The Qur'aan And Its Ever Unsolved Mystery: What is > A-L-M and A-L-R and A-L-M-R
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.In The Name of God_The All Merciful_The Most Merciful
The state of the knowledge
of The Muslims as far as their understanding of the language of The Qur'aan is concerned.
Firstly you must remember
that the Qur'aan is a book that has been revealed in The Arabic Language and in particular the dialect of The tribe of Quraysh.
Did you know
that approximately 80% of Muslims do not know Arabic?
Did you know
that 90% and plus of Muslims who say they speak Arabic do not speak the Arabic of The Qur'aan?
Did you know
that all the translations of the Qur'aan translated so far has each at least a thousand errors in it of all kinds?
Did you know
that the most famous English Qur'aan translation used by Muslims "Yusuf Ali" has at least two thousand errors in it of every kind?
So when 99% of Muslims read the translated Qur'aan they can be hopelessly misled as to what The Qur'aan is really saying.
And surely so many have been misled already.
And they have spread their misleading understandings and doctrines all over the world.
Then when people who do not have knowledge encounter Muslims and their views
they do not realize that those views have nothing to do with The Qur'aan.
And then upon those distorted views they give themselves the right to make judgements upon The Qur'aan
resulting in all kinds of ignorant and invalid statements.
Thus falsehood about the Qur'aan gets spread from within as well as from without.
Falsehoods upon and Falsehoods adjacent to each other.
Precisely the strategy of ShayTaan (Satan).
Therefore when I shall present to you a verse of the Qur'aan
I will present the Arabic with the transliteration as well as at least three known translations.
And then I will go forth to analyze the presented verse or verses in detail.
And then you can also learn directly and be a full participant in the knowledge that
The Lord of The Worlds meant to convey.
To be continued inshaa allaah...
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Peace al-amiyr.
It is the author of the Qoran who teaches/explains Qoran.
The Most Gracious.
Teacher of the Quran.
Also
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The human being will be his own judge.7515
No excuses will be accepted.Prophet Forbidden from Explaining the Quran
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Do not move your tongue to hasten it.7517
It is we who will collect it into Quran.7518
Once we recite it, you shall follow such a Quran.7519
Then it is we who will explain it.Role of the prophet/messenger
If you disbelieve, generations before you have also disbelieved. The sole function of the messenger is to deliver (the message).
Let there be no misunderstanding as "Who explains/ teaches " Qoran.
Peace.
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Al-amiyr,
None can teach His Book other than Himself. The Book is not wordy literature for a man to teach Quran but it is by itself a Grace, a Blessing, a Mercy and the Guidance towards Allah; and above all Quran is the Wisdom of all universes that culminates in a measure determined, in each soul, by the leave of Allah. None can master Quran but according to an allowance as He wish in proportion to the purity one maintains of Him and for Him, in his soul. Here each one's measure is different and none shall underestimate another.
I bring to your memory of the assembly of Prophet Sulaiman There was this mumin endowed with the wisdom of that part of Quran, by which he could place before Sulaiman the throne of the queen of Saba from a very far off distance at the wink of an eye. At that, Sulaiman said, "It is the blessing of my God and it is a test unto me if I am grateful to my God!" Sulaiman was so humble, polite and well-receiving when Allah's signs are shown before him by a mumin, even if he, the great king Sulaiman himself had not been endowed with such powers. With bowing humility Sulaiman accepted that part of the ayat or the sign of Quran - or the Gift of Allah.
Then there is the case of Prophet Musa, who requested a wise man endowed with the powers or the ayats or the signs of that part of Quran, that he might be allowed to follow him in order that he would teach Musa what Allah had blessed on that wise man. But he refused saying it is not possible for Musa to follow him with patience and finally rejected Musa. And Musa, even if he is a prophet, having been taught his impatience and his measure, humbly bowed out.
I ask of you Al-amiyr, where do you stand? And what is your stance? And what powers of which ayat you possess as sign from Allah that you project here as instructor of Quran? Why have you no politeness when you placed yourself as the only 1% who has 100% knowledge on Quran?
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the Qur'aan (A-L-R),
the Book (A-L-M-R),
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the Matrix of the Book (A-L-M).If
ALR = Koran
ALMR = book
ALM = matrixwhat is http//www.iqrasearch.com/surah-araf-translation.html
chapter 7 Verse / Ayat 1 Alif-Lam-Meem-Sad. (These letters are one of the miracles of the Quran and none but Allah (Alone) knows their meanings).ALMS = ?
ALMS
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If
ALR = Koran
ALMR = book
ALM = matrixwhat is http//www.iqrasearch.com/surah-araf-translation.html
chapter 7 Verse / Ayat 1 Alif-Lam-Meem-Sad. (These letters are one of the miracles of the Quran and none but Allah (Alone) knows their meanings).ALMS = ?
ALMS
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ALM ALSFirstly the addition to Alif-Lam-Meem-Sad is not found in the Qur'aan. That is another interpolation that is misleading. But as far as anyone has brought a meaning there is no compromise among the meanings presented.
Also in your above A_L_M_R, it should be the Book and not just Book.
