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Salaam,
Earthdom is the ONLY PERSON so far who seems to understand the point of this thread.
And for the record those of you who insist on bringing up sectarianism and so called abandonment of these people by Allah, then according to your logic Allah must be on the side of the Zionist Occupants of Palestine, Great Britain and The United States REGARDLESS of how evil and monstrous the people of these countries are. Okay, I understand the mentality that I'm dealing with here. whatever
Like I said, read this thread from beginning to end so far and just know that Earthdom is the only one who gets the point of this thread.
Why negate the possibility of Allah being on the side of Israel, GB and US? After all, Allah blessed Israel from a desert backwater to a technology and innovative powerhouse that it is today. US is the sole superpower and the leader of the free world, on the blessings of Allah. Is it not?
There is far more evidence to suggest that Allah is on the side of these countries (in addition to the GCC states including Bahrain). Why does it seem such a far fetched idea to you?
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Bahrain is thousands of times better than the slaughter going on in Syria. If Israel helps to remove Assad, the sooner the better.
The recent airstrikes in Syria was a stern warning message to Iran. It's Syria this time, next time it would be Iran.
This Al Khalifa family developed Bahrain from nomadic desert-land to a country whose GDP/capita is at $27000, richer than 80% of the rest of the world. Where the US' Fifth Fleet is stationed, a result of which security is guaranteed.
Bahrain is an unique kingdom, this country is majority Shite, but the royal family is Sunni.
In the past Iran attempted to annex Bahrain, so thats why now Saudi is very protective to Bahrain, like create King Fahd bridges, and send some troops to help tackle the unrest.Saudi n USA (possibly) is concerned if Bahrain's royal familiy was toppled, Bahrain will change their political side to Iran.If I not wrong Israel ever did airstrikes to Syria in 2008, to blow up Syrian nuclear reactor which killed some scientist including North Koreans, and 2011/2012 Israel did the same too to Sudan for second time, first time to blow the weapon transport which belived to transferred into Hamas, in the second time to destroy Sudan national weapon factory, the reason is same to the first.
The strange is How Israel avoided international laws and easyly violate the sovereignity of another country?
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Bahrain is an unique kingdom, this country is majority Shite, but the royal family is Sunni.
In the past Iran attempted to annex Bahrain, so thats why now Saudi is very protective to Bahrain, like create King Fahd bridges, and send some troops to help tackle the unrest.Saudi n USA (possibly) is concerned if Bahrain's royal familiy was toppled, Bahrain will change their political side to Iran.I would say that is a valid concern. Bahrain would be worse under Iranian Ayatollahs. Al Saud may not be perfect, but they are hundred times better in managing country compared to Iranian regime. The prosperity which Bahrain enjoys today would be lost if Ayatollahs took over, with their anti western and isolationist policies. They're also craving for a scenario to ensure their 12th Imam emerges, which is one of the main motivator behind the Iranian regime's actions today.
If I not wrong Israel ever did airstrikes to Syria in 2008, to blow up Syrian nuclear reactor which killed some scientist including North Koreans, and 2011/2012 Israel did the same too to Sudan for second time, first time to blow the weapon transport which belived to transferred into Hamas, in the second time to destroy Sudan national weapon factory, the reason is same to the first.
The strange is How Israel avoided international laws and easyly violate the sovereignity of another country?
The answer is simple, because it's a politic.The answer is simple, but in the other way round.
Why did Sudan send weapons to Hamas in order to violate Israel's sovereignty by carrying out terrorist attacks?
Why was Syria intending to manufacture nuclear weapons, with the intent to violate Israel's sovereignty in the future?
Why is other country's sovereignty important to you, but not Israel's?
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I would say that is a valid concern. Bahrain would be worse under Iranian Ayatollahs. Al Saud may not be perfect, but they are hundred times better in managing country compared to Iranian regime. The prosperity which Bahrain enjoys today would be lost if Ayatollahs took over, with their anti western and isolationist policies. They're also craving for a scenario to ensure their 12th Imam emerges, which is one of the main motivator behind the Iranian regime's actions today.
By the way Saudi and Iran is in "cold war" by now.And Bahrain existence, can be say a... "buffer state"
Why did Sudan send weapons to Hamas in order to violate Israel's sovereignty by carrying out terrorist attacks?
Why was Syria intending to manufacture nuclear weapons, with the intent to violate Israel's sovereignty in the future?
Why is other country's sovereignty important to you, but not Israel's?
For Sudan case, the answer is it's leader, Omar Al BAshir.If you know,Omar Al Bashir was sanctioned by European and the US because Darfur incident and have some indication if Omar worked with terrorist.
