Second E-Book
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He appears suddenly in the center of Arabia, to settle his ?concubine? Hgar and his infant son Isma?eel in the heart of some desolate valley. Then he leaves them there and travels back, at the ripe old age of 80, to Palestine, over 1,200 kilometers away, on foot or on the back of a donkey?? He then returns again to Arabia, crossing another 1,200 kilometers, to check up on Hgar and his son. And again, and again, repeating the trip no less than 6 times, as the Islamic books of tradition tell us, and as Ibn Katheer reports
?? and Ibraheem (P) would travel repeatedly to visit his son and the mother of his son in the Pharan country (another name they claimed belonged to the ijz mountains around present day Makkah) to check up on them.?
This is what they have been teaching us for centuries about Ibraheem?s multiple and mysterious journeys between the ijz and Palestine. And if we ever use our reason and contemplate these claims, we will come to the conclusion that Ibraheem traveled a distance totaling - in the least -15,000 kilometers on foot, or on his donkey; and that?s not including his original journey from Mesopotamia and his alleged foray into Egypt, which we have left out of the equation to make the calculation more simple. This means that Ibraheem?s trips to and from the ijz totaled a distance exceeding the entire circumference of the planet, which measures about 12,800 km at the equator. And when any person with a single brain cell still functioning in his head asks the question of how an 80 year-old goat-herder could travel such distances across desolate wastelands and scorching deserts, and what was the purpose of repeating the trip no less than six times, that person would find the age-old answer also in the books of ?Islamic? tradition, as Ibn Katheer put it
?And it was reported that he (Ibraheem) would ride the Pegasus (winged horse) to there, and Allah knows best?
Allah knows best, indeed?
The fact of the matter is that this strange explanation puts the mind at a fork in the road. The first branch takes the reader towards accepting the story as it is, without questioning, because its source is considered ?divine? and not to be doubted (Allah Said So!). And this is the road that 99.99% of Muslims, who have completely discarded their brains and logic, have taken. Or, the reader can take the second road, refuse the story outright, and sound the warning buzzard to the nations, that a great forgery was perpetrated in the account of the Patriarch. Sadly, very few people have chosen to walk this road, despite the dozens of warnings in the Qur?n that the Jewish priests of old had tampered with the previous messages and corrupted the biographies of the prophets - warnings which have gone unheeded for ages.
So where do we begin? And what is the solution to this puzzle?
Dear All
The second E-Book of the series "Arabia The Untold Story" is now complete. It's about 130 pages long, and comprises a crucial stage in the journey to uncover Islam's mysterious origins, and to answer the question of who was Muhammad, and where he actually lived.
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ROAD OF THE PATRIARCH
For those of you who would like a copy, simply write me a PM with your e-mail address, and I will send it to you within 48 hours.
Peace and best regards.
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Peace brother Pazuzu
Waiting impatiently, and at last the time has come. I congratulate you for you efforts in putting the things straight. You first E book was really an eye opener and hope this book will be a brain rattler.
Many many thanks on behalf of all Muslims who look forward to learn the truth.Please send me a copy as you get time.
Thanks
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Salam..
To those who have already received the book, please IGNORE the big map on page 133. This was taken from several contradicting sources (someone's gonna get their a$$ kicked for this, I promise ))
I will re-send you an adjusted map with better and clearer text font. Forget page 133 for now.
Regards.
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Hello @Pazuzu, I was just today wandering about your second book whether it is ready...
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Salaam brother Pazuzu
Very interesting and very technical. it is a book to take as a reference.
i like very much the opposition betwen hebrew and kananeens and i am happy that cananeans can not be a reference to a special tribe.
banu Kinanah seems to be too much linked with Hijaz. Since Cananeans are also present in Josua history, i had some problems to see Josua there when he returned make the bani israel inherit the promise land, wich were Firaoun. With your interpretation, even people of Firaoun can be cananeans.There is three question that bothers me
1- Why people of Muhammad don't like specially Issa (43-57) ?
2- Why bani israel erased Issa from their memory ?
3-what does Quran means by people to whose quran was addressed are not part of the two groups that received the book (6-155 to 6-157). If Muhammad was from Yemen and yemen is land of all prophets then there is a problem there. Unless the people meant here is the people after Hijra ??i wonder also if there is also a link between the Qarmia (p61), who was a yemeni clan who were amang the first to embrace then Muhammad message and the qaramites who rebelled against Abbasids, attacked mecca, profaned zemzem and stole the black stone.
I agree with quite all what is in your book.
Thank you for your work.Peace
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This is great work indeed. May God shower His rewards on you for this effort and all your other efforts. I am grateful for it.
Salaam
Just a reminder for my dear sister huruf
You can worship yourself, your fancies, another person, ideas, whatever, and that is why there are people that have gone astray. Guidance came to everybody, and amongs all peoples there have been those that go astray.... you do not have to do anything extraordinary, and you may not even feel it, you may even think that you are serving or defending an ideal...
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Salam noshirk...
1- Why people of Muhammad don't like specially Issa (43-57) ?
I think the answer is found in the sign that comes immediately after it?
{They only put this forth to argue with you. Indeed, they are a quarrelsome people}
It is out of arrogance and denial. It is clear, however, that the Eesa of the Quran was sent to Muhamad's ancestors. They are the ones to whom the "example" is being in made.
2- Why bani israel erased Issa from their memory
They didn't. They conjured up exaggerated Sufi ideas about him and his mother later on.
3-what does Quran means by people to whose quran was addressed are not part of the two groups that received the book (6-155 to 6-157).
Muhammad's immediate ancestors, who spoke the Arabic dialect, did not receive a revelation. This is because Muhammad came after a very long "pause" in the messengers.
This is what the Quran says about the messengers that were sent to the previous nations
{We sent Our messengers in succession. Every time there came to a nation their messenger, they denied him. So We made them follow one another, and We let them become narrations}...{2344}
Allah sent them messengers in rapid succession, with hardly a pause between them. Look at Bani Israel, for example, and how messengers were sent to them one after the other.
As for Muhammad, here is what the Quran tells us
{O people of the Book, Our messenger has come to clarify for you after a lack / long pause/ of messengers; so that you cannot say "No bearer of good news or warner has come to us;" for a bearer of good news and a warner has come to you; and God is capable of all things}...
It all makes perfect sense, now, doesn't it? The last messengers sent to Bani Israel were around 500 BC. Muhammad lived - if my theory is correct - around 450 AD - 550 AD. This means that an entire millenium had passed.
As for the Qaramita, I haven't done enough research on them. All I know is that they were among the first tribes to embrace Muhammad's message. But what you mention is very possibly real. The more you look into it, the more it becomes obvious that there was a bitter rivalry between the Arabs of Hijaz and the Arabs of Yemen from the start. Each had group had its own "kaabas" and looked upon the other group with jealousy and disdain. How this will play out in the entire obliteration of Islam's true origins remains to be seen...
It's good that you bring up this point tho...
May Allah help us solve this puzzle.Something you said about looking at the wrong end of the Pennisula....you're absolutely right.
Salam.
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Dear All
Please be notified that, as of this post, I will be temporarily unable to access this forum, as I am moving to a new location and will need 2-3 weeks to set up a network connection.
Please send all e-book requests and questions to one of the following e-mail addresses
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Thank you, and kind regards.
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Dear Pazuzu,
I would like to have your e-book.
Here is my email,
[email protected]Thank you and regards,
Mazlan
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Dear all...
I'm sorry for the delay in answering your PM's, as I have not had access to the forum for the past 2 weeks.
I am now temporarily active again (for about 2 months).
If anyone has not yet received the book, please send me a PM.
Thanks.