Do we need books to believe in God?
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Quran does not guide.
I beg to disagree.
Personal experience says otherwise.If it did then the Muslims would have been the most righteous people in the world. Instead you see them worshipping rocks and dead people. Muslims also worship the Quran. They believe this book can heal them. Only the Creator can heal you, not a book.
The above logic is fallacious!
It's not the Qurn's fault that traditionalists are deaf/dumb/blind !!!
We have imparted upon thee the Writ/Prescription, with the Truth, for the People.
So, whosoever gets guided then for himself , and whosoever strays then against it. Thou art not a guardian over them. -
I beg to disagree.
Personal experience says otherwise.The above logic is fallacious!
The Reading(Quran) is a piece of knowledge. Knowledge does not guide, The Source of Knowledge guides.
If you're not self-aware, then this piece of knowledge will get you nowhere. You cannot use the Quran to make someone become self-aware. Only the Creator can do that. This is what it means by "Allah guides whom he wills". Religion fails to understand that.It's not the Qurn's fault that traditionalists are deaf/dumb/blind !!!
Souls unaware of themselves are neither dead nor alive. No book or person can guide them. Only their Creator can. They are dumb, deaf and blind because their senses are useless. Self-awareness is require to make use of their senses.. A computer without a working cpu is useless. Shoving a flash drive with some data into it is going to do nothing.
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I'm not expecting anything just pointing out an irrational attitude (the ultimate puppetmaster punishing those in the most sadist manner possible for a rejection of faith that is controlled by the puppetmaster himself).
Hmm, what I don't understand is why you are obsessed over this irrational evil God? Do you realize how unhealthy it makes you appear?
In Quran everything is predestined and controlled by God.
I denied it for a while. I thought it was illogical. But it seems that scientists are actually studying parallel worlds.
Imagine a world where dinosaurs hadn't become extinct, Germany had won World War II and you were born in an entirely different country.
These worlds could exist today in parallel universes, which constantly interact with each other, according to a group of US and Australian researchers.
It may sound like science fiction, but the new theory could resolve some of the irregularities in quantum mechanics that have baffled scientists for centuries.
The team from Griffiths University and the University of California suggest that rather than evolving independently, nearby worlds influence one another by a subtle force of repulsion.
They claim that such an interaction could explain everything that is bizarre about how particles operate on a microscopic scale.
Quantum mechanics is notoriously difficult to fathom, exhibiting weird phenomena which seem to violate the laws of cause and effect.
'The idea of parallel universes in quantum mechanics has been around since 1957,' said Howard Wiseman, a professor in Physics at Griffith University. source http//www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2816039/Parallel-universes-exist-Multiple-versions-living-alternate-worlds-interact-theory-claims.htmlA rejection of faith or disbelief is due to the non-guidance by God as Quran states. This would be like a software programmer writing an application that is not working with the programmer blaming the application for not functioning. There is no rationality in it.
Why not study the meanings of faith and disbelief?
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The Reading(Quran) is a piece of knowledge. Knowledge does not guide, The Source of Knowledge guides.
If you're not self-aware, then this piece of knowledge will get you nowhere. You cannot use the Quran to make someone become self-aware. Only the Creator can do that. This is what it means by "Allah guides whom he wills". Religion fails to understand that.P1. G-D's Guidance is THE Guidance ( ى
P2. The Qurn is a Guidance from G-D (4511,20, 1057, &c.)
Ergo., the Qurn guides,
by the Will of G-D, of course.You saying G-D's Guidance doesn't guide ?!
Or, that it doesn't guide the deaf/dumb/blind who reason not ?!
Did it not admonish them over and over again not to blindly follow their ancestors dogmas/paradigms, but to think/reason and reevaluate ?!!.
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You saying G-D's Guidance doesn't guide ?!
Or, that it doesn't guide the deaf/dumb/blind who reason not ?!You use your eyes to read the Quran. Does that mean your eyes guide you? It doesn't. The Creator gave you equipment and the data. It is your job to turn it into information. The only souls who fail to do so are the ones blinded by a disease in their hearts. They are sick. Their souls are in coma, neither dead nor alive. They did not use their equipment hence they are dumb, deaf and blind.
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You use your eyes to read the Quran. Does that mean your eyes guide you? It doesn't. The Creator gave you equipment and the data. It is your job to turn it into information. The only souls who fail to do so are the ones blinded by a disease in their hearts. They are sick. Their souls are in coma, neither dead nor alive. They did not use their equipment hence they are dumb, deaf and blind.
Ignoratio elenchi.
The Qurn does guide,
those who are willing to be guided. -
Ignoratio elenchi.
The Qurn does guide,
those who are willing to be guided.Quran is like a road to enlightenment. The one who paved the road for you guided you, not the road. Hence Quran does NOT guide. The Source of Knowledge guides.
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Quran is like a road to enlightenment. The one who paved the road for you guided you, not the road. Hence Quran does NOT guide. The Source of Knowledge guides.
The Qurn is not a "road," but a Light shining/illuminating in the darkness (as i pursue), it guides/leads to the straight/correct path, that's it's main purpose/duty .
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The Quran is not a road, but a Light shining in the darkness (as i follow it), it guides/leads to the straight/correct path, that's it's main purpose .
That the Quran can both guide and misguide only shows its double-edged nature, like every thing.
Again, who guides? The light shinning in the darkness or the one who made the light shine?
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Again, who guides? The light shinning in the darkness or the one who made the light shine?
The Light guides/directs/leads by the Will of its Maker/Assigner.
To me, the Qurn is the message-bearer G-D's Messenger.
Conveying G-D's Message/s is what it does. -
I had the same dilemma about this concept of God, knowing all, and still testing humans and rewarding / punishing accordingly. It's like playing a game in God Mode. You know what's gonna happen, yet you still play. Well, I can only hope that it isn't the case here.
To avoid deviation from the subject, I opened a new topic
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608077.0
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I actually agree with Invalid777. That's the reason why traditionalists can't see those anti hadith verses.
And it's why they wrote a false interpretation of the Reading(Quran) and had to invent a false language. For example, SJD to the Muslims is a physical movement. It would be like me randomly claiming today that the word 'thinking' is to prostrate. It takes an extreme amount of deception to go around and tell people to prostrate when they hear the word 'think'.
No matter how much knowledge you provide them(Quran, Tora, Gospel), they'll never get it. They are not self-aware. "I believe in God/Allah and his book/s" are just empty words they parrot. They don't know themselves so how can they know their Creator? They can't. They are "kafireen".
Become self-aware and you will know your Creator and receive knowledge from The Source of Knowledge. Knowledge is not limited to the Reading(Quran) but you also have access to the knowledge you were created with in your Ruh. The Reading(Quran) is a physical copy of what is within you(Ruh). This is why these traditionalists can't see the anti hadith verses. Their hearts are sealed, unaware of themselves. Only the Creator can make someone become self-aware, not a book, stone or human.MUHSIN KHAN
"Those who reject Our signs are deaf and dumb in darkness. Allah sends astray whom He wills and He guides on the Straight Path whom He wills." (639)Quote from another website
Allah has set a seal on the heart of the kafireen
"As to those who reject Faith it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; They will not believe. "Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing and on their eyes is a veil Great is the penalty they incur."
2. The word qalb in Arabic means heart as well as intelligenceThe Arabic word qalb used in these verses means the heart. It also means intelligence. Thus the above verses also mean that Allah has put a seal on the intelligence of the kafirs (unbelievers) and they will not understand and believe.
3. In the Arabic language heart is also used as a centre of understanding
In the Arabic language the word 'heart' is also used to connote one's centre of understanding.