How to be a good Muslim?
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Peace.
I realize you are not familiar with philosophy of science when you ask what on earth is logical empiricism.Sorry if i didn't make it clear to you in the previous post. The study i made is my personal research to discover something for myself, whether the Quran is really from the God, by studying its contents. People claimed that the Quran and Hadith teachings are from God. I am very much exposed to the body teachings and at that time i just can't take it as the truth. Bcoz there are so many contradictions and many things did not fit into my scientific reasoning.
As i said, i went to a discourse, and was shown that there are many scientific facts and evidences can be found in the Quran. That motivated me to study the Quran in depth. This time it was just the Quran.
As i said i approached it with some background in science and theoretical positions, Covering Law and Logical Empirical, etc. What amazed amazed me is that i can derived and expand many more theoretical positions in the realm of scientific philosophy. In fact i managed to construct several concepts derived from the inter-related verses. Example, is the information theory and i quoted James Watson and Francis Crick to have derived about the same findings based on their study on phenomena of nature. It just happened that i studied the Quran and about the same time expose to their writings.
What Maurice Buccaile discovered are scientific facts and evidences which can be found also in the Quran. What i discovered are elements to arrive at constructing theoretical positions to expand the horizon of scientific philosophy which i share my findings in an academic seminar.
The discovery is enough for me to believe that the author of the Quran is a Supreme Intelligence, the Creator of the universe, Allah. Thus, i become a submitter and believer, as i see it from my position.
I am not here to prove to you anything, but to share my journey and discovery. Sorry.
All right, I can dismiss anything you say as absolute fabrication. I almost went and looked up what you could possibly mean by "logical empiricism" - but I know now that this must be some occult fabrication.
My goodness, are you for real? Dr. Maurice Bucaille? The inventor of Bucailleism 40 years ago? The corrupt French Catholic who caused so much damage to the reputation of Muslims and who is the reason why so many people laugh about the gullibility of some Muslims?
No, indeed, you don't need to prove anything to anybody. I just thought I need to take you seriously because your initial wording sounded interesting. Now I understand why you don't come clean and don't provide a single example or evidence for your claims.
Are you seriously saying that to be a good Muslim you need to believe what a Christian fraud has to say about your belief? A Christian who wrote lie after lie in his books and essays and he is the one who makes you realise that the Koran is of divine origin? Oh dear. I really don't know how to stay on a factual level and how to break it to you gently and without getting personal - but this is impossible. Come on, it's 2013 and nobody believes this any more. It has been proven to be fabricated and a bunch of lies over and over. Why do you need human-made science to verify the Koran anyway? I am totally flabbergasted.
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Peace zone,
Do not mind 'stops', he is one of those ones who cause a "disturbance in the Force". Better ignore and move on. Discussions lead nowhere.
God bless you
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Peace zone,
Do not mind 'stops', he is one of those ones who cause a "disturbance in the Force". Better ignore and move on. Discussions lead nowhere.
God bless you
I am truly sorry that you see me only as a disturbance. I really feel that I am making progress in understanding what believers believe - but still feel the need to show where people are being misled.
Would you tell a potential buyer of a car that the mileage had been manipulated if you knew this for a fact or would you keep quiet and let a fraudulent salesman get away with it?
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All right, I can dismiss anything you say as absolute fabrication. I almost went and looked up what you could possibly mean by "logical empiricism" - but I know now that this must be some occult fabrication.
My goodness, are you for real? Dr. Maurice Bucaille? The inventor of Bucailleism 40 years ago? The corrupt French Catholic who caused so much damage to the reputation of Muslims and who is the reason why so many people laugh about the gullibility of some Muslims?
No, indeed, you don't need to prove anything to anybody. I just thought I need to take you seriously because your initial wording sounded interesting. Now I understand why you don't come clean and don't provide a single example or evidence for your claims.
Are you seriously saying that to be a good Muslim you need to believe what a Christian fraud has to say about your belief? A Christian who wrote lie after lie in his books and essays and he is the one who makes you realise that the Koran is of divine origin? Oh dear. I really don't know how to stay on a factual level and how to break it to you gently and without getting personal - but this is impossible. Come on, it's 2013 and nobody believes this any more. It has been proven to be fabricated and a bunch of lies over and over. Why do you need human-made science to verify the Koran anyway? I am totally flabbergasted.
Peace.
Maurice Buccaile discovered some relevant scientific facts also mentioned in the Quran, yes, that was 40 years ago, according to his understanding of the facts of his time. I mentioned in the context of scientific facts available in the Quran. I read his book more than 30 years ago. I didn?t follow what happened to him after that, whether he is a liar, beyond me. Scientific facts evolved with time due to better understanding and intellectual positioning.
Among the facets of science is classification, description, explanation and ??????? I have made a ????????.. on your reaction to my last post. Since science also helps the scientist to find a solution to a problem which includes in the realm of human behavior from the perspective of Rules Theory, therefore I am sure you can figure out what the blanks are for.
I have mentioned that my intention was not to prove to you anything. I am not here to serve your ............
I think Man of Faith is right. This discussion lead to nowhere. Sorry. Bye.
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Peace stops,
Aww, then we will have to suffer from your presence still then. Glad to hear you are making progress in your understanding, better than stalemate and perhaps some day you can spend your spare time somewhere else.
