What is God's role with Born Disabled?

savage_carrot

And now for the first time Dr Fazlur Rahman steps out to reach the world to teach the New Sign and the finest of all disciplines, the Fool Proof Cure. It is the only possibility to lead a normal life without suffering due to medical intervention and their complications until death.

Let us peruse?

i want to study accupressure,teaching by mr. dr fazlur rahman sir please reply me iam waiting for your reply sir --By srikumar

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First what you shall understand is there is no diseases like all that you had mentioned. Make your mind free of all this satanic diagnoses and believe in what God says about your sufferings. Listen to your heart where God speaks against every suffering you experience. Here are the God's words of promise

"Blood pressure must Go!
Sugar must Go!
You must be healthy and active!"

Believe in the same and patiently seek from God for the strengthening of your belief. God will not go back on His Promise. So will you go ahead and get rid of these doctors invented diseases?
Where are these words of promise mentioned by God? Apparently these are in Dr. Bhanu's heart , along with Roxette. Instead on relying on Dr. Bhanu to come to any conclusions based on what is in his heart or otherwise, drfazl helpfully lets him know what God's promises are. Not even maybe this rhyme might help you in your goals to reduce weight, be more active whatever...but that this is what God promises.

I really wanted to read the women and children categories but somehow they are inaccessible. They're probably like his claims on another thread...

The liver is already in exhausted condition due to the non stop elimination of toxins from the intake of medicines in the form of vitamins and drugs for various continuous and intermittent illnesses since birth. The symptoms of such exhaustion of the liver are nausea, vomiting, vertigo, indigestion, muscular weakness, joint pains, heart muscle weakness, nervousness, mental weakness, convulsions, kidney failure etc to say a few. All these symptoms will be more and more aggravated as the unbeatable heavenly defense energy surges ahead in the uterus of the growing fetus. Nausea and vomiting increases as the child grows with its heavenly energy. Either the mother should stop all the medication and shun the doctors and seek forgiveness from God for associating the drugs and the doctors or what follows the nausea and vomiting is what we are going to see in the next post.

Next
How to save the mother and the child in the womb
From even extreme morning sickness
when the doctors advice termination of pregnancy.
So, if a person has never taken any drugs or medicine since birth and they are pregnant...there will be no morning sickness. Then again, if a person has taken drugs or medicine since birth, they can still have no morning sickness. What we know of why morning sickness occurs according to 'modern medicine'? Changing levels of hormones plus other factors etc. What drfazl is saying causes morning sickness during pregnancy? Drugs and medicine since birth having exhausted the liver during pregnancy. Which doesn't explain how some women do not have it even while taking drugs/medicine, why some women have it even if they've never seen a doctor or a medicine bottle in their life. And how morning sickness usually stops most of the times after the 3 month. According to the explanation above, apparently the baby has stopped growing with it's heavenly energy. Morning sickness is a well known symptom of pregnancy that almost everyone knew of even when they had no idea what 'modern medicine' was. How is this explained? Magic? No, really. Magic. Allegedly.

Even if modern medicine is completely wrong about what causes morning sickness...the explanation given here just does not make sense. It does create a dilemma however. If a woman cannot eat a balanced diet e.g. due to her circumstances etc and takes a folic acid pill to help her with the deficit if she's trying to conceive and so on, she's a goner. Not just with her health but also with God apparently. If she doesn't take the pill because she believed drfazl when he told her the above, and her baby is born with a defect...it's somehow still modern medicine's fault just because we live in the 'modern world'. Just how on earth does this even make sense, I ask you. This would mean that no matter what drfazl's advice is, it still wouldn't matter since if it has to happen, it has to happen. It has to happen even more so in the modern world, than at any other time apparently, if we had lived a 1000 years before, then all would be hunky dory for the most part. Modern medicine hadn't been conceived with it's demonic energy back then. Neither did we have many records of birth defects or death causes or much access to reading or writing but that really doesn't count. Thar be dragons and all that.

Arm yourselves with information with evidence and try to make the best informed decision you can at any point. Even if it is reading through drfazl's 'theories' as well as others. Those that aren't literate enough to do so, and instead rely on asking people what's the best thing to do for their health etc...well, I feel for them. It is our responsibility to present others with balanced and evidenced information and hope they can make the right decision for themselves if we ever are in that position. Not to present only one side without never actually having countered the other. Emotional pleas, dramatization, exaggerations do not count, nor does scripture that is used out of context at best in order to scare people into accepting one's claims because anything considered holy has a persuasion power of +10 with many. Especially when there is talk of hellfire. Where have I seen this method before.

