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Salaam
I am not your Rabb (educator). I am pupil of God like you and i will try to respond according to my own understandingCan somebody explain to me what will happen to us after death according to Qur'an ?
Good pupils go to garden of imaginary (Jenna of Jinns). Rejectors and idolaters spirit will be separated (adhab) from the great teacher and destroyed in jehennem.
it is God who will decide how much that separation/destruction will be painfull and how long it will last.If you are a true believer will you go directly into paradise or will you wait till Day of Judgment ?
wrong question. idolaters are true believers and they will not go to jenna.
Believer is bad traduction for word Mo'omin. Jenna is for good pupils who take care of the AMANA (trust) given to them by God. Amana is words of God.concerning wainting or not, i don't know and it is not important for me.
What if you are a true believer(you believe in God, Quran, Day of Jugment, prophets) but you don't do zaqat, salat, fasting during ramadan etc?
Good point if you dont do the stupid rituals.
salat is connecting to god through his words in order to get mind purification (zakat).
Saoum is spiritual retreat consacrated to words of God.Sadaqa (charity) is considered as loan to god. If you trust in God, you should give the loan he asked for.
What if you are not muslim but you are a good man ?
you spirit of bad pupil will be separated from the teacher you rejected. Perhaps separation will be not painfull.
if you are good man but idolater (mushrik), God will not forgive you.
Good and bad is not the good criterion. Quran never said good people will go to jenna.Muslim means receive. You can be muslim, good man and go to hell if you mixed words of gods with words of other teachers.
what if you are not muslim and you are a bad man ?
painfull separation if you rejected words of God.
Please notice that a christian or Jew or zoroaster that have never read quran can be considered as Muslim by God.Is it true that angles "beat" spirit of unbelievers and what does it mean ? does it mean that they do it till the day of jugment ? what about "the life after death will be similar to dreaming" and what does it stands for ? for believers, for unbelievers ?
what about "life in the grave" ?
Can dead people hear us ?cannot respond.
life after death can be similar to dreaming in a sense that our spirit and our body are two differents things. Dont know what will happen to our body.Can somebody explain what is the "ticket to paradise", which are the major rules we must follow to get "ticket to paradise" and which are the major rules "we must follow" to destroy our chance of getting "ticket of paradise" ?
and the last oneYou have to read quran and ask god to purify (zakat) your mind.
Reading free-minds.org can help you if you have already studied the quran. if not, it will astray you with 100% chance simply because you are taking other arbabs.
So response is study, study and study and never mix words or take other rabb(teacher) than God.Peace
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Selam drfazl,
Sorry I took a while i reply. I had to re-read what you had written and i hadn't had a chance to go onto my laptop to reply. Thank you for your effort and explanation. I'm glad you have made the meanings of nafs and ruh clearer to me. By ruh we mean spirit yes? Sorry my arabic isn't great...
One question i didn't see you answer or voice your opinion on is this one
Do we dream whilst we sleep and are unconscious til judgement day? I remember hearing that Far'awn (or as some may translate is as Pharaoh) apparently had 2 nightmares per day til the day comes... but i can't remember where i heard this from... What kind of state are we in when we die? Some form of a deep sleep? But dreams don't occur in a deep sleep.. or do they...
Peace and thanks for your comprehensive answer ).
peace
Sushi1992, Salam,
By ruh we mean spirit yes?
RUH is the word of Allah, such as His Promise, Gladtidings, Admonition, Guidance, Teachings, Explanation and such of all the ways of straight path towards a glorious unending life from this world to the hereafter, which we breathe; and this becomes the breather of an individual not only during his hardest times, but also without his knowledge he is breathing only tomorrow or the next of what he is living presently. Ruhul Quddus is the receiver of the Words, the RUH i.e., the receiver of the Trust of Allah who is the appointed Messenger Angel, Jibril; he becomes the Soul for each one of us who is always present in our heart of hearts. This Soul or the Messenger Jibril, Ruhul Quddus conveys the Will or the RUH of Allah to our mind as His promising path for our loveliest and the most beautiful future.
To summarise, Allah breathes His RUH to our Soul, the Jibril who conveys the Message of Allah, the RUH to our Mind. This is the 'Wahi' or the Unseeable Inspiration of the Hour next in store for each of us, individually according to each one's measure of the belief in the Unssen, which life would unfold and reveal itself from within you so that you become a blossoming flower yourself.
