Do we need books to believe in God?
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So according to you all the prophets were not spiritually developed enough?
I don't get how did you jump to that conclusion?
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Most of the prophets got the Book does this mean they needed it because they weren't spiritually developed enough? But as I think now they got it in order to show the right path to the people so it could be that they themselves actually didn't need it? I have no idea....(
Sorry if I sounded harsh in my previous post....
Maybe the question is wrong you don't need a book to believe in God but you need it to guide you.
I don't remember God ever mentioned people who don't believe in his existence, even Iblis knows about His existence it's the distortion of belief that's addressed. -
even Iblis knows about His existence it's the distortion of belief that's addressed.
Another good argument.
The devil believe in the existence of God.
Yet that doesn't makes him/her/it a good person isn't it?That's why, 'believe in the existence of (one or more) God' is irrelevant.
Salam / Peace
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Another good argument.
The devil believe in the existence of God.
Yet that doesn't makes him/her/it a good person isn't it?That's why, 'believe in the existence of (one or more) God' is irrelevant.
Salam / Peace
Excellent!
Thank you for a good thought!Love of God
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Another good argument.
The devil believe in the existence of God.
Yet that doesn't makes him/her/it a good person isn't it?That's why, 'believe in the existence of (one or more) God' is irrelevant.
Salam / Peace
yes, but worshiping(addicted to) false gods and rituals(practices) is relevant. )
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Of all religions and sects and communities, the most ignorant of Allah are those claim themselves "Muslims". While the Book says Allah alone knows who a Muslim is among a single nation of human beings, they fell apart into different religious sects, merely naming themselves as belonging to a hither to unknown, uncreated species other than human beings that Allah has never created. Allah says if you are a human being, wanting to be chosen by Him as Muslims, you have got nothing to do with these hell-bound dividers, the species, belonging to religions and sects and communities.
If only they had read the Book, that is in conformity to their conscience, they would not be indulging in such topics and discussions.
Peace
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one other valid question is, do we need prophets to guide us?
naturally when a community goes down in false beliefs and stick to it, there comes an enlightened soul to warn them, this should be as per natural law of cause and effect and there lies a history/sign which when recorded will be useful to future mankind, which we call the Quran Bible etc. -
Of all religions and sects and communities, the most ignorant of Allah are those claim themselves "Muslims". While the Book says Allah alone knows who a Muslim is among a single nation of human beings, they fell apart into different religious sects, merely naming themselves as belonging to a hither to unknown, uncreated species other than human beings that Allah has never created. Allah says if you are a human being, wanting to be chosen by Him as Muslims, you have got nothing to do with these hell-bound dividers, the species, belonging to religions and sects and communities.
If only they had read the Book, that is in conformity to their conscience, they would not be indulging in such topics and discussions.
Peace
Excellent! Agreed.
One has to stop the mental chattering to let the Divinity in...
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Respected Doctor.
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Of all religions and sects and communities, the most ignorant of Allah are those claim themselves "Muslims". While the Book says Allah alone knows who a Muslim is among a single nation of human beings, they fell apart into different religious sects, merely naming themselves as belonging to a hither to unknown, uncreated species other than human beings that Allah has never created. Allah says if you are a human being, wanting to be chosen by Him as Muslims, you have got nothing to do with these hell-bound dividers, the species, belonging to religions and sects and communities.
If only they had read the Book, that is in conformity to their conscience, they would not be indulging in such topics and discussions.
Peace
Indeed!
I tend to think that ignorance generally is proportional to the amount of demanded conformity in a group... so in this sense, the Islamic sects indeed rank high on the ignorance scale... but many other groups are often no less.
One of the greatest misconceptions of all time is that the quran belongs to any certain group or religion, or vice versa, that any certain religion or grouping is more related to the quran than any other part of humanity. It is with this idea that everything begins to fail and crumble and a blinding misunderstanding of the quran takes form. So, while Islam (the world religion) follows a twisted and sick interpretation of the quran.... the real message and spirit of the quran has no kinship with this Islam, and is hence forgotten and hidden from plain sight. This religion has hijacked a great arabic word and turned it into its own name.... such an formidable deceit and lie.
