Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. General Issues / Questions
  3. General Issues / Questions
  4. :: alAakhirat or Qayaamat? ::

:: alAakhirat or Qayaamat? ::

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Issues / Questions
13 Posts 5 Posters 144 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • B Offline
    B Offline
    Bender
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    Salaam brother,

    You haven't checked and you liked this post mashaAllah. Have you at least read it? hmm

    Thank you very much brother for your positive response.

    May Allah bless you,
    mmKhan

    Salaam brother,

    No, I did not check all the 115 occurences of the word "alAakhirat" and the 70 occurences of "Yawm al qayaamat".
    But I judged it with what I recall from memory.
    If I come across something that in my eyes contradict your understanding then InshaAllah I will for sure point it out to you, but for the moment you are save for my critic.

    May Allah bless you,
    Bender

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • M Offline
      M Offline
      mmkhan
      wrote on last edited by
      #5

      Salaam brother,

      No, I did not check all the 115 occurences of the word "alAakhirat" and the 70 occurences of "Yawm al qayaamat".
      But I judged it with what I recall from memory.
      If I come across something that in my eyes contradict your understanding then InshaAllah I will for sure point it out to you, but for the moment you are save for my critic.

      May Allah bless you,
      Bender

      Salaam bro,

      Thank God, I am safe...

      Thank you and may Allah bless you,
      mmKhan

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • U Offline
        U Offline
        unknownuser
        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        Salaam,

        ) Very nicely written, and easily understood. I come across many muslims that believe that every deed they do is being tallied up only for the day of judgement. Not often do they say that will suffer the consequences or reap rewards for those deeds in this lifetime.

        Thank you for pointing out the difference.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • M Offline
          M Offline
          mmkhan
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          Salaam,

          ) Very nicely written, and easily understood. I come across many muslims that believe that every deed they do is being tallied up only for the day of judgement. Not often do they say that will suffer the consequences or reap rewards for those deeds in this lifetime.

          Thank you for pointing out the difference.

          Salaam,

          Thank you very much for your kind words handshake Yes, I agree with you 100% on what you wrote.

          May Allah bless you and increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
          mmKhan

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • G Offline
            G Offline
            God_alone 0
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            Salaam,

            InshaAllah, with the permission of my Lord, Allah, we will see what means.

            The word "alAakhirat" or is used almost 115 times in alQuraan and it is never used to refer to the Day of Judgment or . I would be happy if anyone could point me that it is used to refer to "the Day of Judgement" in any aayat. "Yawm al qayaamat" or is the word used for the Day of Judgment and it is always used with the word "yawm" which means "period or day" unlike "alAakhirat" which used in both ways, with and without the word "yawm".

            is used about 70 times in alQuraan which only refers to "the Day of Judgement", I am not going into details of it now, what it means and how it is derived. But we will be talking about today, inshaAllah.

            When already a word is used to refer to the Day of Judgement, then why another word is used to refer the same? Many of us think that or "alAakhirat" is also used to refer to the Day of Judgement, but this is not the case.

            Surprisingly, I don't find any aayat, asking you to believe in may be because, it is not possible for everyone to believe in such. But we can find several aayaats that ask us to believe in , so what is this word mean, how and why should we believe in it?

            = Next time . Please click here to understand why "AL" is added.

            177
            177 "If you do good, you do good for your ownselves, and if you do evil, it is against yourselves." Then, when the next promise came to pass, to make your faces sorrowful and to enter the mosque as they had entered it before, and to destroy with utter destruction all that fell in their hands.

            Please read these aayaats from 174-7 to understand its context and the use of word in 177. Please click here to see other translations of this word in 177.

            We have seen above that simply means "Next time" but only in this world, it is not referring to "Next life after death". Based on formulations fixed in alQuraan/alKitaab for us, we have to believe in . For example we will take above mentioned aayat

            177 ...
            177 If you do good, you do good for your ownselves, and if you do evil, it is against yourselves....

            Here we have to believe that if we do good now, we will get a good result in , that could be after a day, or a month, or an hour, or a year... could be any period of time. Same goes for bad, believing in the result that we will get as we do in this life, IS believing in or alAakhirat.

            People rush for everything as they are going to lose it, so these people actually don't believe in , if we do something, then we have to be patient to get its results. In this way you are not only believing in alAakhirat but you are also believing in Allah as a Judge for your and your deeds. You are believing that Allah sees everything what we do or say and He will respond to that in this life. Lets take a look at another aayat.

            1718
            1718 Whoever should desire the immediate - We hasten for him from it what We will to whom We intend. Then We have made for him Hell , which he will burn, censured and banished.

            Do you see what is wrong in desiring anything immediately? In contrast to this another aayat came.

            1719
            1719 But whoever desires alAakhirat and exerts the effort due to it while he is a believer - it is those whose effort is ever appreciated.

            When you compare both aayaats, you will understand how "alAakhirat" is used more clearly, inshaAllah. Furthermore...

            1720
            1720 To each we extend - to these and to those - from the gift of your Lord. And never has the gift of your Lord been restricted.

            used twice in this aayat, one refers to people who hasten, other refers to people who desire for the next time and wait.

            1721
            1721 Look how We have favored some of them over others. But the next time is greater in degrees and greater in distinction.