Btw Omar worked with Hamas is also an idication from Israeli intelligence, true or not, I cannot say it.I don't know, what Syrian intentions, for build Nuclear reactors.Just for power electrical reactor or to build weapon,I dont know.But from my point of view, Bashad and his party is not like Saddam's Ba'ath.Syrian Ba'ath is friendly with American, and Bashar al Ashad himself has western style.He is not a type of person who create a dangerous weapon.
I dont care of another country or Israel soverignty, but I love mine country ).I just pray to Palestine n Israel, to make a peaceful relation, rather than kill each other just because a politics.
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GOOD EARTHDOM!! Very Good!
I can tell that you are not ignorant like some others here and you seem to know how to peel off the layers to get a better, more detailed look at things and do your own thinking instead of allowing the media to do your thinking for you. Please keep it up my friend.
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GOOD EARTHDOM!! Very Good!
I can tell that you are not ignorant like some others here and you seem to know how to peel off the layers to get a better, more detailed look at things and do your own thinking instead of allowing the media to do your thinking for you. Please keep it up my friend.
Anybody who disagrees with you are ignorants? How thoughtful.
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Peace
And about those cruel tormentors such as Us Uk France KSA Iran Israel and so on against the so called Muslims Allah declares thus
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And remember when your Lord declared that He would certainly keep on sending against them, till the Day of Resurrection, those wicked who would afflict them with a humiliating torment. Verily, your God is Quick in Retribution and certainly He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.If we are Muslims only unto Him, why should Allah treat us as criminals? We shall not blame anyone, any country en masse but turn to Him alone seeking from Him Forgiveness and Guidance, for He is all knowing, He is well Aware. Let us keep in mind we know only one path to get tortured and die a humiliating death at the hands of cruel rulers by shouting slogans and muscle flexing against the armies. Mostly the people believe in their gathering and in their numbers rather than singly believing in Allah, thus allowing Him to fight against the criminal rulers. Allah says never believe in your physical strength if you are Muslims and never advance before Me. Allah says Have patience if you want Me to be with you as Protector, as Helper and as Guide.
- Truly Allah has given you victory on many battle fields, and on the Day when you believed in your physical strength, the Hunain, and when you rejoiced at your great number but it availed you naught and the earth, vast as it is, was straitened for you, then you turned back in flight.
Hunain is a situation where you tend to believe in the strength of your people and armoury more than Allah; and Allah has already turned away from you. May Hunain not happen in our lives.
The smaller is your number, the dearer is the help of Allah. And smaller and smaller as your numbers thin out, the nearer is Allah with you. And when you become single because of your strength of belief in Allah alone, the situation is called 'Badr' at which point is Allah is nearest to you and your victory is well assured. Unless we are in Badr situation, we shall not have the fear for Allah. Allah is with those fearing Him.
May Allah Guide Us To Him Singly And May He Bless Us With PATIENCE so that He Himself is with us all.
Peace
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Peace drfazl,
Feels inhumane to agree with you, but I suppose God has reasons to be angry actually. Edit But God has reasons to be angry with most people on Earth.
God bless you
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Man of Faith
Peace
We are for Allah and I am for Allah
If use the word inhumane to agree with the Sunna of Allah
Then when by Allah's command and leave all these happen
It is like saying Allah is unholy.I am basing my view only from Quran. I want you to put your references from Quran to keep upgrading us by the moment, so that we rise well above from the movements of the people at large. We cannot follow the majority's sympathy opinion for if we do so we have to falter and fall from the great heights Allah had placed us to the lowest of low. Keep away from emotions! This could be a test from Allah unto the believers to prove their allegiance to Allah.
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Prace drfazl,
I meant, it may hypothetically feel inhumane to see what happens but that God has reasons to be angry. I am not questioning God's judgment.
You can pity those who go wrong in life, but you are not allowed to question God's final decisions. Remember the verse in Quran which says all bad is from yourself.
Yet you should not think that these people deserve this or that. Pray that they may become better and finally learn something. Try to spread the Word and its Message may some day reach the Middle-East (edit) and other parts of the world. I am in hibernation in Iran at the moment, but I am going to try sooner or later. It is just risky business here.
God bless you
Edit Regarding the topic of discussion; I think the U.S is not much better than the rest of the world. Sure there is some kind of democracy, but it becomes rich on illicit earnings. It is like a modern empire with immense arrogance. Nowadays the evil works are hidden by the media which broadcasts propaganda that people sadly believe in without questioning.
I am not saying, for example Iran, is any better. I know what is on their news channels. Only that the direct consequences of religious extremism is more severe.
God bless you
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There is only one true sect . . . going strong from day one. Ahl e Sunnah Wal Jamah.
