If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword
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Salaam Zulf,
Regarding what you said about not being able to feel Allah through science. I think I have to disagree a little with you there. Science has helped me understand a lot on how the realm works. And then I speak of the dynamic functionality of the world. For example, quantum physics was helpful in understanding that the world is actually merely energy (or what to refer to it as). If you make an atom disintegrate (fission) or make a nuclei through fusion, what you gain is an energy discharge. This is how fission/fusion reactors work including the theorized cold-fusion reactor. Although I have heard of a new kind of engine which exhaust would be water (h2o) through a fusion of oxygen and hydrogen. The fusion would create a power surge.
Anyway, what is most interesting is the fact that fission or fusion would cause a discharge of energy. It shows the actual integrity of the atoms because if manipulated and thus disintegrated or joined they would show their charge. It is crazy such a power these phenomena cause.
That is why I would say science can make one believe in GOD. I became with faith through my own contemplation of the exisence rather than religious doctrines and then science played a big role in making me realize the fact there is a "higher power". Sadly people claim that you cannot combine faith and science, but I say you can. Science simply reveals the nature of GOD for the perceptive. I have never been very faithful to religious doctrines and their interpretations of texts and I sense now it has been rewarding. Being sceptical about every single bit of Quranic Arabic knowledge and interpretation was a clear advantage.
Sorry drfazl for polluting your thread with jinn knowledge. I would like nothing rather than being dissolved from the flesh. It is the signs of Allah that are intriguing.
Salaam
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Salam zulf, MoF
For us it is struggle, but to Allah it is easy; let us call upon our Rubb O The Most Easy, there is none to show us the path of Easiness save Thee. When we turn away from Allah,The Most Easy, there are Business everywhere in the process of which we become only busybodies invoking and worshiping all shaitans ante to every Name of Allah, our Rubb.
O Allah, The Most Easy, guide us in the Path of Easiness; not business of the misguided rotten people of the world.
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Salam,
No Problem Man of Faith; there are good Muslim jinns who also belong to us and we good Muslims belong to them. Salam to all of them. Whichever direction or discipline or the science you turn to, there is the Sign of Allah 2/115; some has to go through a struggle to finally find the easy path; some get into the easy path straight away; there is not one direction but countless. To cite, Atheism is the best direction to reach the path of God.
There is no pollution here, MoF; not at all.
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The strength with the scientific method is that it is evidence based. This is how you deduct reality. Unfortunately, people use science to promote their own opinions. They extrapolate and say things that science actually doesn't say.
Science and Divinity are not in disagreement with each other. However, Religion and science may very much be in disagreement with each other, because Religion can be anything you want. Religion and Divinity may also be in disagreement with each other. Religion is often fables.
Science never negates Divinity. Some people may be convinced by science about Divinity, while others will never be convinced, by anything.
Peace
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Scientific evidence only satisfies either one or the other of the five special organs such as eyes, nose, ears, mouth and skin of man but cannot provide its evidence even to all of them let alone if the scientific evidence pleases the live senses of each of those organs; Divinity lies in the Signs of Allah as it creates life and produces liveliness. On the same lines science is akin to the 'material-religion' of ritual worshiping gymnastics without life and liveliness and thus both science and religions are deadly. The Signs create righteousness in you and makes you wholesomely a sensible man.
The important difference between "Sign of Allah" and the 'science of man' is that one has life in it e.g all the creations of God; whereas man's invention is lifeless and are already decomposed decays even at its conceptual stages. Sign is total and wholesome, while the science has to evolve through the millenniums and 'zillenniums' yet, they cannot catch up with the life source. They are dead and false. Science never negates divinity for it accepts and has to accept in the end its worthlessness before the creative strength of the Signs of Allah.
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Cannot hunt in the land But lawful to hunt in the sea
5.96It is made lawful to you to hunt in the sea that which is useful to you and the voyagers; and to eat thereof. But it is unlawful to you to hunt on the land at times when you seek purity to your soul; so fear Allah; and unto Him you will be gathered.
