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Chapter 51 - Angels driving winds?

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    jtc
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    Peace.

    There are a number of translators that seem to think the winds that collect clouds, and the subsequent rain that grows plants for us humans and other creatures are apparently controlled by angels.

    I tried looking to find the 'Arabic words that could possibly give this meaning, but could not find any. The specific verse is 514 and reads "Faalmuqassimati amran".

    Is there anyone who can understand where angels come into play in this verse or the previous verses of the chapter?

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      Mazhar
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      Salamun alaika,

      And swearing is by the Winnowing Winds, acting in the manner of spreading .

      Thereby, they are the up-lifter, individually a weight ;

      Thereat they are the Sailing ones, in comfortable smooth manner;

      Eventually they are the Distributors of the Commanded affair .

      Grand Qur'aan describes Winds and their Sub-Classification Semen of Stallion and Cloud Physics

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        jtc
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        confused

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          Peace jtc, Peace Mazhar,

          Mazhar gives a beautifully poetic rendition of 511-4.

          Truth is, angels are not given any mention at all. The reference to angels has been assumed by traditional exegeses, and the idea seems to have caught on.

          Personally, I think it could very well be a reference to angels as the servants of God. Or, perhaps it could be a reference to the natural laws which govern the subjects spoken about in the above verses, and in similar other verses.

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            Peace jtc, Peace Mazhar,

            Mazhar gives a beautifully poetic rendition of 511-4.

            Truth is, angels are not given any mention at all. The reference to angels has been assumed by traditional exegeses, and the idea seems to have caught on.

            Personally, I think it could very well be a reference to angels as the servants of God. Or, perhaps it could be a reference to the natural laws which govern the subjects spoken about in the above verses, and in similar other verses.

            Salamun alaika,

            Words are, as explained in the link, feminine active participles. And active participles are derived from present tense verbs. Thereby they cannot, by any stretch of imagination, be considered to have any reference for or linkage with the Angels.

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              Yes, I think that's a fair analysis.

              That would, of course, depend entirely on the perceived gender of the angels; if they are gendered at all.

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                Yes, I think that's a fair analysis.

                That would, of course, depend entirely on the perceived gender of the angels; if they are gendered at all.

                Pl refer 5327. Non believers in the Hereafter name them as feminine. Also please see the verbs where angels are the subject-doers to find those as masculine.

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