            Many of them don't believe in alAakhirat and who do believe in it are the believers of this Book as per 692

            692
            692 And this is a Book which We have sent down, blessed and confirming what was before it, that you may warn the Mother of Cities and those around it. Those who believe in alAakhirat believe in it, and they are maintaining their prayers.

            24
            24 And who believe in what has been revealed to you, and what was revealed before you, and of alAakhirat they are certain.

            You will find many aayaats about believing in alAakhirat but you will never find any asking you to believe in . Because we can see and then believe in alAakhirat. This proves that everything written in alQuraan is so logical and straight forward that no one need to believe in anything blindly. AlhamduliAllah hail

            Hope I tried to make you understand what I mean, inshaAllah. All comments, critics, suggestions, help, corrections are welcome.

            Note Please make sure that this is my personal understanding, please check all the aayaats quoted in here and check other aayaats as well to compare and see the usage of word alAakhirat and don't forget to seek Allah's help for correct understanding.

            May Allah increase us in knowledge and guides us to His only path pr
            mmKhan

            Salaam.

            This is very interesting topic. I do agree that means the Day of Judgment.

            However, doesn't mean the Day of Judgment. God wouldn't say "believe in the Judgment Day" He means the Hereafter. The disbelievers do not believe when they die they won't be resurrected and live in another life. They only believe one life -This life- and thus they enjoy this life while they are thinking they won't be resurrected by Allah or go to Hereafter. See 307? It says they only care about this life (Ad-dunya) while they are heedless of Hereafter Allah will increase His bounty to the believers in Hereafter as it state in 1721 )

            Although, to my knowledge of understanding this verse 177, I first need to read the beginning of that Surah in order to see the point. 177 is talking about the Children of Israel. Allah is saying from 174 that they (The children of Israel) will commit a gross evil on this Earth, twice -Marratayni- (175) The first time, the servants of Allah will invade their homes. (176) After that, Allah will give them a turn over them. (177) When the second time comes to pass they will be defeated while entering the Masjid like they did the first time. This time is mentioned but by referring to when the second time comes to pass.

            I really hope you understand the explanations that I have provided it to you. InshaAllah, I am right. P

            peace

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • G Offline
              G Offline
              God_alone 0
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              Salaam.

              I just realised I made some typos in my previous post (lol).

              I meant to say the disbelievers believe they won't be Resurrected after they die.

              peace

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • M Offline
                M Offline
                mmkhan
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                Salaam.

                I just realised I made some typos in my previous post (lol).

                I meant to say the disbelievers believe they won't be Resurrected after they die.

                peace

                Salaam bro,

                Thanks for correcting it and also for your message. Try replacing the words from

                "...When the second time comes to pass..."

                with

                "...When the next time comes to pass..."

                and you will see it more clearly inshaAllah.

                May Allah bless you,
                mmKhan

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • J Offline
                  J Offline
                  justamuslim
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  Ok, I am all lost here. I tried to follow but got lost. So alakhirat is not referring to judgement day? Hmmm... Now, you got me thinking.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • G Offline
                    G Offline
                    God_alone 0
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    Salaam bro,

                    Thanks for correcting it and also for your message. Try replacing the words from

                    "...When the second time comes to pass..."

                    with

                    "...When the next time comes to pass..."

                    and you will see it more clearly inshaAllah.

                    May Allah bless you,
                    mmKhan

                    Salaam

                    Thanks for your explanation. And you are welcome.

                    Forgive me but I would like to discuss this further. I've came across the Surah of 58 verse 22

                    ?You will not find people who believe in GOD and the Last Day befriending those who oppose GOD and His messenger, even if they were their parents, or their children, or their siblings, or their tribe. For these, He decrees faith into their hearts, and supports them with inspiration from Him, and admits them into gardens with flowing streams wherein they abide forever. GOD is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. These are the party of GOD. Most assuredly, GOD's party are the winners.? -5822

                    Allah mentions in this Ayah which means the Last Day. Could this mean that (last day) and (the resurrection day) have the same meaning? If you look at in that Verse, it didn't end with '' . What is your understanding according to this Verse? And what is your understanding of the meanings of and ? confused

                    I now understand that is referring to the Hereafter, which includes the Resurrection Day, Hell and Jannah. I should not have said that Allah didn't say to believe in the resurrection day, I was wrong. May Allah forgive me. This is because (Hereafter) is referring to the Resurrection Day, Hell and Jannah (all together). I will continue doing some research on this, InshaAllah.

                    May Allah forgive me if I've said any error from the Quran and increase my knowledge. pr

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • U Offline
                      U Offline
                      unknownuser
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      Salaam mmkhan

                      Unfortunately you didn't gave explanation for what's "next time" means.
                      Maybe you can see my thread http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605995.0.

                      Quran have many synonym words, like the word Rabb in Surah Jusuf, the word Kitab (Please Read).

                      Pleace notice this.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      Reply
                      • Reply as topic
                      Log in to reply
                      • Oldest to Newest
                      • Newest to Oldest
                      • Most Votes


                      • Login

                      • Don't have an account? Register

                      • Login or register to search.
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      0
                      • Categories
                      • Recent
                      • Users