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wa "alaykum-us-salaam brother al-amiyr and every one
I think we must not waste any more time on Stops, who has tried to hijacked our very important journey. He must not succeed in slowing us down or dirverting our topic to him. The best thing to do is to ignore
Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of daybreak
From the evil of that which He createdSalaam
wa "alaykum-us-salaam
I agree with you sister farida. I will henceforward ignore him. I had a brother of the forum showed me via PM where the ignore list is and that is where he will be placed inshaa allaah.
+salaam
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What a lie. You have consistently taken al-amiyrs work out of context and presented it as what he said. All the evidence is here for all to see.
Well thank you for joining in. Let's see if you are better than al-amiyr. Please present one statement I have taken out of context. If the evidence is there, bring it on.
What I have done is shown al-amiyr his frequent mistakes and inconsistencies. He does not answer questions as it seems he does not understand the topic and is unable to answer. Maybe you can help him out and explain that an infinite line in both directions has no starting point.
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wa "alaykum-us-salaam
I agree with you sister farida. I will henceforward ignore him. I had a brother of the forum showed me via PM where the ignore list is and that is where he will be placed inshaa allaah.
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Well done, you are learning. But you can no longer claim that you answer all questions. Your illogical thinking coming through.
It also shows your dishonesty as you only allow yay-sayers and censor any criticism. Way to go.
Now this is a sign of psychological aberration. Is this not a declaration of war against me.
Really? Well, I did and after I published my video on you 1000s are laughing about you.
I will ever forgive this guy for causing so much harm in the way of discussing Islaam.
Wrong again! I am discussing people and their comments, not Islam.
No, wrong once again. I am not radical, just passionate about the truth. You are not. You just write whatever pleases you, whether it is right or wrong is irrelevant to you. If anyone points out the truth you apply censorship. Pathetic.
Have I insulted anyone here? No. Who has insulted others? YOU. and then you start a flame war and attempt to incite hate towards all atheists, only because you can't handle my criticism.
Do I accuse all Muslims of foolishness because you are one? You are a hypocrite and deceive others. Well, it seems you enjoy this. And there are others here, who don't see you for what you are.
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Well thank you for joining in. Let's see if you are better than al-amiyr. Please present one statement I have taken out of context. If the evidence is there, bring it on.
What I have done is shown al-amiyr his frequent mistakes and inconsistencies. He does not answer questions as it seems he does not understand the topic and is unable to answer. Maybe you can help him out and explain that an infinite line in both directions has no starting point.
Firstly I cannot talk on behalf of al-amiyr. Secondly I can try to give you answers as far as I have read and studied from him in this forum.
Why can you not be as civil other times as you are now? It could be that you could make valid contributions. But it seems as if you are out to provoke.
After I have attended to the little girl i will get back to you.
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It also shows your dishonesty as you only allow yay-sayers and censor any criticism. Way to go.
Really? Well, I did and after I published my video on you 1000s are laughing about you.
Wrong again! I am discussing people and their comments, not Islam.
No, wrong once again. I am not radical, just passionate about the truth. You are not. You just write whatever pleases you, whether it is right or wrong is irrelevant to you. If anyone points out the truth you apply censorship. Pathetic.
Have I insulted anyone here? No. Who has insulted others? YOU. and then you start a flame war and attempt to incite hate towards all atheists, only because you can't handle my criticism.
Do I accuse all Muslims of foolishness because you are one? You are a hypocrite and deceive others. Well, it seems you enjoy this. And there are others here, who don't see you for what you are.
There might be some objective value in those words if one cares to look at them objectively enough.
Could you please point where one might see that video if that is possible at all? Thanx.
We all know that God did not destroy any unbeliever or sinner, and there were much worse ones before and after, always, so, I really do not understand why do some people assume almost the authority of God in judging people, after the great prophet and the Messiah Isa/Jehoshua clearly told us not to judge!... because...
Matthew 71-6
New International Version (NIV)
7 ?Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.3 ?Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother?s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ?Let me take the speck out of your eye,? when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother?s eye.
6 ?Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
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Really? Well, I did and after I published my video on you 1000s are laughing about you.
This really shows your character.
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We all know that God did not destroy any unbeliever or sinner, and there were much worse ones before and after, always, so, I really do not understand why do some people assume almost the authority of God in judging people, after the great prophet and the Messiah Isa/Jehoshua clearly told us not to judge!... because...
Matthew 71-6
New International Version (NIV)
7 ?Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.Salaam
There is a clear difference between airing your views and giving judgement, and only Allaah is the judge of us all.
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I was going to post another post last night but a desperate incorrigible pathological liar succeeded at diverting me from delivering the next face of the Book (al-kitaab). He must have gotten another medal and a pat on the back by his god Shaytaan.
As the messenger of the covenant, Dr. Rashad Khalifa PhD (who has been proven and authenticated as a messenger so many times, even after his death), repeatedly said, Satan must be represented everywhere, so is even in this Forum, as well...
Now, the question is how could we know for sure who does represent him?
I think that we are not (at least not all of us) endowed with clear-cut knowledge and precision in that matter, and our utmost responsibility is to guard our own soul and save our own neck, not muse ourselves about neck of others!"De sue?os vive el hombre"... (Of dreams mankind lives...) as a poet once declared...
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Peace IronFist,
The reason I say "almost nothing positive" is that we learn something all the time
if we are paying attention. What I learn from stops is that satan must have his say,
stops is basically saying "I am a non-believer" so how many times do we have to hear it!I hope nobody would mind me quoting dear and akin member @hawkninetynine, whom I admire very much for his balanced and honest posts which are usually in accordance with my own views.
