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    drfazl
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    This article is in response to God's will - How does it work?
    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605157.msg323104#msg323104

    For years I have spouted the phrase "God is doing everything", and firmly "believed" in it based this on verse such as 817, 5722, and 6411.

    But, I had unanswered questions such as "when a girl is raped, God is doing that?" or "when people are abused or mistreated, God is doing that?". My response was always, "God is doing everything, but nothing bad comes from him." I got this again from Khalifa's interpretation of verses 478-79.

    Many Muslims say "in sha Allah" when talking about the future. I noticed that the command in sura 18 is regarding that you will do something tomorrow, and not necessarily an hour into the future. This makes sense to me as we do not know if we will be alive tomorrow, and that God ultimately controls when our life ends here. However, I would like to know what peoples understanding from the Qur'an is on the subject of God's control in all of our worldly affairs and our day to day well being.

    When the Qur'an says anything good is from God and anything bad is from us, does this mean that our health, wealth, and happiness are all given by God on a daily basis through divine interventions or are the good things we enjoy is a result of using our God given brains and thanking God? On the other side of things, when bad things happen to us like sickness, accidents, falling out with our friends and family members, are these a punishment from God for committing sins, or are they a result of not using our God given brains and being selfish, etc.?

    I once held the belief that God assigns angels to each human to protect them from harm if they are righteous, and these angels basically step aside and let bad things come to us when we sin. I had this understanding again from Khalifa's teachings and interpretations of 1311. Any I believed that when people are bad they "remove themselves from God's protection" and that bad things happen to them because Satan afflicts them, or since they "choose Satan as a lord" he is incapable of taking care of them like God does.

    What does everyone think of these ideas from a Qur'anic perspective. What of divine intervention, miracles, etc.?

    Peace, jtc

    Before the humans were created, and before the earth and the sky were created, and before the earth and the sky are separated from each other, there was an atmosphere of haze and blaze of fire, in the space. While the blazing fire being the source of creation and the abode of Jinns, the haze of smoke is the atmosphere of the jinns to breathe for its living. The Jinns were living in the paradise but in most of their minds were the rejection of God, idolatry, hypocrisy, treacherousness and disbelief. Allah chose messengers from among them too but their admonitions fell in deaf ears and that they only increased their rejection and hypocrisy. Now the warning of Allah finally arrives that if they do not mend and become obedient slaves of Allah, they would be thrown away and would bring a creative generation in their place who would be above them in everything. The messengers from among the Jinns kept bringing to their people, the Quranic ayats and the Signs of Allah, until Allah began unfolding His Design of Man's abode.

    The creation of the earth and the sky was almost a paradise wherein every grace of Allah had been poured in beyond measure and had been a spectacle to the eyes of the Jinns. But as per His Design, Allah placed the human creation on it, the most beautiful dwelling place, the paradise-like; and this was an eyesore for the jinns. Allah said to Man "Go forth in this paradise where you want and eat of what you want but never usurp the timber, meant for all the beings on the earth, induced by the whisperings of shaitaan, lest you should be one of them and thus become of the unjust. Yet man faltered and fell to jinns and became of the rejecters and of the disbelievers and thus became of each other.

    Before Allah conferred and destined the Most Gracious Benevolence upon man i.e., conferring the Reign of Arsh upon the man, He called out to the earth and the skies to come together either willingly or unwillingly in obedience to man. They both said We are willingly coming together for the man. Then Allah ordained upon the skies and the earth, the Quran in detail, with which they both shall assess discreetly and diligently the works of man on the earth in accordance with the Quran in their moment to moment life. Then Allah shaped man to a perfect creation with Criterion i.e., with the ability to distinguishing and taught him the Quran, the Guidance to Justice and with that He set man upon the Arsh.

    55 1 The Most Gracious, The Most Benevolent
    55 2 He taught the Quran to the Arsh, the skies and the earth and everything in between
    55 3 He created man in righteous perfection to handle the Arsh
    55 4 And He taught him the Quran, The Guidance perfect.

