WHAT IS THIS???? RECRUITMENT AGENCY FOR MILLITANS OR WHAT??
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Selam, Good logic,
I understand where you are coming from! I must admit your involvement not as bad as the others! I meant to put his name( the one used the word of S.....t )I can remember his/her name and to tell you the truth I can be bothered go in to that treads and read it all over again cos' don't see the point furthermore I am done here. Nevertheless looking at your posts one would expect much better assertions than that. However I do apologise putting you on same level of that said people involved in that particular discussion.
peace
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Peace Ziggy Peace.
Thank you for that.
There are certain things that must be said . Look at how the Qoran is " very blunt" at times.
I agree,however, that one must be respectful , truthful and honest.
Peace to you.
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Peace es.
Thank you for your kind words.
Join with me the recruitment agency for the " Lord Alone".
God bless you.
Peace.
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Dear Ziggy,
I take offence to your post.
The Quran is not a hippy communne book - but one that teaches us JUSTICE above all else, even if justice has to be enforced with force.
Perhaps you skipped the verses where adulterers are lashed in public, murderers killed, war declared, etc.
But, this side of the Quran is too much for some people who want us to live with injustice and "turn the other cheek" - falsly promoted as the teachings of God through Christ!
Quran is all or nothing...
285 But then here you are killing each other and expelling a group of you from their homes; you act towards them with evil and animosity. And if they come to you as prisoners, you ransom them while it was unlawful for you to expel them! Do you believe in part of the Book and disbelieve in part? The punishment for those among you who do so is humiliation in this worldly life, and on the Day of Resurrection they will be delivered to the most severe retribution. God is not unaware of what you all do.
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Dear Layth
Dear Ziggy,
I take offence to your post.
The Quran is not a hippy communne book - but one that teaches us JUSTICE above all else, even if justice has to be enforced with force.
Perhaps you skipped the verses where adulterers are lashed in public, murderers killed, war declared, etc.
But, this side of the Quran is too much for some people who want us to live with injustice and "turn the other cheek" - falsly promoted as the teachings of God through Christ!
Quran is all or nothing...
285 But then here you are killing each other and expelling a group of you from their homes; you act towards them with evil and animosity. And if they come to you as prisoners, you ransom them while it was unlawful for you to expel them! Do you believe in part of the Book and disbelieve in part? The punishment for those among you who do so is humiliation in this worldly life, and on the Day of Resurrection they will be delivered to the most severe retribution. God is not unaware of what you all do.
First of all I like to make this clear to you; I have never claimed the Quaran was/is hippi communne book. So why should you say such a thing that never been stated by me or anyone else on this site for that matter. In fact my assertions were completely against for whom made that particular discussion not within the conducting of Quaranic discussion i.e given even names on my post. So, I strongly urge you refrain using words of HIPPI COMMUNE book for QUARAN. You may use that sort of wording if someone saying ''It is''. So I am struggling to understand as you stated ''YOU TAKE MY POST AS OFFENCE''!!??? On what ground and reason???? Least to say your response is offensive as such, just like the way you took a part on the said discussion! One would expect, as you are one of the administrators on this site, much better manner of conducting any discussion,let alone Quaranic discussion!
Also. I like to ask you why did you quote above verse? Are you referring to the said discussion took place between you and some others regarding Palestine/Israel issue? If it is, I can assure you I am well aware of that verse and I do know within my own free will how or when should be implemented that's why HIGH AND MIGHTY gave us incredible faculties together with free will. It is not as simple as buying a packet of sugar from the corner shop!!!! Do you understand what I mean?? Understanding and implementing of the verse above differs from person to person e.i some like to stoned the person to death,some like to deal with it amicable way,some deal with it much more humane way or some deal with it capital punishment way!! So as you can see various ways of dealing with oppression, killing,raping,transgression etc. Whichever way you personally prefer just does not make even slightest difference to mine. As you probably use your faculties together with your free will much different than me or others for that matter. End of the day GOD is the knower and HE is the one delivers most severe punishment.
