To all of you Hijab supporters out there
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Whether Hjiab is obligatory or not is purely interpretation of the Quran. In my opinion, hijab is not obligatory. However, I have absolutely no problem with anyone wearing a hijab, in fact, my young sister (10 years) is wearing one.
However, I do not understand those people who are so wahabism-like type of people, who are so upressive against any woman who wears the hijab. Sometimes when I am (for example) with my sister outside I see people annoyed and iritated to see a any woman wearing a hijab like they seen an terrorist on the street. It's these kind of people I have a problem against.
There is no problem in women wearing the hijab, on the condition that they are not forced to.
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My answers to your questions....
- No. But living in a tiny village where I'm the only white revert, hijab is something that causes me to get stared/laughed at and tbh I feel less safe wearing it.
- I know I'm a muslim and I'm proud of that fact but I do not live in a muslim country and many women living here wear hijab even if they are not muslim for cultural reasons. So to wear hijab to prove/ show I'm muslim wouldn't really show much at all.
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My answers to your questions....
- No. But living in a tiny village where I'm the only white revert, hijab is something that causes me to get stared/laughed at and tbh I feel less safe wearing it.
- I know I'm a muslim and I'm proud of that fact but I do not live in a muslim country and many women living here wear hijab even if they are not muslim for cultural reasons. So to wear hijab to prove/ show I'm muslim wouldn't really show much at all.
Thanks sis for answering.
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What, don't Saudis wear hijab? I like them, they really look cool in it. And they also wear skirts and I suspect that the shorter ones also wear high heels, but the skirts cover them. Very nice.
Take good care of those hatreds, do not let them down, poor things. Nobody seems to like them these days.
Salaam
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You are welcome. That's only my view though and inshallah you'll get better ones from sisters who practice wearing hijab on a day to day basis (I only wear it going to jummah cos I don't think id be allowed to masjid without one) and someone who lives in a muslim country.
Good luck. )
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You are welcome. That's only my view though and inshallah you'll get better ones from sisters who practice wearing hijab on a day to day basis (I only wear it going to jummah cos I don't think id be allowed to masjid without one) and someone who lives in a muslim country.
Good luck. )
I think I can understand your reasoning.
But what about Rania Al Abdullah, born in Kuwait to Palestinian parents, the current Queen consort of Jordan? I cannot recall her ever wearing a hijab or any kind of covering.
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I think I can understand your reasoning.
But what about Rania Al Abdullah, born in Kuwait to Palestinian parents, the current Queen consort of Jordan? I cannot recall her ever wearing a hijab or any kind of covering.
This maybe a stupid question....is she muslim?
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"I feel safe when I am wearing the hijab"
"Safe" would mean no guys staring/flirting/being obsene -
"It gives me an identity as a muslim woman"
Now, my question is
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If the men would actually follow the guidance of the Quran, would you still feel like you needed to be protected?
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If you live in a muslim country, then why do feel like you need to be identified as a muslim? Shouldnt the hijab only be worn in places where there is a necessity to show you are a muslim?
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most men don't follow the Quran. it is about control and obedience.
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hijab in muslim country is a symbol showing off that you are holy and pious. Identity is not that you are a muslim but you are a "good practicing" muslim. It is a status symbol.
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most men don't follow the Quran. it is about control and obedience.
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hijab in muslim country is a symbol showing off that you are holy and pious. Identity is not that you are a muslim but you are a "good practicing" muslim. It is a status symbol.
Right in both counts.
There was enough phariseism and double talk in islamic societies previous to hijab. Hijab has been the cherry on the cake of appearances and social compulsion as opposed to heartfelt sincerity in living as sincere muslims. Sincerity is superseded by clothes, and only women are concerned with the obligation of looking "muslim". Men are above all that. Hypocrisy on the throne.
Queen Rania is a muslim. And I guess she is earning paradise the hard way. Does not seem to be very easy for her. But may God reward her for whatever good she manages to do in spite of everything. I am no knowledgeable about that question, so I won't go beyond those best wishes.
Salaam
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Sahih International
O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.The triliteral root jm lm b ( ب occurs twice in the Quran
Sahih International And incite whoever you can among them with your voice and assault them with your horses and foot soldiers and become a partner in their wealth and their children and promise them." But Satan does not promise them except delusion.
What could be common thing here...
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Salam Emil.
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Your question is about an impossible hypothetical. If all men in the world followed the Quranic guidance why would there be a need for hiijab as protection? The answer is obvious.
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No-one needs a piece of clothing to remind them that they are muslim. With the headscarf case, a person wearing it can become unmindful of who/what they represent however I feel they may be more inclined to be mindful of their actions. This is just my subjective opinion. A person wearing sport shoes/gear is more likely to run/exercise than a person who isn?t dressed to exercise (if their intention is to be more active for example).
Salam huruf
I never stated that it is so good. Just my perception as to why some people choose to cover their heads.
Many traditional muslim men adapt an identity i.e. the shaving of the moustache and the lengthening of the beards as well as keeping an even hair length. Some also believe that they should wear a kufi or some sort of head covering as they believe this emulates the prophet. Is this act as diverse as the headscarf? I believe not, at least not what I have witnessed. Besides these acts are not considered obligated whereas a headscarf is (regarding traditional sunni muslims) so there is bound to be more emphasis on the headscarf because of scholarly opinion.