For me to present my meaning I will need to take you to the book (al kitaab) for the proof.
From my present knowledge mathematically
A_L_M = the set of natural numbers
A_L_M_S = the set of whole numbers
A_L_R = the set of rational numbers/ might include the irrational but not yet 100% certain so I do not yet make this claim.
A_L_M_R = the set of real numbersTake the above as a guideline.
These are all books of ALLAAH that He brought into existence from the real number line. I am presenting this in the Entering the Hidden book thread inshaa allaah.
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If
ALR = Koran
ALMR = book
ALM = matrixwhat is http//www.iqrasearch.com/surah-araf-translation.html
chapter 7 Verse / Ayat 1 Alif-Lam-Meem-Sad. (These letters are one of the miracles of the Quran and none but Allah (Alone) knows their meanings).ALMS = ?
ALMS
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ALM ALSAlso I forgot to add. If there was A_L_S (S=Saad and not s=siyn) then it would mean absolute zero.
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that the Qur'aan is a book that has been revealed in The Arabic Language and in particular the dialect of The tribe of Quraysh.
Did you know that this argument is the weakest argument of all Islamic arguments? It is a cop-out.
Did you know that most people believe the Koran to be revealed for everyone, not just the people who have studied a particular dialect of a language?
Did you know that according to 144 there must have been a perfect text in a language everybody understood? (in the language of his people, so that he might clearly convey the message to them - Usmani)
Did you know that the Koran itself claims it is easy to understand and to remember? That everything is explained? Is there really a need for all these mystic and nebulous insinuations?
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Did you know that this argument is the weakest argument of all Islamic arguments? It is a cop-out.
Did you know that most people believe the Koran to be revealed for everyone, not just the people who have studied a particular dialect of a language?
Did you know that according to 144 there must have been a perfect text in a language everybody understood? (in the language of his people, so that he might clearly convey the message to them - Usmani)
Did you know that the Koran itself claims it is easy to understand and to remember? That everything is explained? Is there really a need for all these mystic and nebulous insinuations?
In what language was the Qur'aan revealed?
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In what language was the Qur'aan revealed?
I asked 6 very specific questions. All you manage is ignoring all 6 of them and instead, asking a question where nobody knows the answer.
Do you maintain to have exclusive knowledge of what language a god speaks or uses?
You ask a question as though there is documented and historically accurate information as to who revealed what to whom at what time and place in what language.
Does this mean you will again ignore my questions and run off into some void? -
I asked 6 very specific questions. All you manage is ignoring all 6 of them and instead, asking a question where nobody knows the answer.
Do you maintain to have exclusive knowledge of what language a god speaks or uses?
You ask a question as though there is documented and historically accurate information as to who revealed what to whom at what time and place in what language.
Does this mean you will again ignore my questions and run off into some void?For the moment I think I will avoid . You seem to stay stuck in matter. No matter!
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Did you know that this argument is the weakest argument of all Islamic arguments? It is a cop-out.
Did you know that most people believe the Koran to be revealed for everyone, not just the people who have studied a particular dialect of a language?
Did you know that according to 144 there must have been a perfect text in a language everybody understood? (in the language of his people, so that he might clearly convey the message to them - Usmani)
Did you know that the Koran itself claims it is easy to understand and to remember? That everything is explained? Is there really a need for all these mystic and nebulous insinuations?
Salam StopS and Al -Amiyr
i'm agree with StopS in this point. The Quran is a Revelation for the Alamiin
Al amiyr does not speak of the Quran, but about the 'hidden' book, which i do not equate with the Qur'an, the reading
The Quran was revealed for the last prophet- he explains it sufficient and fully - for this why we need no new prophet, but only messengers.
The knowledge which al -Amiyr like tol transmit , I understand it as knowledge from a prophet.
However, Allah has revealed in the Qur'an that the prophethood has ended, I can not accept this as absolute truth, but look at them as an interesting new theory or explanation.
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.The state of the knowledge
of The Muslims as far as their understanding of the language of The Qur'aan is concerned.
The pre-requisite or the required state of being to understand Quran is to possess the clairvoyance of the wisdom by the leave of Allah. Allah grants it to those who think and ponder the ayats of Quran, in the Name of the only Aalim, the All-Knowing; and they alone can touch the Quran or get at it. To ponder you need no language but beyond the language, the intuitive perception.
Say Believe therein or believe not therein, lo! those who were given the wisdom even before it is revealed, when it is read unto them, fall down prostrate on their faces, adoring.
salam amiyr.
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Peace mirjamnur.
I agree with you.
Also al-amiyr is boasting, claiming he has a secret? Seeking dignity from members?
Many before him have played that game. Confirm what you are about from Qoran?
Some are falling into a trap like their parents and other generations before them
7173 Nor can you say? It was our parents who practised idolatry ( Were loyal to others!) and we simply followed in their footsteps; Will you punish us for what others have innovated??
Seek your Lord and His word only. Check all claims. Use Qoran as a guide.
7174 We thus explain the revelations ( To remind the humans!) to enable the people to redeem themselves.?
Peace.
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Peace mirjamnur.
I agree with you.