This is the point of reception of the Will of Allah which becomes our Wish or the dear most need. Thus our mind houses the Will or the Wahi of Allah as our Wishful belief of tomorrow. From this point our life starts moving based on what we have in the mind whether we stuff our minds with the desires of our liking of the manifest things and forms on the earth, or, the unseen wisdom of 'RUH-infused-Will' of Allah? These are the left-handed and the right-handed people based on the course they take up in the whole of their lives. We are idol worshipers when we desire in our minds all the glittering of the manifest things. And when we keep in our mind the Wish of the unseen Will of Allah, yet to be created and that which is duly measured for us, they are of the righteous category. The Final judgement of a human being is with Allah; and we are not to entertain ourselves on that anytime in our entire lives.
Regarding your grand dad, you sushi1992, have to erase his memory from your mind to better understand what follows this post...
Up to this you have to ascertain from the Truth of The Book to proceed further on your query. Kindly put your questions and doubts up to this...
Peace.
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Sushi1992, Salam,
By ruh we mean spirit yes?
RUH is the word of Allah, such as His Promise, Gladtidings, Admonition, Guidance, Teachings, Explanation and such of all the ways of straight path towards a glorious unending life from this world to the hereafter, which we breathe; and this becomes the breather of an individual not only during his hardest times, but also without his knowledge he is breathing only tomorrow or the next of what he is living presently. Ruhul Quddus is the receiver of the Words, the RUH i.e., the receiver of the Trust of Allah who is the appointed Messenger Angel, Jibril; he becomes the Soul for each one of us who is always present in our heart of hearts. This Soul or the Messenger Jibril, Ruhul Quddus conveys the Will or the RUH of Allah to our mind as His promising path for our loveliest and the most beautiful future.
To summarise, Allah breathes His RUH to our Soul, the Jibril who conveys the Message of Allah, the RUH to our Mind. This is the 'Wahi' or the Unseeable Inspiration of the Hour next in store for each of us, individually according to each one's measure of the belief in the Unssen, which life would unfold and reveal itself from within you so that you become a blossoming flower yourself.
This is the point of reception of the Will of Allah which becomes our Wish or the dear most need. Thus our mind houses the Will or the Wahi of Allah as our Wishful belief of tomorrow. From this point our life starts moving based on what we have in the mind whether we stuff our minds with the desires of our liking of the manifest things and forms on the earth, or, the unseen wisdom of 'RUH-infused-Will' of Allah? These are the left-handed and the right-handed people based on the course they take up in the whole of their lives. We are idol worshipers when we desire in our minds all the glittering of the manifest things. And when we keep in our mind the Wish of the unseen Will of Allah, yet to be created and that which is duly measured for us, they are of the righteous category. The Final judgement of a human being is with Allah; and we are not to entertain ourselves on that anytime in our entire lives.
Regarding your grand dad, you sushi1992, have to erase his memory from your mind to better understand what follows this post...
Up to this you have to ascertain from the Truth of The Book to proceed further on your query. Kindly put your questions and doubts up to this...
Peace.
dear dr,
- 'i / me ' means only 'my mind'.
- soul means 'jibreel', the soul of humanity is one.
- RUH - the word of Allah, our breath.
please tell me, have i understood rightly.
Peace.
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Selam DrFazl and sorry for the late response, i have been much busy...
All praises be to God I understand what you mean. The question of if we have dreams til judgment day however still fascinates me. What are your views on this. Is there any Quranic evidence? Or do we simply "sleep" til that hour has come.
Peace
Sushi
peaceSushi1992, Salam,
By ruh we mean spirit yes?
RUH is the word of Allah, such as His Promise, Gladtidings, Admonition, Guidance, Teachings, Explanation and such of all the ways of straight path towards a glorious unending life from this world to the hereafter, which we breathe; and this becomes the breather of an individual not only during his hardest times, but also without his knowledge he is breathing only tomorrow or the next of what he is living presently. Ruhul Quddus is the receiver of the Words, the RUH i.e., the receiver of the Trust of Allah who is the appointed Messenger Angel, Jibril; he becomes the Soul for each one of us who is always present in our heart of hearts. This Soul or the Messenger Jibril, Ruhul Quddus conveys the Will or the RUH of Allah to our mind as His promising path for our loveliest and the most beautiful future.
To summarise, Allah breathes His RUH to our Soul, the Jibril who conveys the Message of Allah, the RUH to our Mind. This is the 'Wahi' or the Unseeable Inspiration of the Hour next in store for each of us, individually according to each one's measure of the belief in the Unssen, which life would unfold and reveal itself from within you so that you become a blossoming flower yourself.