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You asked an example and here I give your latest example.
You say that al-amiyr is ....... to incite hate towards all atheists.
YOU. and then you start a flame war and attempt to incite hate towards all atheists, only because you can't handle my criticism.
This is what al-amiyr wrote talking about your methods,
He don't want to discuss like many other descent atheists that I have met all over the world. He wants to bring about a clash of the civilizations.
Now there is a mild example of your dishonesty. It amounts to character assassination. I would advise you to take all al-amiyr's posts and yours and take it to an independant assessor to make judgement.
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I had a brother of the forum showed me via PM where the ignore list is and that is where he will be placed inshaa allaah.
+salaamI hope @al-amiyr will continue with the exposition of his material with not many further distractions and interruptions.
I am expectantly waiting for the answer why did God create anything at all in the first place, and I was promised an answer.
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As the messenger of the covenant, Dr. Rashad Khalifa PhD (who has been proven and authenticated as a messenger so many times, even after his death), repeatedly said, Satan must be represented everywhere, so is even in this Forum, as well...
I would humbly request you not to divert this thread. If you want to discuss RK, or if you want to be StopS advocate, then
please do so in another thread.
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I would humbly request you not to divert this thread. If you want to discuss RK, or if you want to be StopS advocate, then
please do so in another thread.
PeaceThe accent and the emphasis was not on Dr. Rashad Khalifa, PhD, the messenger of the covenant, but on the words Satan must be represented everywhere, so is even in this Forum, as well!
The rest of my post is even more important, if you could only grasp...but, I doubt, because you start sounding like an idol-worshiper of @al-amiyr, God forbid!
To my humble opinion, the most "diverting" thing is talking sides in a debate and chant like fans.Let us instead continue our learning and follow @al-amiyr's posts!
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You asked an example and here I give your latest example.
You say that al-amiyr is ....... to incite hate towards all atheists.
This is what al-amiyr wrote talking about your methods,
Now there is a mild example of your dishonesty. It amounts to character assassination. I would advise you to take all al-amiyr's posts and yours and take it to an independant assessor to make judgement.Look, if I say something, I say it for a reason.
You initially said "What a lie. You have consistently taken al-amiyrs work out of context and presented it as what he said."
I have asked you to provide evidence. If you don't know or don't understand what I am talking about, why don't you simply ask me, what I am talking about?
al-amiyr says that "I will let all Muslims be warned about this guy and his little group calling themselves The Radical Atheists."
To which I replied "you start a flame war and attempt to incite hate towards all atheists, only because you can't handle my criticism."
This happened AFTER I asked you to provide evidence.
I am getting a bit sick of this nonsense. Is that how Muslims behave? Is that what I am learning about the followers of this god? Lies, deceit, hate, false accusations and personal attacks!
Is that what you guys here are presenting as the true Islam? You should be ashamed of yourselves. Just because I point out the flaws of someone else, I get attacked. Not because I am wrong, because I know I only pointed out real mistakes, no, only because I don't believe the same as what others here do.If people here want to follow nonsense and false assertions, fine, people here are adults and can make their own decisions. But all I have done is look objectively at what al-amiyr has posted. If there was just a methodology I read and tried it to see it there was some sense in it. And sometimes there was. But when someone posts absolute nonsense about scientific subjects and presents nonsensical and false stuff, why should I keep quiet? Why can't I point out the mistakes?
And yes, I agree, it has gotten out of hand, because al-amiyr couldn't handle constructive criticism and started his hypocritical attacks, always hiding behind others. And people fall for it. ok, so it seems an objective warning is not welcome, so I will not comment on what al-amiyr is doing any longer and if anyone believes what is false and nonsensical, so be it.
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Look, if I say something, I say it for a reason.
You initially said "What a lie. You have consistently taken al-amiyrs work out of context and presented it as what he said."
I have asked you to provide evidence. If you don't know or don't understand what I am talking about, why don't you simply ask me, what I am talking about?
al-amiyr says that "I will let all Muslims be warned about this guy and his little group calling themselves The Radical Atheists."
To which I replied "you start a flame war and attempt to incite hate towards all atheists, only because you can't handle my criticism."
This happened AFTER I asked you to provide evidence.
I am getting a bit sick of this nonsense. Is that how Muslims behave? Is that what I am learning about the followers of this god? Lies, deceit, hate, false accusations and personal attacks!
Is that what you guys here are presenting as the true Islam? You should be ashamed of yourselves. Just because I point out the flaws of someone else, I get attacked. Not because I am wrong, because I know I only pointed out real mistakes, no, only because I don't believe the same as what others here do.If people here want to follow nonsense and false assertions, fine, people here are adults and can make their own decisions. But all I have done is look objectively at what al-amiyr has posted. If there was just a methodology I read and tried it to see it there was some sense in it. And sometimes there was. But when someone posts absolute nonsense about scientific subjects and presents nonsensical and false stuff, why should I keep quiet? Why can't I point out the mistakes?
And yes, I agree, it has gotten out of hand, because al-amiyr couldn't handle constructive criticism and started his hypocritical attacks, always hiding behind others. And people fall for it. ok, so it seems an objective warning is not welcome, so I will not comment on what al-amiyr is doing any longer and if anyone believes what is false and nonsensical, so be it.
Why do you assume that I am a Moslem. I am more of an agnostic than anything else but willing to listen to anybody and that includes you.
You did not answer the question. Your reason above is flawed and does not make sense. You seem very rash and get quickly excited. Cool down brother. You also have some valuable contributions to make. Make them without starting wars. -
Let us instead continue our learning and follow @al-amiyr's posts!
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