    And with this, He raised mankind as Adam and taught him what is in the skies and in the earth and what is in between; and how they would respond to his needs and his actions; if he goes against the Quran, the skies and the earth would not obey him; and if he is in accordance with Quran and fearing Allah, stick to righteousness while seeking forgiveness all the time, then he is upon the Arsh. The heavens and the skies and everything in between would obey his need and orders, and the paradise is for him, ever.

    The instances to this when Ibrahim was thrown into the pit fire, the heat of fire changed to one of cool comfort; when Nuh prayed, the heavens and the earth opened up to drown the world; when Musa cast his shaft, the sea cleaved into two mountainous parts, creating dry land in between; when Dawood made iron into molten fluid; and to Sulaiman, the wind, the birds, the ants, the jinns, the malayika and Allah knows what more were with him - everything from heavens down to earth obeyed to his command. This is because all were upon the Guidance of Quran and the heavens and the skies were taught Quran before and whatever the wish of man, if he is righteous and his life is in accordance with Quran, the skies and the earth come together to deliver him of his want. The Arsh, including the guardians of it, the malayika obey him, by His leave. On the other hand, if man does not follow Quran, then, he shall follow shaitaan and shaitan follows him and pushes him to hell of a life in this world itself.

    And a man's life toggles between the two extreme conditions i.e. between the life of paradise and the life of hell; and struggles through all the mixture between the two, throughout his life. Either he shall rule over the Arsh with Quran, or the Arsh will finish you with earthquakes, volcanos, tsunamis, diseases, famine, floods, blood, madness to say a few.

    45 22 And Allah crated the heavens and the earth on the truthful guidance of Quran, so that every man shall be recompensed for what he did and that they will not be wronged.

    Let us know for sure now, both the jinns in their abode of haze; and the human beings in their abode of clear atmosphere of air living in their respective places for millions of years of generations after generations, usurping the timber and engaging in land grabbing fighting and shedding blood and losing lives over them, all being done in the abode of paradise. Jinns were much pleased to have the men at each other's throat and settled their envy against them for Allah having designed such a beautiful place as dwelling place for the human beings. Allah is well-aware of what is in their hearts.

    Allah's next design is to reveal the supremacy of the man, created of the muddy-clay, against the jinns created of the blaze of fire. Toward this end, the jinns had in their hearts, the evil racist discrimination and always looked down upon man; and having made men fall to their inducements they were content with their blood-shed and losses of their lives. Allah said to the assembly of Malayika and Jinns I am going to place man on the earth as My viceroy; and all of you have to serve the man.

    While the Malayikas obeyed Allah and obeyed His Will, the jinns said "Are you going to place as Your Viceroy, such as these on the earth who cause mischief and shed blood, while we praise your glory and purify Your Names?" Allah said, "You know not what I know." Then Allah taught man all that is in the heavens and in the earth and everything in between and thus brought everything under man's command. This teaching to man of the wisdom of power includes the knowledge of Malayika; the inns and out of, who and what the jinns are; and how to bring them all under man's control and obedience by the leave of Allah. Knowing very well the disobedience of the jinns Allah brings man before the jinns and malayikas for the test. The ignorance and the inferiority of the jinns before man were made clear to both the malayika and the jinns. The malayika began obeying the man, but the jinns under the command of Iblis, the leader of the jinns, disobeyed; and Allah was keenly watching this disobedience of jinns.

    Allah waited relenting and forgiving the jinns and Iblis, for a long time as it is not His Way to punish then and there for the sins but destines a term appointed. The appointed time came and the jinns were brought before Adam, the knowledgeable Man, the Viceroy of Allah on the Earth, before the assembly of malayika and Allah said to the jinns "O Jinns! Why did you not obey the command of Man while I ordered you to do so." To this the leader among the rejecting jinn community, Iblis said "I am not obey the man; see how measly-looking he is; I am not to obey a man who is created out of clay while I was created out of the blaze of fire; and I am superior to him." At this point Allah said "Are you proud to say so? If that be it there is no place for such arrogant proud in this paradise. Stay out of my blessed place, you Iblis, as shaitaan! Thus the proud, arrogant and racist people became the companions of shaitaan on the earth.