This is the point of reception of the Will of Allah which becomes our Wish or the dear most need. Thus our mind houses the Will or the Wahi of Allah as our Wishful belief of tomorrow. From this point our life starts moving based on what we have in the mind whether we stuff our minds with the desires of our liking of the manifest things and forms on the earth, or, the unseen wisdom of 'RUH-infused-Will' of Allah? These are the left-handed and the right-handed people based on the course they take up in the whole of their lives. We are idol worshipers when we desire in our minds all the glittering of the manifest things. And when we keep in our mind the Wish of the unseen Will of Allah, yet to be created and that which is duly measured for us, they are of the righteous category. The Final judgement of a human being is with Allah; and we are not to entertain ourselves on that anytime in our entire lives.
Regarding your grand dad, you sushi1992, have to erase his memory from your mind to better understand what follows this post...
Up to this you have to ascertain from the Truth of The Book to proceed further on your query. Kindly put your questions and doubts up to this...
Peace.
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Selam DrFazl and sorry for the late response, i have been much busy...
All praises be to God I understand what you mean. The question of if we have dreams til judgment day however still fascinates me. What are your views on this. Is there any Quranic evidence? Or do we simply "sleep" til that hour has come.
Peace
Sushi
peaceFirst, there is no Quranic evidence that you dream after your death; but the people belonging to the two sections on the Hour of the Resurrection i.e. tihe people belonging to the left hand and to the right hand are in a state of sleep till the Hour has come 3652. Those who were the Foremost when their lives were captured with "Salamun Alaikkum", they are alive and are never considered dead 1632; 2154; 3157.
Similar to the Foremost, there are the bottom most people occupying the bottom most strata of the hell who also will be alive until the day of resurrection, and to who the hell life would be shown for real, into which they are to be cast.
Again there is no Quranic evidence that says, the dead do dream.
Peace,
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Salaam dr fazl,
Thank you for this interpretation. It is interesting to think it is why only certain righteous people seem to go straight to Heaven upon death, as one understands by reading the Quranic passages, but with your explanation it becomes more clear now. I never thought about this certain difference between the Elite and the standard Heaven-dwellers.
Those "ultra-righteous" people seem to get a shortcut to Heaven, while those who have to be judged have to wait, ie for Lower Heaven or Hell, and perhaps Purgatory where those who are on the edge of Hell seem to end up, but I am not sure about the Purgatory.
This means prophets and messengers are already reclining on comfortable chairs in the sun with a glass of wine by now. Now I want to work even harder for redemption. )
I knew the Quran was not contradicting itself with this that at some portions of the Book you get the feeling some people get to Heaven immediately upon death, while at other parts it seems like they too have to wait until the Hour. Now it turns clear that there is a difference between the higher and lower Heaven.
Of course, God knows best, but I am glad being allowed a share of the Knowledge and Wisdom, the Truth. Now God has made his work through someone, and I constantly pray for guidance regarding the questions I have about the Quranic phrases.
God bless you
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Peace brother,
That was so true. Let the Light guide us.
God speed
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Peace,
The nafs or mind is an entity to receive the glad tidings and the admonitions through His Ruh, as He sends down His Soulful commandhuman's life is as simple as this.
Peace.Peace drfazl,
Is not the nafs also the soul?
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Waittaqoo yawman la tajzee nafsun
AAan nafsin shay-an wala yuqbalu minha shafaAAatun wala yu/khathu minha AAadlun
wala hum yunsaroona.Beware of the day when no soul
can avail another soul, no intercession will
be accepted, no ransom can be paid, nor can anyone be helped.peace
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Ok now I see...things are getting complicated so I will make a simply question. What will happen on Judgement Day or Will everyone be judged on Judgment Day or Who will be judged on Judgment Day?
Judgment Day is when the Father organizes His Children into the "new heavens and the new earth" to follow the time when the current heavens and the current earth pass away. All of this work to organize His Eternal Family takes about 1,000 years to perform.
This process is alluded to when God creates Adam in His exact image and likeness and gives Him dominion over all things and charges Him to give every living thing a new "name". Depending upon what name a living soul receives, this determines what role they are fore-ordained to accomplish in the next round of creation. If they perform well they can advance. If they do not perform well then they regress. All of us come into this life with some level of privilege and expectation we are responsible for. So, we were all assessed and then assigned some kind of capacity when this process of giving out the new names is performed by Adam and it shall repeat again as we go into a new cycle of creation. The blueprint Adam uses to categorize everything is the creation account itself. So, rather than looking at the creation account as pertaining directly to the creation of the sun, moon, planets, stars, plants, fishes, birds, animals, etc. there is a different, more precise way of understanding what is being spoken about. These are all symbolic in nature to depict the level of spiritual glory a soul has the capacity to function in when they go into the "world to come".
