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Are Quran-aloners being arrogant?

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    Man_of_Faith
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    Peace Shirley,

    With all due respect, in the time of Abraham and other early messengers back then, the religious knowledge was probably "oral tradition", which was later written down. I will not attempt to delve into how the Torah was composed, because I simply have no clue, but it was during Moses era.

    The world population was very tiny in this age and maybe not ready for a scripture.

    May God enlighten us

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      Shirley
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      Peace Shirley,

      With all due respect, in the time of Abraham and other early messengers back then, the religious knowledge was probably "oral tradition", which was later written down. I will not attempt to delve into how the Torah was composed, because I simply have no clue, but it was during Moses era.

      The world population was very tiny in this age and maybe not ready for a scripture.

      May God enlighten us

      Thank You Man of Faith, but I think saying probably let's us know that we are delving into a world of conjecture. If Solomon or anyone else here has solid evidence to substantiate this belief I would accept it.

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        Borakk
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        No such thing exists!!! Sorry!! I know where you're getting at with this and I am going to warn you ahead of time that it is NOT the same as Four SIMULTANEOUS Witnesses At the SAME TIME!!! Different screwed up reports by different compilers of the ahaadith is nowhere close to the same thing.

        Desperate denial of reality.

        I also have no problem with your zionist views. I have a problem with TROLLS who masquerade as truth seekers when they really have an ulterior agenda. Hence, I am making it my business.

        Your problem, you take care of it. Above all, you're not a moderator. Don't act like one. It is them who decide who is a troll and who is not. You're too insignificant to decide anything.

        By the way, you COMPLETELY ignored my request. I asked you to produce evidence to back up your claim that oral traditions were OBVIOUSLY the method of transferring information BEFORE the hadith.

        An idiotic request that defies common sense will "OBVIOUSLY" be ignored.

        Salam.

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          farida
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          Above all, you're not a moderator. Don't act like one. You're too insignificant to decide who is what.

          Salam.

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            Shirley
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            Desperate denial of reality.

            Okay, all you have to do is just produce ONE HADITH that has four SIMULTANEOUS witnesses in the isnaad who are reporting the hadith and I will happily concede.

            Your problem, you take care of it. Above all, you're not a moderator. Don't act like one. It is them who decide who is a troll and who is not. You're too insignificant to decide anything.

            When and where in my posts did I act like a moderator? And that's quite the tough guy act you're performing over the internet. Very easy to do from a keyboard. I am sure that I am no more insignificant than you are homie, I don't need to put on an internet tough guy facade to feel big.

            An idiotic request that defies common sense will "OBVIOUSLY" be ignored.

            Salam.

            I'll take that as an admittance that you CANNOT produce evidence to support your claim. So it was an empty statement after all. laugh

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              Borakk
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              Okay, all you have to do is just produce ONE HADITH that has four SIMULTANEOUS witnesses in the isnaad who are reporting the hadith and I will happily concede.

              When and where in my posts did I act like a moderator? And that's quite the tough guy act you're performing over the internet. Very easy to do from a keyboard. I am sure that I am no more insignificant than you are homie, I don't need to put on an internet tough guy facade to feel big.

              I'll take that as an admittance that you CANNOT produce evidence to support your claim. So it was an empty statement after all. laugh

              Must've been hard to type so much, eh?

              Typing won't increase your worth. Learn how to engage in decent discussions without name calling, then you might have a chance.

              Salam

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                Man_of_Faith
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                Peace Solomon,

                Common criticism against you is not without basis. You act with a bitter taste of arrogance. Oppressive language disguised under a formal dismissal.

                It is no pleasure of reading your input. You seem not to accept that someone else has a different view than you.

                You practically attack people for their belief.

                May God show the truth

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                  Shirley
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                  Must've been hard to type so much, eh?

                  Typing won't increase your worth. Learn how to engage in decent discussions without name calling, then you might have a chance.

                  I'll take this to mean that you cannot produce a single hadith just like you cannot produce evidence for your other claim about Obvious Oral tradition. laugh

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                    Borakk
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                    You act with a bitter taste of arrogance.

                    I'm all for a decent conversation provided there's no name calling or ridiculing by any party. Seems only few people can adhere to this online. Those who can't, such as this Shirley, are not worth having any discussion with and I don't mind being bitter with these creatures. I don't have the habit of beating around the bush. When I'm labeled a "troll" unjustly, I will react proportionately, and don't care what anyone else thinks.

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                      Man_of_Faith
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                      Peace Solomon,

                      Ok, its you acting out. I just wanted to help you. Shirley is apparently not being acting in the way befitting a true believer either. May you calm down, God willing, and reach some friendly solution to the situation.

                      No one is without sins, so we all, including me, commit them and we all deserve forgiveness should we reform.

                      God bless you both

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