    Allah created the earth in the space and cleared the haze, the major area of the dwelling place of Jinns, into clear atmosphere of air for man to breathe his life energy. The haze for jinn's life, and the clear space of air for the man's life are thus separated. In the clear space and air, the Jinns would choke to death; and in the haze and smoke men would choke to death. One cannot seek the guidance from the other. Yet, the men who always sought and acquired the power of fire, and the knowledge of fire from the jinns which ranges from the voodoo and witchcraft to technology of science that which involves the fiery force of heat and fire which is nothing but terrible speed and absolute destruction.

    As man's soul has the capacity to imbibe the cosmic wisdom, to keep up his command over the entire creative force from heavens down to earth, given only to drive the shaitaans away from the vicinity of the earth's atmosphere, he shall live with fear for Allah, seeking forgiveness all the while we are conscious. If we fall to the inducements of shaitaan, he will get closest to you showing his glamorous material scientific knowledge and enticing you with his fire technology to the utter destruction of the world. Now for man, it is his choice between the knowledge of shaitan, the science of destruction of the worldly wealth, or the Wisdom of Allah that would elevate your dwelling place, the earth, to the glory of a paradise.

    Men among humans mostly had secret dealings with the men among the jinns for all destructive activities only to unjustly rule over the fellow human beings, towards which cause the jinns helped the men a lot by causing hatred and divisions among the humans. Because jinn have such physical speed and ability, taught them all the fiery things and fiery mentality. The human beings slowly gained mastery over all the evils of shaitan, and fell a prey to them and also fell prostrated before them as Gods. Thus the temples, mosques and churches and various other places of worship began under the auspices of satans, the worst disbelievers and the leaders among the jinns. In such worshiping places of satans, the fire and smoke is essential for them to survive; so in temples of Hindus, alighting and worshiping of fire is an essential part of prayer; in Churches, alighting candle is an integral aspect of worshiping; and in most mosques of eastern countries the smoke of various scented incense sticks is burnt while chanting rhymes in praise of Muhammad.

    fazlur rahman

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      Follow Only Allah and His Wisdom

      The minds of most men were infested with hatred and rejection of The Almighty, by one's own evil force, The Pride. The pride of their knowledge and know how, obtained through science and technology. The knowledge is the beginning of knowing about certain gross elemental features of the living things around us, which we constantly used to see for a considerable period of time, until our mind begins questions like "wherefrom it is; and why it is; and what ii is" in every stage of its origin, to growth, till the point of its death and extinction. All these questions take you in two opposing and different directions. One, moves your thoughts in the direction from the visibility of their birth, their growth to their death. And the other, in the direction of the Life force and the Creative wisdom with a single question, 'wherefrom the unit of any matter came into being, with its life and grace.

      The instant direction of thought is the evil induced impulse it pushes your direction of observation, analysis of the living manifestations toward their growth, their decline, their death and their extinction. This is scientific methodology of knowing of things; this scientific study is otherwise called medically as double blind methodology of compare and contrast. In this study they merely hypothesise and postulate based on their best imaginary ability to falsely link their own controversies to summarise and conclude their stories; the more convincing their inventive stories are, the better are their papers acknowledged as 'the best', of the submitted ones; they are awarded PhD, the doctorate title. These are submitters to falsehood.

      This direction of knowledge will lead them to millions of inventions of matters and materials that has no life; it is dead matter already, like the recent invention, 'robot' for example. Thus every invention is deadly to the human society. This is one way the most, and the 'most majority way' of the people of the entire world. It is like a spell cast n the society.

      When we meet with a dead end, we return to the Creative Power in prayer without even knowing where we turn to. The prayer would be of use to us only when we spend our life time reflecting on all living matters such as the earth, the sky, the planets, the sun, the moon, the stars and everything from heavens down to earth, and pondering upon these as to how they took to living form and matters. This is the way to the Creative Power of Wisdom, the Godly Way. These are the people who submit to the Truth.

      If you follow the Way to Wisdom, God's power is nearest to you; if you are proud and arrogant to follow the way to knowledge, you have to strive hard for your living, toiling under the spell of your own imaginary, deadly inventive world. The skies and the earth and everything in between will straiten your heart and make your life miserable and distressed.