For example, if you read 1 Corinthians chapter 15 where Paul talks about how the resurrection of the dead in the "world to come" works, he draws upon all of these symbols in the creation account. Some shall be resurrected in the glory of the sun, moon and stars. Some will receive flesh likened in glory to that of fishes, fowls, creeping beasts and of man. All of this pertains to where the Father "names" us to function.
This makes more sense when you look at the entire creation account as a master blueprint for the cycle of creation we are presently in
Look at Day 4. It says the "greater light to rule the day" is created but it isn't referring to our actual sun shining in the sky. As I see it, it is saying that during the 4th millennia of this cycle of creation that the person who would become the great leader to establish the light and truth of the fullness of the glory of God would be born. Of course, this pertains to Jesus who came in the 4th millennia since the beginning. He called himself the light and life of the world because that is what he was ordained to fulfill. However, he won't actually rule and reign as such until he returns in glory.
Look at what Day 5 of the creation account says. This is when the creatures of the waters wherein dwells the breath of life would manifest. What do we see in the 5th millennium since the beginning? We see the apostles of Jesus being sent out as "fishers of men". We hear their witness that the resurrected Lord in a body of flesh and bone takes cooked fishes into His body. What do Christians symbolize themselves as? Fishes. How are they "cooked"? They are baptized by water and by fire, which is receiving the Holy Ghost, the "breath of life". This is why being spiritually born-again is so important to them.
When you get to Day 6 we see Adam comes at the end in the latter days so that He can make a new beginning and kick off a new cycle of Creation. This is when Daniel prophesies that Michael the prince shall stand up to receive His kingdom, but there shall be war in heaven. This is the fight between Adam and the Serpent that takes place at that time when the Father's Kingdom is being established during the 6th millennium. Sadly, the Serpent beguiles Adam's Bride (the Church) and they are driven out into the lone and dreary wilderness where the Adversary can afflict them and take them for a spoil until their day of redemption comes via Son of Man (Seth).
Taking the symbols in the creation account as pertaining to actual people is explicitly established when you read Genesis 24 where it says everything in the creation account pertains to the generations of the heavens and the earth. When it says "generations" it means people. Thus, this means that all of the souls of the people are organized ahead of time as pertaining to where they are born and what conditions in life they shall enjoy.
For example, if Adam gives you a name of "fish" then you will come fourth in the next round of creation as a Christian. If you are named as "Adam" then you shall participate again as one of those who participate as a member of Adam's body of flesh and bone to conduct this great labor of establishing the Kingdom of the Father on earth and performing this massive work of gathering genealogy and performing sacred ordinances in holy temples for every soul that has ever lived in the now closing cycle of creation.
This post is a bit long, but it may help you further understand this
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Peace hawk99,
Soul is the real-self whereon the RUH of Allah descend bearing His Commands and Guidance; and Glad-tidings and warnings which is communicated to the nafs or the mind wherein already is the instituted behaviours and desires of the mankind. Here his criterion should work and shall make the right choice between the desires of nafs and the Will of RUH. And the Soul will be the prime witness for or against any one whether he abided or not by the command of the RUH.
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This post is a bit long, but it may help you further understand this
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605190.msg325064#msg325064
Peace
Can you summarise and brief your conclusion with regard to man as to what this present heavens and the earth means; and the next and the next; and the cycle with reference to the purpose of man's creation and Father?
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Can you summarise and brief your conclusion with regard to man as to what this present heavens and the earth means; and the next and the next; and the cycle with reference to the purpose of man's creation and Father?
I will try to.
The creation account is a master blueprint of one cycle of creation with each day being a millennium. All of the things mentioned in it pertain symbolically to people and the levels of glory they are fore-ordained to for that cycle of creation. Genesis 24 says this explicitly that all of the things mentioned in the days of creation are the "generations". This means it should all be resolved in terms of people, not cosmic stuff people try to make it into. This verse also says a creation is organized in a "day". This means that there is one millennium that is used to organize a new cycle so that there is a new heavens and a new earth planned out ahead of it actually manifesting. This simply means that all of the roles for the pattern to play out again are re-staffed and the cycle plays out in another round with new souls fore-ordained to act in different positions of responsibility. At the end of a cycle Adam comes to lay the foundation for a new cycle. He gives everyone their new names because it is His responsibility to perform the organization of all these things. Knowing the "Father" as Adam, in both the ending and the beginning of a cycle of creation, is a crucial piece of information to bring the whole crux of religion into a clear focus.