Peace
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One of the greatest misconceptions of all time is that the quran belongs to any certain group or religion, or vice versa, that any certain religion or grouping is more related to the quran than any other part of humanity. It is with this idea that everything begins to fail and crumble and a blinding misunderstanding of the quran takes form. So, while Islam (the world religion) follows a twisted and sick interpretation of the quran.... the real message and spirit of the quran has no kinship with this Islam, and is hence forgotten and hidden from plain sight. This religion has hijacked a great arabic word and turned it into its own name.... such an formidable deceit and lie.
Peace
The most despised cursed society, this, Islamic. The less we talk of or even think about these people, would bring more glad tidings from Allah. May Allah bless us all.
Peace
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Peace
Refreshing the topic and may you have some idea too )
I have explained why we should read our book but do not brain wash our children with our understanding and let them do their own search when they reach to age 14-16 and access to this screen.
It is almost one year and only 30 people share the idea here. The reason for such low result is due to religious category of publicizing the concept. Each have their own book or same book but different ideas and then what would happen if we close all those 4200 books and stop teaching them, it is end of religious corporations. Unemployed clergies and scholars which majority of them are living by explaining God's word when God's prophet was not allowed to teach and explain without PAY. -
Someone else have taken that job and they are brainwashed anyway.. so as the adults
They have already implanted the subliminal ideas into your subconscious mind.. miracles! magic!
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZTyLOk3m9M
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=plcVyx6V7ms
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8lncNdBzDA
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoBfpP4pMRk
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QObPj36CV9Ethe consequences...
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJnFZKbSqxw
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=67tE0UD4PhE
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcmTbFM1S7sand you still believe that you are going to rely or solve this through numbers? laugh
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Peace Bahman.
The " books" are becoming less and less. anyway How many bookshops are closing or changing into other...
The World Wide Webb ( WWW ) will slowly kill the " books".
By the way W = " " in Arabic its numerical value is 6 .( WWW = 666).The mark of the beast or the awaken er for the masses?
It is interesting how in sura 47 called " Muhammed" God says
... If you turn away, He will substitute other people in your place, and they will not be like you.
God is talking to those who think they own Qoran but have abused and are still abusing Qoran.
Praise be to God ,Lord of the universe.Peace to you.
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Do we need 19 to believe in God?
No. We don't.
Quranically speaking, to believe in God is to ponder Quranic texts and study nature and reflect.
Not spamming numbers. -
Peace,
To believe we need Faith only.
God bless you
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Peace with you all, sun
".. to believe in God is to ponder Quranic texts and study nature and reflect".
Yes, I emphasis this one.
Why do we need books, prophets, ect... Well, I think because human beings need warning and to be reminded because with the time people mix the true message with tradition or cult, or what ever - human being recollect yourself!
To bethink oneself of the logical thinking and to comprehend that we can't go true a wall, means we can't change the nature rules. Not only we are allowed to govern the earth, it's more our dealing with everything what God left us in trust on this earth and to treat that righteous. For me that is responsibility.
As a side note So I am responsible for the hungry, although I give something from my income. But that isn't
real help. Real help would be to don't take anything from the poor, means to not harm their life -physical and
psychological (a.ex. exploitation). The same counts for the nature. For me that means peace. All
mentioned is only an approach that I try to keep with me.Do we need holy books? I think not everyone needs a holy book to believe in a creator, because this kernel is in us.
Sometimes we need, because we need maybe an approval for that what we think or belief; Uncertainty belongs to the human nature.To believe in God is a private issue, because it is personal and individual matter between a human being and God.
May God lead us to the right path
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Do we need 19 to believe in God?
No. We don't.
Quranically speaking, to believe in God is to ponder Quranic texts and study nature and reflect.
Not spamming numbers.Peace
Missing this tread for while, God authored several time that Quran is confirming previous scripture , how Quran can do this hence do not have any proof like previous scriptures, the only proof for existence of God and His words is design of superhuman Textual Numerical Interlocking System which can be witnessed and understand by those that have knowledge of INTERLOCK.
Peace