      1. And if you follow the way of most of those in the earth, they will lead you to knowledge from Wisdom of Allah; they follow but inventions and they only imagine.
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        Dear DrFazl,

        Peace be upon you, My eyes filled with droplets of tears by Reading the truth. How Great the Almighty and How HE reveals the Truth through selected people and welcomes HIS Wisdom Paradise.. . Really the Creation of Jinn and Man wit relevant to Quran... Its Amazing. In fact out MIND is Projected into Universe.....Gods Blessings on You.... And People will follow you and thanking Allah.... In fact the Most Knowing and Most forgiving.....And Most Loving to Human Beings.... How HE has Created the Universe and the Man forgetting HIS Blessings ....

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          spodacus
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          Salam all,

          I agree 100% that the ultimate Decider in our fate/destiny is Allah. However, I think we should not easily discard the gifts that Allah has bestowed upon us such as the advancements in sciences and especially modern medicine.

          Does Allah not advocate learning in the Qu'ran? Doesn't He want us to be knowledgeable and to use that knowledge to benefit us? Aren't we to be appreciate of any blessings He has given us (such as medical advancements)? Does He allow us to prohibit anything that isn't specifically prohibited in Qu'ran (are hospital visits prohibited)? Does Allah not mention curatives such as honey in the Qu'ran? Finally, aren't there numerous believers in this field of work?

          Of course disbelievers will flock to these blessings from Allah and abuse it to elongate their life as much as possible, but no one is asking us to follow that type of example.

          P.S. - I am biased, my wife is a doctor ;D

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            Dear spodacus,
            It will take another 50,000 years or more to understand the truth. All the Doctors put together, can they create a fly?. and they boast aas if they are are life providers. If you support your wife then you are liking HELL since all the doctors paving the way to HELL as they shirk one of GODs property as Life Giver...

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                  salaam

                  Exactly, that is for us to find out from al-kitaab insha allaah.

                  All the best to you insha allaah
                  peace

                  It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a messenger to reveal, with Allah's permission, what Allah wills for He is Most High, Most Wise. 4251

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                    Dear spodacus,
                    It will take another 50,000 years or more to understand the truth. All the Doctors put together, can they create a fly?. and they boast aas if they are are life providers. If you support your wife then you are liking HELL since all the doctors paving the way to HELL as they shirk one of GODs property as Life Giver...

                    Salam, you are welcome to your opinion, but please be wary of generalizations. I've never heard a doctor boast to be a "life provider." Most of the doctors I know just want to help people (and helping people is an attribute of the righteous). I have skills and knowledge in electrical engineering myself, so I use those skills to help people. My wife has skills and knowledge about the development and stability within the human body. When she observes an abnormality within the body, is she not required to alert the patient? How can she stand in front of Allah on the Day of Judgement and say that she did not use her God given skills in the cause of Allah?

                    When there is an unbalance within the human body, a doctor can check that through a blood test, for example. Now, here is the interesting part, most of those unbalancing are usually due to the patient not following Allah's law. For example, I myself have high cholesterol which I get check from time to time. Why do I have high cholesterol? Because I am not following Allah's guidance that we need to eat the "good foods" (i.e. healthy food, 55). A doctor pointed out the unbalance in my body, and I used that information to reflect back to Allah's guidance.

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                      1. And if you follow the way of most of those in the earth, they will lead you to knowledge from Wisdom of Allah; they follow but inventions and they only imagine.

                      It is amazing how many of the verses of the quran can be understood in many different contexts and levels, equally fitting and precise. All praise be to the God!

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                        drfazl
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                        It is amazing how many of the verses of the quran can be understood in many different contexts and levels, equally fitting and precise. All praise be to the God!

                        If Quran is 'The Guide' for all people of all time, then Quran shall be revealing and revealing endlessly to any person, elevating him his latter positions better than his positions earlier; and raise him in degrees better by the second in each man's life span of 83 years. The context of a man is all that which he possesses in his heart, as good or Godly intentions for his tomorrow. In this way every single ayat will unfold 7 billion revelations, to each individual, by the second. And a single verse of Quran does not contradict the other explicitly 6000 odd vivid verses. Thus all the verses together shall strengthen the Truth and the context of a single event, that shall happen in any given moment in each one of 7 billion.