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I will try to.
The creation account is a master blueprint of one cycle of creation with each day being a millennium. All of the things mentioned in it pertain symbolically to people and the levels of glory they are fore-ordained to for that cycle of creation. Genesis 24 says this explicitly that all of the things mentioned in the days of creation are the "generations". This means it should all be resolved in terms of people, not cosmic stuff people try to make it into. This verse also says a creation is organized in a "day". This means that there is one millennium that is used to organize a new cycle so that there is a new heavens and a new earth planned out ahead of it actually manifesting. This simply means that all of the roles for the pattern to play out again are re-staffed and the cycle plays out in another round with new souls fore-ordained to act in different positions of responsibility. At the end of a cycle Adam comes to lay the foundation for a new cycle. He gives everyone their new names because it is His responsibility to perform the organization of all these things. Knowing the "Father" as Adam, in both the ending and the beginning of a cycle of creation, is a crucial piece of information to bring the whole crux of religion into a clear focus.
I take the very first sentence of this post to clarify so that it could serve as strong basis to comprehend before proceeding to other lines of your post one by one. I understand this summary involves millenniums ahead of things, prescribed and preordained in the master blueprint according to which the design will be unfolded during the course. This includes all the natural catastrophes, and the declining world order, ever-growing diseases; afflictions and sufferings of unimaginable and intolerable proportions; and disasters and destruction from every direction from the seas, from the land and from the skies above and from sources unknown. All this we witness without doubt and we shall know it is the unfolding of the destructive master blueprint. Every invention of man up to atomic knowledge, is more destructive than beneficial to man. Why this master blueprint is designed to be all destructive and that too preordained? If each day actually is a thousand years, our average life span is only 85 years, it amounts to not even 1/10th of a day of 24 hours. Thus our life on this world is just under 2.00 hours. Please tell us from the Genesis, how to plan and go down with the master blueprint of destruction, from birth in 2 hours countdown to death.
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I take the very first sentence of this post to clarify so that it could serve as strong basis to comprehend before proceeding to other lines of your post one by one. I understand this summary involves millenniums ahead of things, prescribed and preordained in the master blueprint according to which the design will be unfolded during the course. This includes all the natural catastrophes, and the declining world order, ever-growing diseases; afflictions and sufferings of unimaginable and intolerable proportions; and disasters and destruction from every direction from the seas, from the land and from the skies above and from sources unknown. All this we witness without doubt and we shall know it is the unfolding of the destructive master blueprint. Every invention of man up to atomic knowledge, is more destructive than beneficial to man. Why this master blueprint is designed to be all destructive and that too preordained? If each day actually is a thousand years, our average life span is only 85 years, it amounts to not even 1/10th of a day of 24 hours. Thus our life on this world is just under 2.00 hours. Please tell us from the Genesis, how to plan and go down with the master blueprint of destruction, from birth in 2 hours countdown to death.
I'm not quite sure how to respond to this post. I was talking about creation, not destruction. I also don't know how to respond to your last statement about a blueprint for destruction and the 2 hours to death.
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I'm not quite sure how to respond to this post. I was talking about creation, not destruction. I also don't know how to respond to your last statement about a blueprint for destruction and the 2 hours to death
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While the Qur'an contains critical truths, it is completely meaningless without the foundation of the Torah and the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Also, there are additional sacred texts that have been given since the Qur'an that if dismissed will simply deny oneself of the promised blessings foretold..
My questionnaire is based on the Truth of Quran, well preserved by God, whose word is just the other way to the concept of Torah, and the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Allah says you will not be able to assess or measure the time and period of even a single day and night
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Allah doth appoint night and day in due measure He knoweth that ye are unable to keep count thereof. So He hath forgiven you.325
He rules all affairs from the heavens to the earth in the end all is unto Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousand years of your reckoning.704
The angels and the soul ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is as fifty thousand yearsBased on this your signature could be the other way round
While the Torah and Bible contains critical truths, it is completely meaningless without the foundation of the Clear proof of Quran.
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My questionnaire is based on the Truth of Quran, well preserved by God, whose word is just the other way to the concept of Torah, and the teachings of Jesus Christ.