What is the difference between hunting in the sea and hunting in the land; hunting in the sea is allowed and lawful because you and the voyagers on the ship are on a journey to the distant land far away from your homes; your voyager ship shall have rooms for storage of the foods only to contain in just amounts; and the sea is ninety percent more enormous than land and its depth and vastness is incalculable; Allah has graced the sea with such bounties that however much you hunt in it, you cannot pump the sea dry but retire yourself, tired. It is allowed for you to hunt in the sea but unlawful it is to hunt on the land which produces the foods fairly, and justly, and freshly and seasonally - and in bountiful measures for all the people in the world by the command of Allah; one cannot plunder in the land and deprive the rest of the people of their righteous bounties of the land through hunting and squandering - especially when you seek purity to your soul from Allah, in His path.
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Follow Not Mullahs and MoulvisLest we become pagans
7.3 Follow that which is revealed to you from your God; and do not follow any guide@ other than He; very little do you reflect.
@ When it comes to following God and His Book, follow only that which is very clear to your conscience as Revelation of the Truth while in contemplation and introspection; this is the Guidance from the God, direct. This is God?s Way - for only God can teach you His Way; if any one associates allies to God and follows other than Him, they are the polytheists and pagans. Unfortunately very little understand this Guidance while most of them follow their priesthood and their forefathers, thus straying away from their God?s path.
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On the same lines science is akin to the 'material-religion' of ritual worshiping gymnastics without life and liveliness and thus both science and religions are deadly.
Quite on the contrary... neither science, not religion is deadly.
Science provides a methodical approach to study and analyze what we can observe; while religion provides a methodical approach to keep us reminded to have faith in the unobservable. They are complementary to each other. Together they give us the ability to explore the heavens while keeping our feet firmly on the ground.
Deadly is our greed, envy, lust and pride... which provoke us to make the science and religion an excuse to be unfaithful to our God gifted senses of right and wrong.
May Allah guide us all to the straight route.
Regards,
Arman -
Quite on the contrary... neither science, not religion is deadly.... our God gifted senses of right and wrong.
Salam Arman,
If only we use the God gifted sense of appreciation of the right and the wrong, we can definitely differentiate and distinguish between the Signs of Allah and the science of man.
drfazl
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You can follow a person with spiritual insight. It is just that you must choose this person wisely
If he asks you to follow a religion, strange Pagan practices and/or something materialistic it is not the right inspirational source.
I mean, drfazl deems that his view of Quran and the ALLAH phenomenon to be right and tells people to follow him. He would contradict himself if he says no guide can be followed since he tries to guide people into what they should do. Avoid Modern Medicine etc.
But you have to consider very carefully what it is you follow.
Salaam
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I have not been preaching anyone; nor have I been airing out my point of opinion from any remote understanding but that I am citing example of my own how believing in the Signs of Allah above anything else makes one strengthen his insight and broaden his scope to live his moments beyond all science of man. I am stressing and ascertaining the Truth from my living that the Signs of Allah and the Guidance of the Quran is True and there is no human efforts to match it at any given point of time. Again, I am not preaching anyone here for preaching is that which one speaks out as good things when he himself cannot practice it.
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Salaam,
I think your idea of preaching is a bit preconceived. You can teach and also practice what you say even if it happens to be a rare phenomenon among sectarians. Spiritual teachers such as (Isa) did so. Nothing wrong in being a spiritual guide, if you are up to the task and do not merely speak out of own selfishness. One has to be one with ALLAH to do it successfully which means to do as you teach.
You inform people relatively often on this forum and in ways you are trying to teach people, so you do it as well. It is a kind of preacher.
People who are here on this forum and voice their opinions regarding various matters are directly or indirectly preaching, even if it is not their intention. Just airing your opinion in a clearly opinionated way shows preaching. If you are here, promote an idea and seek to make people accept the proposal, then you are indeed preaching.
The question is instead who is a good vs. bad preacher, i.e. voices information, or disinformation even though it might be unintentionally.
