize language of heart as well as kod 19.
                                        It's just like Christian's the Ten Commandment, never authorized in Scripture, but just the result of tafseer and religious council

                                        Indeed you still believe if Quran is God's words, because it's verses said so.
                                        All people will have wisdom thinking if they became open minded, not influenced by anykind of dogma.

                                        I guess you have studied the Quran properly and therefore rejecting "sufficient evidence" from Allah because of 1% things you cannot understand from the Quran. It is not sufficient and you need 100% proof from Allah, without even 1% effort from you to properly submitting to Allah

                                        If you dealing eith an atheist, are you still said like this?? Forced own prespective while talking to someone with different prespective??
                                        You even don't know my daily activities, so how you judge me like that ;D.

                                        Btw there is no compulsion in deen/religion.I still submit to God, but just refute if QUran is His word.

                                        May peace be with you

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                                          Scholarly Ignorance

                                          Arabic scholars search meanings for every word of Quran by their 'Root Letters'. But when Allah Himself gives them the 'SPECIFIC ROOT LETTERS' for the entire Quran, they reject it as no more than an empty pot.

                                          Alif, Laam, Meem - This is the Book.
                                          Alif, Laam, Raa - These are the Signs of the Wise Book.
                                          Alif, Laam, Raa - The Book whose Signs are made Decisive.
                                          Alif, Laam, Raa - These are the Manifest Signs of the Book.
                                          Alif, Laam, Meem, Raa - These are the Signs of the Book, Revealed.
                                          Alif, Laam, Raa - The Book, Revealing the Light of God.
                                          Alif, Laam, Raa - These are the Signs of the Book, AND A CLEAR QURAN.
                                          Kaf, Ha, Ya, Ain, Saad - Mercy from God to those who follow His servant Zakariah.
                                          Ta, Ha - Quran, to defeat the defeat.
                                          Ta, Seen, Meem - These are the Signs of the Quran, Clear.
                                          Ta, Seen - These are the Signs of Quran, the clear Book.
                                          Ta, Seen, Meem - These are the Signs of the Clear Book.
                                          Alif, Laam, Meem - These are the Signs of the Book of Wisdom
                                          Alif, Laam, Meem - Book of Revelation
                                          Ya, Seen - Quran full of Wisdom
                                          Saad - Quran of Admonition
                                          Ha, Meem - Book of Allah, the Mighty, All Knowing
                                          Ha, Meem - The Revelation from Allah, The Beneficent, The Merciful

                                          Ha, Meem
                                          Ain, Seen, Qaf - Thus does ALLAH, The MIGHTY, THE WISE, REVEAL

                                          Ha, Meem - Allah swears by this Book, that makes things Clear.
                                          Ha, Meem - Allah swears by this Book, that makes things Manifest.
                                          Ha, Meem - Allah's Revelation, the Mighty, the Wise.
                                          Qaf - Quran, Glorious - "I SWEAR!"
                                          Noon - By what you write, it is clear Light, the Noor.

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