Also al-amiyr is boasting, claiming he has a secret? Seeking dignity from members?
Many before him have played that game. Confirm what you are about from Qoran?
Some are falling into a trap like their parents and other generations before them
7173 Nor can you say? It was our parents who practised idolatry ( Were loyal to others!) and we simply followed in their footsteps; Will you punish us for what others have innovated??
Seek your Lord and His word only. Check all claims. Use Qoran as a guide.
7174 We thus explain the revelations ( To remind the humans!) to enable the people to redeem themselves.?
Peace.
Your peace returned
You always love to show yourself coming in peace but your hollow words are filled with hypocrisy. This is what I have already identified as a show your religion. They are all going to end up under rubbish heaps.
You have no idea what this Qur'aan is about. And praise be to ALLAAH who Has protected the knowledge of His Divine book from the unworthy. You are trying so hard to protect your none sense. There is one thing falsehood all have in common and that is, they love to attack from behind. They cannot face the truth. I am fully aware of all your concoctions.When you quote the Qur'aan, please stop inserting words that does not belong there.
Your peace returned
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Peace al-amiyr.
It seems you do not know me from what you described in your post.I am not even repeating it.
However , here is more Qoran( plus some of my words!)
416 Say? I am no more than a human being like you, who has been inspired that your god is ONE god. You shall be devoted to HIM, and ask HIS forgiveness. Woe to the idols worshippers.? ( Followers of doctrines, wishful thinking , man made stuff and guesswork?)
4133 Who can utter better words than the one who invites to GOD, works righteousness and says? I am one of the submitters.? ( Listens to GOD s message)
4134 Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response, thus, the one who used to be your enemy may become your friend.? ( Waste of time arguing! GOD is the only judge.)
4138 If they are too arrogant to do this, then those at your Lord ( All the creatures that already submitted to HIM) glorify HIM day and night without ever tiring.?
4140 ? Do whatever you wish. HE (GOD) is Seer of everything you do."
Sorry for not buying into your hidden book. However I will still say
Peace to you.
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Peace al-amiyr.
It seems you do not know me from what you described in your post.I am not even repeating it.
However , here is more Qoran( plus some of my words!)
416 Say? I am no more than a human being like you, who has been inspired that your god is ONE god. You shall be devoted to HIM, and ask HIS forgiveness. Woe to the idols worshippers.? ( Followers of doctrines, wishful thinking , man made stuff and guesswork?)
4133 Who can utter better words than the one who invites to GOD, works righteousness and says? I am one of the submitters.? ( Listens to GOD s message)
4134 Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response, thus, the one who used to be your enemy may become your friend.? ( Waste of time arguing! GOD is the only judge.)
4138 If they are too arrogant to do this, then those at your Lord ( All the creatures that already submitted to HIM) glorify HIM day and night without ever tiring.?
4140 ? Do whatever you wish. HE (GOD) is Seer of everything you do."
Sorry for not buying into your hidden book. However I will still say
Peace to you.
Your peace returned
Your cunning actions behind smooth talking is what I am referring to. Remember that! I have been watching how you have slyly been provoking and evil campaign against muhammad (S+) and his family.
Don't hide your falsehood behind Qur'aanic verses. You guys are so scared that you have now begun to launch your campaign against this guy al-amiyr. Remember I am vindicated by all the personal attacks that you are trying to launch. I have predicted it.
as_salaamu "alaykum
Where the Book (al-kitaab) goes there the Shaytaan and his allies are frantic. They know what is coming and have the permission and are intent to do their utmost to cause its delay. So be always on your guard. They are all a bunch of weaklings without any power except over those who take them as allies.This post has been set up to expose the strategies of this great rebel and hater of humanity.
He is almost everywhere and he had a long time
by the permission of ALLAAH The Most High
to set up his traps to divert from the straight road of ALLAAH The Most high.His agents and progeny are watching you from a place you cannot see them.
That is what ALLAAH informs us in the qur'aan.
Take heed.Don't be surprised when you see them beginning to launch their attacks against this insignificant but knowledgeable fellow.
Hope all the brotherhood and sisterhood will take heed.
The next day this Muslim forum issued me with a ban.
walhamdulillaahi rabbil_"aalamiyn
Your peace returned
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Peace al-amiyr.
I trust in God Alone. Show me a single evidence of what you are claiming I did?
I believe whatever needs to be said God has said it in his book
Say, "If the ocean were ink for the words of my Lord, the ocean would run out, before the words of my Lord run out, even if we double the ink supply."
There is nothing hidden.
As for scared, nothing can harm or benefit me , only what my Lord wills for me.
As for predictions , I do not predict anything, however I know for sure that we are both going to meet our creator on the day of judgement. He will let us who is fabricating lies ?
Again peace to you
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Peace be upon you,
Which claims made by Al-amiyr cause so much confrontation? I cannot understand how one man can cause so much conflict in one place. Mind explaining what is so blasphemous with these ideas of the meaning of "A.L.M"?
Can al-amiyr not have his opinion of what they mean? You choose to believe it if it seems logical and does not go against the teachings of the Quran. Otherwise you say you do not agree without insult, explaining why.
May God forgive our sins.