Forgive me to rotfl rotfl rotfl
Bahrain is an unique kingdom, this country is majority Shite, but the royal family is Sunni.
In the past Iran attempted to annex Bahrain, so thats why now Saudi is very protective to Bahrain, like create King Fahd bridges, and send some troops to help tackle the unrest.Saudi n USA (possibly) is concerned if Bahrain's royal familiy was toppled, Bahrain will change their political side to Iran.I would say that is a valid concern. Bahrain would be worse under Iranian Ayatollahs. Al Saud may not be perfect, but they are hundred times better in managing country compared to Iranian regime. The prosperity which Bahrain enjoys today would be lost if Ayatollahs took over, with their anti western and isolationist policies. They're also craving for a scenario to ensure their 12th Imam emerges, which is one of the main motivator behind the Iranian regime's actions today.
Helloo.. remembered Iraq?
The same situation Shiite Majority with Sunnis in power (Saddam Hussein and the gang)And now the Sunnis cannot accept the fact that the shiites held power and they're doing bombing nearly everyday..
Iraq government (which is shiite majority government) today is not 'anti-western' or 'isolationist'.
It's the sunnis who caused mayhem, murders and spreading of fear in today's Iraq.Thus how can you say "When the Shiite majority grab power in Bahrain it will be worse than being under the Sunni's dynasty nepotism?"
So much about "The prosperity which Bahrain enjoys today would be lost if Ayatollahs/Shiite took over", it's actually the same propaganda being propagated by the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq during his heyday of power.
The Saudi's dynasty got a lot of fear to the shiites, due to their own wrongdoings to the shiites both in the past and up until today.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Shia_Muslims
Salam / Peace
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Peace,
Somehow I think people have more freedom in Iran than Saudi-Arabia. Just a first-hand neutral observation of Iran tells me that and external views of KSA.
Sure, alternative thinking can be risky in Iran, but it is still not as dangerous as people think.
The only hazardous factor in Iran is the unhealthy paranoia which has affected the Iranian government. They see Western propaganda everywhere and they think they need to defend their people and sovereignty. This defense takes its expression in heavy censorship of Internet, media and practically all external sources.
Still I think Iran is much better than people think in Western countries, also compared to other questionable countries in the world.
"Interviews" (or rather casual talk) with many Iranians tells me that a majority of them are not content with the problems the fanatic government is imposing on its citizens. Complaints are everywhere and many are open to liberal attitudes to religion.
Most of those who run out in the street yelling "death to America" are uneducated, ignorant people who are manipulated by the government media and propaganda. Most people have never set their foot abroad. The isolation has caused them to feel this way because it is easier to ask death to someone you have never seen.
Despite this I can actually understand the reluctance to let some elements of the Western world to come to Iran like people running around almost naked, extreme haircuts, nasty attitude, vulgarity and many other irreligious elements to a country which is pretty spared from that kind of behavior.
Although I think, Iran will make its population get tired in time and just stop supporting their country. But as long as they keep their population uneducated and living in ignorance and under regime propaganda and indoctrination it will be fine. They will have yet a majority of the population in their tight grip.
Nevertheless, I think Iran is better than KSA.
God bless you
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Pixelrow,
2868 And your God creates what He wills and chooses; not for them was the choice. Exalted is Allah and high above what they associate with Him.
Sunnah Wal Jamah is surely going wrong from day one.
Peace.
The above doesn't say much does it? All you have said is
"Sunnah Wal Jamah is surely going wrong from day one."
Just because you claim it . . . doesn't make it so. As it is a simple statement. The I dismiss it in a similar fashion . . .
Sunnah Wal Jamah is surely the one true path from day one.
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The Saudi's dynasty got a lot of fear to the shiites, due to their own wrongdoings to the shiites both in the past and up until today.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Shia_Muslims
Salam / Peace
This may be correct. I don't know. I am of the opinion that the Saudi Dynasty feels "threatened" by Iran due to Iran's Revolutionary Ideology as compared to Saudi Arabia. Each country stake claims to being Islamic Countries but only Iran has the testicles to stand up against The Great Satan and practice their sovereignty how they see fit without America's say so and regardless of how America feels about it whereas it's no secret at all that Saudi Arabia is one of America's many, many prostitutes that they have set up all over the world.
I seriously believe Iran, Syria, China and North Korea are the only regimes left on this planet which would have the courage to resist The United States' and The Zionist Occupants of Palestine's plans for complete world domination and, in the case of China, North Korea and Iran, the military strength to actually bloody their noses.
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Helloo.. remembered Iraq?
The same situation Shiite Majority with Sunnis in power (Saddam Hussein and the gang)And now the Sunnis cannot accept the fact that the shiites held power and they're doing bombing nearly everyday..