                        The Seas of water as inks and the fibres of the trees as pens would not be sufficient to reveal the verses of Quran through human languages- this is the most gruesome approach to understand The Revelation of Allah.

                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg322753#msg322753

                        Peace

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                          Salam, you are welcome to your opinion, but please be wary of generalizations. I've never heard a doctor boast to be a "life provider." Most of the doctors I know just want to help people (and helping people is an attribute of the righteous). I have skills and knowledge in electrical engineering myself, so I use those skills to help people. My wife has skills and knowledge about the development and stability within the human body. When she observes an abnormality within the body, is she not required to alert the patient? How can she stand in front of Allah on the Day of Judgement and say that she did not use her God given skills in the cause of Allah?

                          When there is an unbalance within the human body, a doctor can check that through a blood test, for example. Now, here is the interesting part, most of those unbalancing are usually due to the patient not following Allah's law. For example, I myself have high cholesterol which I get check from time to time. Why do I have high cholesterol? Because I am not following Allah's guidance that we need to eat the "good foods" (i.e. healthy food, 55). A doctor pointed out the unbalance in my body, and I used that information to reflect back to Allah's guidance.

                          Read This Ayath 2680 And when I am ill, it is He who cures me

                          Read this and Ponder on this. Where is a Doctor treating Patients. Its GOD who treats the patient. Doctors just do the reverse thinking that they are doing good. Shaitan is Playing a Major Role among the Doctors. The English name for Doctor has to be changed as Dogtor.... Yes.... When Allah is curing what is the Role of Doctors other than increasing or introducing new diseases.

                          If they keep mum the Society will flourish...

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                            Read This Ayath 2680 And when I am ill, it is He who cures me

                            Read this and Ponder on this. Where is a Doctor treating Patients. Its GOD who treats the patient. Doctors just do the reverse thinking that they are doing good. Shaitan is Playing a Major Role among the Doctors. The English name for Doctor has to be changed as Dogtor.... Yes.... When Allah is curing what is the Role of Doctors other than increasing or introducing new diseases.

                            If they keep mum the Society will flourish...

                            Salam, you are entitled to your opinion, but my opinion is that you are reading the Sura too literally. For example read 2679 ("Who gives me food and drink,&quot. If you read it literally it sounds like Allah send down food and drink automatically from Heaven to feed you. Maybe it is the case for you, May Allah bless you. But for me and probably many others, this verse means that Allah has established certain plants and animals that FARMERS and HERDERS raise, and by Allah's grace we have access to those items.

                            Same with 2680 ("And when I am ill, it is He Who cures me;&quot. Maybe you and some other people who are blessed by Allah, He is directly curing you with His Grace. But for myself and probably others, this verse means that Allah has unlocked the mysteries of human health and medicine which doctors have learned and now we have access to. I think most of the time this is the case.

                            Finally, let us not forget that Death is a good thing, sometimes we don't need any healing. Remember as a Muslim, you should look forward to the day you die, as you will be reunited with Allah. So don't get too carried away with healing and health issues, we all die eventually. ;D

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                              Salaam Spodacus

                              Just to add further, we need to consult to the Quran as what Allah mean's by Cure/Healing or "SHAFA"

                              And if We had made it a non-Arabic Qur'an, they would have said, "Why are its verses not explained in detail ? Is it a foreign and an Arab ?" Say, "It is, for those who believe, a guidance and cure." And those who do not believe - in their ears is deafness, and it is upon them blindness. Those are being called from a distant place. 4144

                              And We send down of the Qur'an that which is healing and mercy for the believers, but it does not increase the wrongdoers except in loss. 1782

                              Peace

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                                Salaam,

                                I think it would be harsh to call doctors pawns of the devil. If you rely on God for minor affections solely, then fine, but consider you break your leg, will you wait for God to heal it?

                                If you get acute diarrhea, will you wait until you die from dehydration, because your body cannot absorb more water?

                                Doctors are just workers like anyone else, some are greedy, but some are really generous and helpful people. They fix your bone if you break it, they give you remedies when you get an affliction. Does it make them workers of evil?