Salaam
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Salam,
I believe in Allah alone even to guide the people for, Allah guides whom He is pleased with; those who believe in all humility there is always one above every 'knower' come under the grace and guidance of Allah (12/76 but over every possessor of knowledge is one knowing). Stand as an inspiration by your living, by the leave of Allah and then speak of what you do and of your own example is what Quran prescribes. Quran does not speak about preaching but doing by Allah's leave. From the perspective of Quran I believe in Prophethood and Messengership - but not in priesthood. I will not banish myself by being a preacher.
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Beware of the Chosen People for the Book
7.52 Surely We gave them the Book@; We have revealed it with insightful discernment - a guidance and grace for those who believe.
@ We gave ?them the Book? - who are ?them? here refers to is those 7/48,49 who were given the Book as guidance and grace from Allah and who nevertheless did find themselves in hell. The Book is meant to have their wisdom strengthened through the insight, discernment and revelation therein. But they took the verses of the Book for jest 4/140 and for vain arguments 6/68, treating its verses with their false, prideful worldly knowledge, mostly tending toward the freakish, delusive atmosphere. Such is the plight of certain of the chosen people 7/169; 42/14 whom Allah has identified in Quran. Today such people swarming around us are the self-styled religious scholars, the clergies, the spurious leaders of various religious doctrines. They give out ?fatwas? in this world and for the next world, denying and belying the Truth that to Allah belongs the Last Day and to Him is the Hour of judgment.
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Drfazl,
Then you "guide in (affinity of) ALLAH".
Salaam
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Salam
Man of FaithAllah is pleased with those who turn only to Him for anything and everything, finding Him alone so close to Him - so closely that Allah is nearer than his life itself.
Brother, I think I am trying to answer you; I do not know what you have in mind when you put that question to me; if my answer is incorrect then for my better understanding the question may be rephrased.
drfazl
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Prophet Messenger He is not a lettered-personality like commonplace
7.157 Those who follow the Enlightened@ prophet messenger of Us, will find description of him in their Taurat and Injeel he will enjoin upon them all good deeds and forbid them from evil works; and he will make lawful all good foods; and prevent them the evil foods; and he will lessen their heaviest burdens and remove their slavishness; so whoever believes in him, and dignifies him, and helps him and follows the enlightenment bestowed with him will alone be the victors.
@ The Prophet in the above verse is described as not a believer in the litters of the man invented ?lettered-knowledge?, but a believer in and follower of the Wisdom of Allah; and Allah has granted him what he pursued and thus describes His Prophet-messenger as unlettered but Enlightened.
7.158 Say, ?O mankind, verily I am the messenger to you all from Allah; unto Him belongs the kingdom of the skies and the earth; and there is no God but He; He brings forth life and He causes death - and therefore believe in the Enlightened prophet messenger; and he too believes in Allah and in His Signs; and follow him alone that you may be guided.?
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Peace,
I don't know why you translate l-nabiya l-umiya as the enlightened prophet. In my understanding 'ummy' has no meaning of illiteracy or enlightenment at all.
Crossheck with 320, 622, 278-79
I think those verses will point out to you it can't be translated as enlightened nor illiterate. If it's not obvious to you I will elaborate on the contradiction.
My understanding of 'ummy' is gentile.
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Root likely used; Alif-Meem-Waw, as per ancient lexicon. The root can refer to a female because the word actually means descriptively "be thereof" as indicating wo-man/mother because women give birth and you come out of her as an individual.
According to the lexicons the root can also refer to imitation and mode of being and to "be thereof" as a collective and why ummah has the same originating root. You can easily verify my claim using a lexicon like Lane's.
Any kind of illiteracy or any alike connotations has no basis. The root simply means "of whom one is".
In 7157 the word refers to "those who emulate (imitate) the prophet messenger" in the context. It could give fuel to the sectarian crowd (so-called sunnah), but their derived behavior is taken from fabrications and fabricated interpretations of authentic sources (e.g. Quran).
The interpretation follow/imitate has basis in lexicons and is not my conjecture as people are so prone to accuse me of and so does "to be thereof" (mother).
7157, after further brief analysis, continually speaks of the adherence to what was decreed (maketoba) in all sources of revelation. The decree never changes.
Salaam