You have stated that ''THIS SIDE OF QUARAN IS TOO MUCH FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO WANTS US TO LIVE INJUSTICE AND TURN THEIR CHEEK and you go to say as falsely promoted as the teaching of GOD through christ'' There is no ONE SIDE or OTHER SIDE of QUARAN my friend. QUARAN is ONE and ONLY book unaltered and totally its contents protected. Jesus(ISA) is chosen by HIGH and MIGHTY just like the rest of the messengers and as far as I am concerned the gospel is the part of the Holly book of QUARAN. In fact, what I believe QUARAN is the conclusion of the all scriptures and books of all. Furthermore, who wants us to live injustice and asks us turn our cheek? We have gifted with wonderful faculties and given FREE WILL to deal with any injustice and wrong doing that goes without saying. GOD IS AWARE OF ALL WHAT WE DO AND HE IS THE LIGHT OF WORLDS.
Finally, Dear Layth, since you are one of the administrator on this site, would you please tell me how can I cancel my account on this site? I could not find any link to do just that here which I find it a bit unusual and peculiar, as most website requires registering as well as gives an option of cancelling membership. I would appreciate it very much. Thank you.
Peace
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Selam, Good logic,
I understand where you are coming from! I must admit your involvement not as bad as the others! I meant to put his name( the one used the word of S.....t )I can remember his/her name and to tell you the truth I can be bothered go in to that treads and read it all over again cos' don't see the point furthermore I am done here. Nevertheless looking at your posts one would expect much better assertions than that. However I do apologise putting you on same level of that said people involved in that particular discussion.
peace
Salam Ziggy
It was the member Pazuzu.
Being the only pro-Israeli debater, I supported Israel in that debate. As I was debating this sensitive issue with Muslims, some members namely huruf, Pazuzu and es threw personal attacks at me. They behaved no different from terrorists and fanatics who chastise others for having a different opinion, religion, ethnicity etc. Even with all these attacks thrown at me, I tried my best to keep the cool from my part and ignored their uncivilized attacks.
It is sad that they did this. May Allah teach them basic etiquettes, tolerance and civility.
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Peace solomon.
Quote who chastise others for having a different opinion, religion, ethnicity etc.
I was also called " Arrogant" by yourself in another thread for no other reason than holding a different opinion from yours.
But I forgive you.
God bless you.
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Peace solomon.
Quote who chastise others for having a different opinion, religion, ethnicity etc.
I was also called " Arrogant" by yourself in another thread for no other reason than holding a different opinion from yours.
But I forgive you.
God bless you.
PeacePeace good logic,
I have no reservation in offering you a formal apology here and now. I'm sorry if my remark hurt you.
Peace.
God bless you too.
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Peace solomon.
Thank you.
May the lord bond the hearts of all the brothers and sisters that seek Him .
Peace.
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Peace "Solomon",
Salam Ziggy
It was the member Pazuzu.
Being the only pro-Israeli debater, I supported Israel in that debate. As I was debating this sensitive issue with Muslims, some members namely huruf, Pazuzu and es threw personal attacks at me. They behaved no different from terrorists and fanatics who chastise others for having a different opinion, religion, ethnicity etc. Even with all these attacks thrown at me, I tried my best to keep the cool from my part and ignored their uncivilized attacks.
It is sad that they did this. May Allah teach them basic etiquettes, tolerance and civility.
I threw "personal attacks" at you? It is not within the realms of impossibility for me to have erred, but I honestly do not recall anything to support your accusation. If I have done so, I sincerely apologise to you, but before I do that I must have evidence of this. As seen as I cannot recall anything which supplements your assertion, please feel free to remind me.
I can see that you still did not understand the point I was making in the aforementioned thread about it having nothing to do with specifically Israel and Palestine, but that is not something I will continue going over.
May Allah guide us all.
Salaam.
Sajda.
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I didn't read the second half.
They behaved no different from terrorists and fanatics who chastise others for having a different opinion, religion, ethnicity etc.
Wow. I don't know what to say. That means I must have been quite clear and forthright in "throwing personal attacks" at you. Yet, I don't recall it. I really would like you to point it out to me, and if there is anything out of order, I would gladly offer you the most sincerest of apologies.
Salaam.
Sajda.