                                God created the substances used in the drugs, why not use the good things of what He created? He has warned us about making prohibitions.

                                The doctors work in the world that God created, using His tools and His substances. God has done all the work already, the doctors just administer the drugs and correct fractures etc, nothing to get hysterical about. It could be considered charity work, helping those who would otherwise die, just like helping poor people from starvation.

                                Of course, dieing would be a great blessing for a true Believer, and nothing can prevent it, if it is His Will. But letting yourself die by refusing drugs or other remedies is like staying on a railroad and being run over by a train because you do not feel like moving out of danger.

                                Consider you study herbal medicine and administer drugs on yourself, are you doing Satan's work? Think that you will not die from the ailment, but you take the herbs to relieve your pain, is that works of evil?

                                In the case of a doctor, these people just do the work for you and they are more educated in this profession.

                                Now, I do not mean it is not God who heals us, it is He who controls every atom of this universe, He determines the effect of the administered drugs. He can render a remedy useless and take you back to Him if He so desires. Or He can miraculously have you wake up from death on a hospital bed, if He so wills. Have you not seen people who wake up when doctors have declared them dead, and then recover fully? This is God?s doing. It is a sign for the intelligent.

                                Doctors can only work as far as our comprehension goes, but in some cases everything relies on God. By the way, everything relies on God, doctors just administer a remedy and hope for the best out of experience. Putting a broken leg back into position is pretty primitive and patching it up with surgery is like handicraft.

                                Professional help does not mean we should not implore God about our affliction, it is the most righteous thing to do and it shows that we know we are in His hands. We should know that it is by His will we recover, He can put us to death even from a pretty minor disease or we can simply depart from our bodies during sleep for no apparent reason.

                                This is my philosophical thinking regarding getting help from people such as doctors, and I respect your opinions about the same topic. I fully respect those who abstain from any external treatment of their bodies due to their belief system and I can in ways understand the argument. I have been thinking about the same thing regarding myself. But I would not call medicine a Satanic practice.

                                My article shows that I believe it is God who is the healer of ailments and the medical staff are just simple workers helping do God's work, knowingly or unknowingly. Doctors cannot prevent an individual's death, if God so wishes.

                                God bless you

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                                  Salaam Spodacus

                                  Just to add further, we need to consult to the Quran as what Allah mean's by Cure/Healing or "SHAFA"

                                  And if We had made it a non-Arabic Qur'an, they would have said, "Why are its verses not explained in detail ? Is it a foreign and an Arab ?" Say, "It is, for those who believe, a guidance and cure." And those who do not believe - in their ears is deafness, and it is upon them blindness. Those are being called from a distant place. 4144

                                  And We send down of the Qur'an that which is healing and mercy for the believers, but it does not increase the wrongdoers except in loss. 1782

                                  Peace

                                  Salam, are these verses related to spiritual healing (i.e. of our soul)? I agree that no doctor or human being can heal or purify our souls. Only Allah can do that for us

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                                    spodacus
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                                    Salaam,

                                    I think it would be harsh to call doctors pawns of the devil. If you rely on God for minor affections solely, then fine, but consider you break your leg, will you wait for God to heal it?

                                    If you get acute diarrhea, will you wait until you die from dehydration, because your body cannot absorb more water?

                                    Doctors are just workers like anyone else, some are greedy, but some are really generous and helpful people. They fix your bone if you break it, they give you remedies when you get an affliction. Does it make them workers of evil?

                                    God created the substances used in the drugs, why not use the good things of what He created? He has warned us about making prohibitions.

                                    The doctors work in the world that God created, using His tools and His substances. God has done all the work already, the doctors just administer the drugs and correct fractures etc, nothing to get hysterical about. It could be considered charity work, helping those who would otherwise die, just like helping poor people from starvation.

                                    Of course, dieing would be a great blessing for a true Believer, and nothing can prevent it, if it is His Will. But letting yourself die by refusing drugs or other remedies is like staying on a railroad and being run over by a train because you do not feel like moving out of danger.

                                    Consider you study herbal medicine and administer drugs on yourself, are you doing Satan's work? Think that you will not die from the ailment, but you take the herbs to relieve your pain, is that works of evil?