Iraq government (which is shiite majority government) today is not 'anti-western' or 'isolationist'.
It's the sunnis who caused mayhem, murders and spreading of fear in today's Iraq.Thus how can you say "When the Shiite majority grab power in Bahrain it will be worse than being under the Sunni's dynasty nepotism?"
So much about "The prosperity which Bahrain enjoys today would be lost if Ayatollahs/Shiite took over", it's actually the same propaganda being propagated by the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq during his heyday of power.
The Saudi's dynasty got a lot of fear to the shiites, due to their own wrongdoings to the shiites both in the past and up until today.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Shia_Muslims
Salam / Peace
You are incorrect in saying that Sunnis are causing Mayhem in Iraq. It is both sides. Shias have their own terrorist groups too - Muqtada Al Sadr, Mahdi Army etc... They also kill Sunnis. Although I agree it is nowhere nearly the same level as Saddam did.
Today's Bahrain is very different from Iraq back then. It's GDP per capita is $27000, whereas Iraq's was not more than a few thousands. Iraq was never prosperous, it was just militarily powerful.
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This may be correct. I don't know. I am of the opinion that the Saudi Dynasty feels "threatened" by Iran due to Iran's Revolutionary Ideology as compared to Saudi Arabia. Each country stake claims to being Islamic Countries but only Iran has the testicles to stand up against The Great Satan and practice their sovereignty how they see fit without America's say so and regardless of how America feels about it whereas it's no secret at all that Saudi Arabia is one of America's many, many prostitutes that they have set up all over the world.
I seriously believe Iran, Syria, China and North Korea are the only regimes left on this planet which would have the courage to resist The United States' and The Zionist Occupants of Palestine's plans for complete world domination and, in the case of China, North Korea and Iran, the military strength to actually bloody their noses.
Al Saud dynasty has nothing to fear the shias. There are 3.5 million Shias living in Saudi Arabia. They have more rights than Sunnis have in Iran. They also have representatives in Mecca.
The problem is the Shias who are an agent of the Iranian regime and act on their orders not all of them. Recall that it is Khomeini who first was bent on exporting his Shia ideology. He openly threatened to conquer Mecca/Medina for Shias.
And what has "standing up against great satan" has done to Iran? Iran's currency has devaluated many times in the last year, do you have any idea what that means? The population are suffering due to the Ayatollahs. Ahmedinejad lost the election in 2009 in favour of a moderate candidate who wanted to normalise the relations with US and west and had to commit voter fraud + kill thousands to stay in power.
Saudi Arabia is the biggest economy in the middle east and the most stable Muslim country. They absorb more Muslim immigrants than any other country. They're putting money where it is most needed - in development.
Somehow, you seem like a crazy conspiracy theorist to me.
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Today's Bahrain is very different from Iraq back then. It's GDP per capita is $27000, whereas Iraq's was not more than a few thousands. Iraq was never prosperous, it was just militarily powerful.
Do you know how GDP per capita being counted?
IF one people earn $10 Million and 9 people earn $0 then the GDP per capita is $1 Million.
In short GDP per capita shows nothing..And it's the same case as Bahrain, the Al-Khalifa families, cronies and sunni minions get 80% share of the total income from oil resources and they share the 20% to the rest of the people.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Bahrain
http//www.newenglishreview.org/Samir_Yousif/Apartheid_Under_the_Mandate_of_Islam%3A_The_Case_of_Bahrain/
http//kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/is-this-apartheid-in-bahrain/ -
Al Saud dynasty has nothing to fear the shias. There are 3.5 million Shias living in Saudi Arabia. They have more rights than Sunnis have in Iran. They also have representatives in Mecca.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam_in_Saudi_Arabia
And I guess the Jews and Christians also living happily in Saudi Arabia?
In Iran there are many Jews, Christians (Catholics, Orthodox, Mandaeans / Follower of John The Baptist), Sunnis, Zoroastrians etc..
Church In Teheran
http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Catholic_church_in_Tehran.jpg
Synagogue in Teheran
http//www.tlaxcala-int.org/upload/gal_838.jpgI wonder if there's any church / synagogue in KSA..
Salam / PEace
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Salaam/Peace Jafar,
You are well informed on a lot of issues and you seem to be on top of things.
And it's the same case as Bahrain, the Al-Khalifa families, cronies and sunni minions get 80% share of the total income from oil resources and they share the 20% to the rest of the people.
I was watching an interview a couple of weeks ago on LuaLua Tv and according to a gentleman who was at the time one of the representatives on behalf of The Bahraini People, they don't even get 20% of the revenues coming in from the Oil Exports. This is just ONE of the reasons behind the uprising of The Bahraini Citizens.