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17:36 Paradox for non 'Arabs

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    huruf
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    Peace

    One of satans tricks is to make you believe you have less than you actually have.
    If you have internet access, you have access to Quran Corpus. From there you can easily cross reference the Arabic via grammar and see your own understanding. For instance here is Word By Word for 1736
    http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=17&verse=36#%2817361%29
    On the left hand side you can click "translation", this will show you the verse. You can click Word By Word too in order to go to that part of the verse straightaway (this took me a while to figure out so pay attention so you don't have to!)

    This will all become clearer as you get to know allah. Allah is The Light of the Heavens and Earth, so we know Allah = The Light. It's as simple as two choices, which dissolve into One when you surrender to The Light. There is a choice to go up, and there is a choice to go down. All other choices are false choices in the world of illusion. You choose Up, then The Light will lead the way. You choose Down, you choose wrong, simple as that. If you go Up, you will feel it. Your body will get healthier physically, mentally, spiritually. Your soul feels nearer to Allah.

    At first this path will be hard. With sustained practice, this path will be easy. It's so simple a gnat can do it, so do you think the Creator of Man, with all of his faculties of understanding, reasoning, contemplation, do you think the Creator has left us to wander blindly without guidance?

    You have a few messengers talking to you

    The messenger in your own heart - your own Ruh (Spirit/Breath)
    The messenger in your own self - the conscience
    The messenger who brings the truth, and your role as the one who accepts it (3933)
    The messengers who have delivered the message of The Book any religion, faith, spirituality, all has the path

    And leaving that aside you have

    The angelic presence (they love cleanliness and virtue)
    The jinn presence (some love cleanliness, some don't. Be clean!)

    And most of all you have

    Allah, the Light of the Heavens and Earth.

    So if you have a problem, talk directly to Allah but heed the call of all of these messengers. The Jinn beings watch and wait for you to slip, some of them. You feel that force which comes in and washes away and makes you forget, and drowns you in a wall of fuzz so you can't pay attention clearly? That's the jinn presence, the dark one.

    If you stay in the Light, the path is lit clearly.

    The satan will give you plenty of tricks left right and centre. It's up to one to espouse the quality of humility, this will raise oneself to the higher vibration.

    Of utmost importance is that you become your own Self and not other selves. Of utmost importance is that you take Your time and walk gently and in peace. In such circumstances you are raised. Of utmost importance is choosing that which raises us moment by moment, however much we can (6416)

    If you don't know something, then start from the ground up and stick to basics. If it works, do it. If it doesn't work, don't do it. Simple.

    Leaving that aside. You then have space, a large space called Earth. On it are many objects, objects you can pick up and work with - books of all kinds. They will help you on your journey. The Light does not demand that we shrink and turn averse. Rather The Light demands that we become the highest expression of our own Self, and only then can we master the universe.

    hmm peace

    Good and useful message, and the tool

    http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=17&verse=36#%2817361%29

    I recomend it wholeheartedly, really really useful, whether youknow Arabic or you don't you can do wonders with it. It has allowed me to get real understanding of many things, of course putting in the work to get the benefits. But really great.

    So I agree nobody is helpless in his or her efforts to get ht emost of qur'an.

    Salaam

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      salik
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      Salaam everyone,

      Imagine there's a lake, this lake hidden deep within a forest, this forest filled with fruits and thorns.

      The Quran is the shore surrounding the lake, the forest is the sunnah that exists in the world that leads to the lake - in hadith, in minds, in tradtions
      the thorns are the false hadith, the misquotes, the false prophets, all the error that stands in the path.

      Allah is the light and creator of the lake and the forest and the metaphor and my computer and so on.

      I was trapped in a prison in virginia as a juvenile, had been raised in a muslim family but was a hardcore follower of scientism (the idea that science has the final say in truth and reality)

      All I had was a Quran and a few simple suras memorized. I studied the arabic alphabet and then would stare for hours at a single side by side english arabic translation. Going back and forth between the memorized sound, the forms of the letters I now knew, and the meaning in english. (I began doing my 5 prayers and even fasted one ramadan)

      Few years later I was released and totally abandoned what I had come to love and know. The very root meaning of the word Kufr (ka fa ra - to cover up/conceal/reject) in exchange for the pleasures of friendship that I had before incarceration. Inevitably those pleasures died just as the growth the tiller loves turns to dust.

      Now I sit with the yusuf ali translation and everytime there's something ambiguous I first find the verse on the corpus quran site. Then I find the word and I find the root letters (there given at the top of the page when you choose a specific word)

      From there I go to this http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm I know they have an app on some devices.

      I cannot stress the importance of deeds. Scholarship is beautiful, but I have found my path opened and drawing nearer through righteous action.

      May Allah guide us all, and make our paths open and clear, and increase us in knowledge, and destroy falsehood, and allow us islam and the path of the prophet. May we be granted yaqeen (certainty). May we die with laillaha in our hearts and minds and tongues.

      (it may be helpful to know the word "hadith" simply means talk. What talk will you believe in?)

      ameen

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