I don't see any need to diminish Torah or the New Testament at all. There is harmony between them and the Qur'an so far as I can see. In fact, some of what you quote below gives further evidence that the Qur'an explicitly supports my manner of understanding things.Allah says you will not be able to assess or measure the time and period of even a single day and night
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Allah doth appoint night and day in due measure He knoweth that ye are unable to keep count thereof. So He hath forgiven you.
The full context here is a chastening from Allah. It was according to His will that people should understand these things. He intended for them to but because of their own failings they failed to. This is why he graciously forgave and why in verse 5 He said "Surely We will make to light upon you a weighty Word." The fact that Allah forgave them for not knowing means that in due time He would go ahead and bring that understanding when it became immediately relevant to do so.Allah is not about keeping His devoted souls in the dark as you seem to be implying.
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He rules all affairs from the heavens to the earth in the end all is unto Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousand years of your reckoning.
This is truly an amazing passage that I was not aware of. I am somewhat new to the Qur'an. I have only read it about 3 times now. But, this coincides precisely with Genesis 24 where it says that all things of the creation were organized in a day. And, in my manner of interpretation, that "day" is a "Lord's Day" which 2 Peter 38 specifies to be "as a thousand years unto man". What this means to me is that in the end times there will be a Millennium where the whole next cycle of creation will be organized anew. The one creation will pass away and a new creation shall be birthed.704
The angels and the soul ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is as fifty thousand yearsThis is a new passage I am not familiar with either. I will study it and provide some feedback later. I'm sure there is something very valuable here for me to grasp so thank you for sharing it.
Based on this your signature could be the other way round
While the Torah and Bible contains critical truths, it is completely meaningless without the foundation of the Clear proof of Quran.
I agree that the Qur'an provides many critical keys of understanding that enables those who have failed to understand Torah, etc. to get back on track. It is clear to me that Jews and Christians are far afield in their interpretations of their texts and that they do need further guidance.
The thing you have to be careful about is there is nothing that I can see that assures the people of Islam that they won't go ahead and do the same as the early Israelites and the Christians did to fail to grasp things. In fact, that Sura you quoted from more or less implies that such would be the case and that in the end-times even the mainstream of Islam would need to be straightened out on some critical divergences.
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This is a new passage I am not familiar with either. I will study it and provide some feedback later. I'm sure there is something very valuable here for me to grasp so thank you for sharing it.
I read the whole sura and the only thing that came to my mind was that all souls at some point in time are allowed a jubilee, which means that all are relieved of their soul debts and allowed to begin again afresh. However, I didn't sense the liberation and freedom aspect of the jubilee as strongly as I think it should have been present if that is what the period of 50 "lord's days" as "a day". There is also the pattern of 50 days to Pentecost as well. Perhaps you have further information on what the 50 millennia pertain to?Also, I will mention, this passage obviously sets apart this day as an explicitly defined day or period. It doesn't negate the fact that elsewhere in the Bible and the Qur'an (as your quote affirms) that a Lord's Day is as a thousand years unto man. When the Lord means otherwise in some manner, He explicitly tells us.
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I don't see any need to diminish Torah or the New Testament at all. There is harmony between them and the Qur'an so far as I can see. In fact, some of what you quote below gives further evidence that the Qur'an explicitly supports my manner of understanding things.
The full context here is a chastening from Allah. It was according to His will that people should understand these things. He intended for them to but because of their own failings they failed to. This is why he graciously forgave and why in verse 5 He said "Surely We will make to light upon you a weighty Word." The fact that Allah forgave them for not knowing means that in due time He would go ahead and bring that understanding when it became immediately relevant to do so.I have plainly quoted the passage from 7320 and had not given my interpretation of it. I am in line with you but with a slight difference, which I have given in the red of your quote
The full context here is towards seeking Guidance from Allah. It was according to His will that people should understand the Truth of these things, He has intended for them. But because they took to their own innumerable deadly ways, leaving the One Straight Path from Him they meet with their dead end at which point they turn to God. This is why He Mercifully forgave, and more, in verse 5 He said "Surely We will make to light upon you a Mighty Promise." The fact that Allah forgave the humankind for their turning away from the Path of Reward that in due time He brings that understanding when it became immediately relevant to do so i.e., as they repent and turn to Him when all their efforts failed them, and with all humility and servitude.
I will give my understanding of the passages 325; 704 with reference to the relation between the man and his servants, the entire universe - as God has destined upon it.
Peace, brother.