I suppose that it a rhetorical question, but of course I would tell the buyer that someone had manipulated it.
I have the feeling you think that we have succumbed to the God delusion and that we make our lives miserable in our ignorance. I would say, for most part at least, that you are wrong. I live a wonderful and easy life myself with lots of time to study both any topic I want to read about and the best topic of them all, religion.
This is what I call life and I am grateful to God for it.
So what is the aim with your determination? Drive us away from a peaceful path?
God bless you
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I wish you were right. The Koran says - I think it is 82 times - that non-believers will be toasted.
Kufr is NOT 'non believer', Kufr is "those who hide/cover something"..
Example
Abraham's daddy invented gods, idols and it's accompanying myth, he tricked people to earn a living.
Abraham's daddy know for certain that those gods are fabricated lies..
When his son came up clean to his society, uncovering the lies, he tried to cover his own lies..
Abraham's daddy is a KUFR!
Abraham walk the talk, he acted upon seeing a falsehood and received dire verdict, death by burning..Another example
A corrupt politician/policeman/priest named Ahmed received bribes.
George expose the bribery with clear evidence.
Ahmed tries to cover his crimes and blaming George for another crime and persecute him to death by impalement..
Ahmed is a KUFR
George walk the talk, he acted upon seeing a falsehood and received dire verdict, death by impalement..Salam / Peace
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Peace.
Maurice Buccaile discovered some relevant scientific facts also mentioned in the Quran, yes, that was 40 years ago, according to his understanding of the facts of his time. I mentioned in the context of scientific facts available in the Quran. I read his book more than 30 years ago. I didn?t follow what happened to him after that, whether he is a liar, beyond me. Scientific facts evolved with time due to better understanding and intellectual positioning.
Among the facets of science is classification, description, explanation and ??????? I have made a ????????.. on your reaction to my last post. Since science also helps the scientist to find a solution to a problem which includes in the realm of human behavior from the perspective of Rules Theory, therefore I am sure you can figure out what the blanks are for.
I have mentioned that my intention was not to prove to you anything. I am not here to serve your ............
I think Man of Faith is right. This discussion lead to nowhere. Sorry. Bye.
If believing this makes you a better Muslim, then so be it. I don't even know why I care for the truth any more.
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Peace stops,
Aww, then we will have to suffer from your presence still then. Glad to hear you are making progress in your understanding, better than stalemate and perhaps some day you can spend your spare time somewhere else.
I suppose that it a rhetorical question, but of course I would tell the buyer that someone had manipulated it.
I have the feeling you think that we have succumbed to the God delusion and that we make our lives miserable in our ignorance. I would say, for most part at least, that you are wrong. I live a wonderful and easy life myself with lots of time to study both any topic I want to read about and the best topic of them all, religion.
This is what I call life and I am grateful to God for it.
So what is the aim with your determination? Drive us away from a peaceful path?
God bless you
Ok, fine.
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Peace,
How to be a good muslim continued
They ask you about intoxicants and gambling say, "In them there is a gross
sin, and some benefits for the people. But their sinfulness far outweighs their benefit."
They also ask you what to give to charity say, "The excess." GOD thus clarifies the
revelations for you, that you may reflect.peace
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Thanks for posting this verse.
Which translation are you using? I use corpus Quran, 5 different translations and there are differences in the translation and depending on which one, you walk away with different understanding. The one that you posted says "different rites". Y. ALi translates as "To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way". Corpus quran translates as "clear way".Peace justamuslim,
For that verse I used the khalifa translation because it simply makes sense and has the
proper flow. The Y. ALi translation as well as others regarding 5/48 are ambiguous.In my opinion, verse 2/213 must be understood to unravel the "once upon a time
there was one community" conundrum.The people used to be one community when GOD sent the prophets as
bearers of good news, as well as warners. He sent down with them the scripture,
bearing the truth, to judge among the people in their disputes. Ironically, those
who received the scripture were the ones who rejected any new scripture, despite
clear proofs given to them. This is due to jealousy on their part. GOD guides those
who believe to the truth that is disputed by all others, in accordance with His will.
GOD guides whoever wills in a straight path.peace
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I'm new to Islam. I'd def consider myself more of a free thinking Muslim, progressive, liberal, etc.
I was just wondering, what is the best way to be a good Muslim?Simply try to grasp the meanings of Verbal Noun "Islam" from where the active participle "Muslim" is derived and its Root is Root " "
That the dominant and pervasive perception and meanings infolded in the Root are that of healthy state of exactitude, validity, truth, and absolved causing wellness and tranquility. And therein is no deviation, irregularity, oddity, and abnormality disturbing wellness and tranquility. It portrays a state of peace, safety, tranquility and dynamic balance when the Man is secure from all sorts of things causing damage and disablement of that state. Obviously, it is the unique state and only source-a ladder that could enable the Man to elevate to stability, prosperity, development and all sorts of ascensions.
You can adjudge whether you were a Muslim when you did anything by considering whether that action was aimed at securing peace and tranquility not for one's self but also for all others around. If one leaves a public wash room in dirty state which might cause irk to another visitor, he was not in the state of Islam at that point in time. Islam encompasses every second of one's life. Honestly speaking me and many others are not in the fold of Islam many a times during the currency of a day.