People have many reasons why they decide to don the headscarf, for every individual it is different. I don?t believe it is a mockery but a form of expression. What they express differs from one individual to another, all based on their understandings. Admittedly some countries like Iran/Saudi do not allow choice so their expression is oppressed.
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"No-one needs a piece of clothing to remind them that they are muslim."
But according to the translation of the ayat I posted above Muslim women do need to remind others perhaps....
"...that is more suitable that they will be known..."
Does this mean that when I see a believing women I should be able to identify her by her clothes? To me it sound that way (again according to the translation). What are your understandings? -
Salam Emil.
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Your question is about an impossible hypothetical. If all men in the world followed the Quranic guidance why would there be a need for hiijab as protection? The answer is obvious.
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No-one needs a piece of clothing to remind them that they are muslim. With the headscarf case, a person wearing it can become unmindful of who/what they represent however I feel they may be more inclined to be mindful of their actions. This is just my subjective opinion. A person wearing sport shoes/gear is more likely to run/exercise than a person who isn?t dressed to exercise (if their intention is to be more active for
Salam Sarah
1.) Hes I know, I am talking of a Utopia.......But the point is if this hypothetical world would exist and the answer if the hijab is necessary is a "no" then the divinity of the hijab has left the building. Many sisters I know use this "excuse" that men leave them alone when wearing a hijab. What they dont realize is with this statement they say they are not wearing the hijab because Allah told them to but because of the crappy males. Because as far as I recall there is no verse saying men are horny little dogs that cannot control themselves.
2.) My reason for asking was to find out if there is any other explanation than subjective ones. Wanted to see if there is any Quranic reference that I may have overlooked.
I am not an anti-hijabber, I believe it is an individual choice that is to be respected. What I do however object to is when the reason becomes discriminating and subjective (I am referring only to point 1) because IMO there are as many female anti-men out there as there are male pigs. To wear a hijab as a symbol/reminder of ones faith is fine, but it should be holding the same status as a muslim beard.
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Salam Emil
I am not an anti-hijabber, I believe it is an individual choice that is to be respected. What I do however object to is when the reason becomes discriminating and subjective (I am referring only to point 1) because IMO there are as many female anti-men out there as there are male pigs. To wear a hijab as a symbol/reminder of ones faith is fine, but it should be holding the same status as a muslim beard.
Well said- i'm completly agree with you handshake
Note by us (EG) it's the Niqab which holds the same status as the beard.
peace peacefor answer your questions 1. without men or 'Quranic' men i didn't see any need for a hijab..
2. i'am wearing a hijab for many reasons- i don't like trouble (first with my husband and last for my children)
- i live in a country where much of womens wear it and it is a social tradition and if you wear it, then you are more respected
- and yes, i feel more save- because without hijab the mens are less respectful
- I like it because it is convenient and I'm rather lazy, what concerns styling my hair-and a protection against of the sun- no sunstroke ;D
again peace
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Salam Emil
Well said- i'm completly agree with you handshakeNote by us (EG) it's the Niqab which holds the same status as the beard.
peace peacefor answer your questions 1. without men or 'Quranic' men i didn't see any need for a hijab..
2. i'am wearing a hijab for many reasons- i don't like trouble (first with my husband and last for my children)
- i live in a country where much of womens wear it and it is a social tradition and if you wear it, then you are more respected
- and yes, i feel more save- because without hijab the mens are less respectful
- I like it because it is convenient and I'm rather lazy, what concerns styling my hair-and a protection against of the sun- no sunstroke ;D
again peace
Thanks sis!
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Salam Emil
Well said- i'm completly agree with you handshakeNote by us (EG) it's the Niqab which holds the same status as the beard.
peace peacefor answer your questions 1. without men or 'Quranic' men i didn't see any need for a hijab..
2. i'am wearing a hijab for many reasons- i don't like trouble (first with my husband and last for my children)
- i live in a country where much of womens wear it and it is a social tradition and if you wear it, then you are more respected
- and yes, i feel more save- because without hijab the mens are less respectful
- I like it because it is convenient and I'm rather lazy, what concerns styling my hair-and a protection against of the sun- no sunstroke ;D
again peace
Actually, I felt the opposite with hijab finding it very inconvenient. Pinning it and tucking it. Getting caught in the rain without an umbrella. Washing my hair was another issue as I had to completely dry my hair before putting on the hijab, etc. wearing a hijab in the summer - felt miserable.....
I have no issues at all with people dressing to show their identity or wearing a cross or Star of David or anything to identify their religious affiliations or ethnicity or culture - if anything i appreciate the diversity but the issue I have is what hijab has become. Looking down upon someone due to article of clothing is just wrong in my mind. The greatest issue that I have is when it is all attributed to God that commanded woman to cover every part of her body.
Back home if I don't wear a hijab, I am looked down upon and here if wear a hijab well I could be a target. Sigh.
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"......O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.
..."Does this verse not clearly show us that it was revealed, there were the wayward and hooligans in the streets harassing women going about their business? So, the believing women were asked to dress in a way that they be recognised to avoid being subject of hooliganism. There is another verse that says those in the streets who bother and harass women must be rounded up and punished.
Now, how do we apply this verse in this day and age. In societies were women are harassed on the streets for going about their business, women have an option of dressing up in a certain way to indicate they do not appreciate such attention.
In the West, where most women do not face such nuisance on the streets, perhaps dressing up in a modest manner should be good enough. We have, in contrast, women going around with full Niqab and one wonders if that is not a way to attract immediate unwanted attention, then what else is it?