                                    In the case of a doctor, these people just do the work for you and they are more educated in this profession.

                                    Now, I do not mean it is not God who heals us, it is He who controls every atom of this universe, He determines the effect of the administered drugs. He can render a remedy useless and take you back to Him if He so desires. Or He can miraculously have you wake up from death on a hospital bed, if He so wills. Have you not seen people who wake up when doctors have declared them dead, and then recover fully? This is God?s doing. It is a sign for the intelligent.

                                    Doctors can only work as far as our comprehension goes, but in some cases everything relies on God. By the way, everything relies on God, doctors just administer a remedy and hope for the best out of experience. Putting a broken leg back into position is pretty primitive and patching it up with surgery is like handicraft.

                                    Professional help does not mean we should not implore God about our affliction, it is the most righteous thing to do and it shows that we know we are in His hands. We should know that it is by His will we recover, He can put us to death even from a pretty minor disease or we can simply depart from our bodies during sleep for no apparent reason.

                                    This is my philosophical thinking regarding getting help from people such as doctors, and I respect your opinions about the same topic. I fully respect those who abstain from any external treatment of their bodies due to their belief system and I can in ways understand the argument. I have been thinking about the same thing regarding myself. But I would not call medicine a Satanic practice.

                                    My article shows that I believe it is God who is the healer of ailments and the medical staff are just simple workers helping do God's work, knowingly or unknowingly. Doctors cannot prevent an individual's death, if God so wishes.

                                    God bless you

                                    Salam, I agree with you 100%. Why not accept and utilize the blessings from Allah that He has bestowed upon us? Allah wants us (believers) to have a happy healthy life and insh'Allah even better rewards in the Hereafter. )

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                                      Salam, are these verses related to spiritual healing (i.e. of our soul)? I agree that no doctor or human being can heal or purify our souls. Only Allah can do that for us )

                                      Salaam

                                      Yes it was spiritual healing, but this is one physical afflictions. (Musibah)

                                      In no way is there an affliction that afflicts in the earth or in yourselves, except (that) it is in a Book even before We initiated it- surely that is easy for Allah 5722

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                                        Salam, are these verses related to spiritual healing (i.e. of our soul)? I agree that no doctor or human being can heal or purify our souls. Only Allah can do that for us )

                                        Peace spodacus

                                        41/44 is refering to the Quran.

                                        SHAKIR And if We had made it a Quran in a foreign tongue, they would certainly have said
                                        Why have not its communications been made clear? What! a foreign (tongue) and an Arabian! Say
                                        It is to those who believe a guidance and a healing; and (as for) those who do not believe, there is a
                                        heaviness in their ears and it is obscure to them; these shall be called to from a far-off place.

                                        God has given us brains to learn, this gives us purpose, things to strive for, to solve our problems.
                                        God has given us intellect to figure things out rather they be health, political, social, interpersonal
                                        etc., we are to work for peace in this life, while it will be granted to those who strive for it in the next.

                                        GOD is the Creator of all things, and He is in full control of all things.

                                        peace

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                                          Salam, you are entitled to your opinion, but my opinion is that you are reading the Sura too literally. For example read 2679 ("Who gives me food and drink,&quot. If you read it literally it sounds like Allah send down food and drink automatically from Heaven to feed you. Maybe it is the case for you, May Allah bless you. But for me and probably many others, this verse means that Allah has established certain plants and animals that FARMERS and HERDERS raise, and by Allah's grace we have access to those items.

                                          Same with 2680 ("And when I am ill, it is He Who cures me;&quot. Maybe you and some other people who are blessed by Allah, He is directly curing you with His Grace. But for myself and probably others, this verse means that Allah has unlocked the mysteries of human health and medicine which doctors have learned and now we have access to. I think most of the time this is the case.

                                          Finally, let us not forget that Death is a good thing, sometimes we don't need any healing. Remember as a Muslim, you should look forward to the day you die, as you will be reunited with Allah. So don't get too carried away with healing and health issues, we all die eventually. ;D

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                                          And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah . They follow not except assumption, and they are not but falsifying.

                                          You your self has give answers as "many others". in your reply.Please check your Post.
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