Drfazl from whatever I've read on his site and on here is like many faith healers abounding in various different areas. If someone says, it's a placebo effect at work, last ditch attempts so try anything and everything etc...do what you want knowing what you're doing. Not okay with people who use scripture as a weapon, and insist that their information/cure is the ONLY correct information/cure out there knowing what they know about the other sides. I understand that one needs a certain amount of confidence to make people accept their claims and the way most (never met all) faith healers work is making people believe by being 100% confident themselves. This isn't about a method or process, it is about believing a person who claims so and so. No evidence required other than other people saying he has a high success rate dudes! At the end of the day, the placebo effect involves lots of belief but a lie at the core of it.

drfazl

At the end of the day, the placebo effect involves lots of belief but a lie at the core of it.

Belief in the God inspired heartfelt wish is a core lie; absolute belief in God is absurdity to the core. Allah is hearing it. Great!

Poor patients go to the doctors with 100% placebo hype whose abracadabra jargon is nomenclatures and medical diagnoses. The medical scriptures.

drfazl

I understand that one needs a certain amount of confidence to make people accept their claims and the way most (never met all) faith healers work is making people believe by being 100% confident themselves.

No. It needs the manifest Truth to have hope in the least. I am no faith healer. I am teaching others how to have faith in God Alone. To have 100% faith in God and 0% faith in the majority human ways.

drfazl

If someone says, it's a placebo effect at work, last ditch attempts so try anything and everything etc...do what you want knowing what you're doing.

This is exactly the doctors would resort to when all their efforts fail and the patients have been ditched; they would even say to the patients "Don't lose hope; we only prescribe; God cures; so don't blame us for God having ditched you; after all we shall die one day!"

drfazl

Arm yourselves with information with evidence and try to make the best informed decision you can at any point. Even if it is reading through drfazl's 'theories' as well as others. Those that aren't literate enough to do so, and instead rely on asking people what's the best thing to do for their health etc...well, I feel for them.

A lay man is not bereft of cognition.

And theories of assumption is required only for those who mix contrary evidences and cooked up statistics to strengthen a lie. Eg. The practitioners of MM. One shall definitely feel for the gullible public who cannot understand a thing of the magical words of MM but blindly following the paraphernalia of the medical field.

drfazl

It is our responsibility to present others with balanced and evidenced information and hope they can make the right decision for themselves if we ever are in that position. Not to present only one side without never actually having countered the other.

When are the nations and W.H.O. going to incorporate all the medical systems such as ayurvedha, sidha, acupincture, naturopathy, herbal remedy, faith healing and so on - available on earth under one roof, giving equal importance to all of them in every hospital and order all the governments to follow suit. And when the government agencies shall give insurance claims for the people who choose the system of their choice for health care?

drfazl

Emotional pleas, dramatization, exaggerations do not count, nor does scripture that is used out of context at best in order to scare people into accepting one's claims because anything considered holy has a persuasion power of +10 with many. Especially when there is talk of hellfire. Where have I seen this method before.

The MM does exactly the same emotionally scaring the patient first, and then pleading with them to take treatment as early as possible and continue all through you life as though they are interested in their lives - indeed the exaggerated dramatisation.

drfazl

So, if a person has never taken any drugs or medicine since birth and they are pregnant...there will be no morning sickness.

There may or may not be. But definitely there is no need to think even of MM.

savage_carrot

Belief in the God inspired heartfelt wish is a core lie; absolute belief in God is absurdity to the core. Allah is hearing it. Great!

That's what I'm going to do next. Really. Instead of trying to reason and explain in my posts, I'm going to start posting twisted little nuggets which have nothing to do with what is said, but everything to do with trying to make the other out to be a 'disbelieving atheist'.

Once again and for the record. There is a difference between belief in God and what you're saying. If that is ALL you were saying NO ONE who claims to believe would disagree.

I agree Allah is hearing. Repent.

No. It needs the manifest Truth to have hope in the least. I am no faith healer. I am teaching others how to have faith in God Alone. To have 100% faith in God and 0% faith in the majority human ways.

You can't teach them to have faith. God does that. We can show them the many different ways there are to God. This isn't about FAITH, it's about YOU. Why do you stubbornly refuse to admit that your method involves a great deal of faith, belief and trust in YOU knowing what God says...when anyone can read the responses you gave to others on your website like some kind of mufti knowing the heart of God. Were you telling the woman to pray for herself without involving yourself? No. Some in your defense would leap up and say, well other people pray for others as well. I need not remind anyone that it would have zero effect if God does not intend to heal the person. If that is the case, then instead of calling it a foolproof cure, for God's sake and your own sake...call it for what it is. "It may work or it may not like other things you can try, only God knows." Few would have issues with that.

Obviously you won't say that, as that opens up other methods to be just as effective depending on various factors. This is wrong.

This is exactly the doctors would resort to when all their efforts fail and the patients have been ditched; they would even say to the patients "Don't lose hope; we only prescribe; God cures; so don't blame us for God having ditched you; after all we shall die one day!"

What do you resort to when your 'patients' die? The time was nigh? Instead of piecemeal answering choice quotes where you can once again ignore the majority of what is said...perhaps you should take another approach. That of actually understanding what the picture is with the people who disagree with what you say rather than calling them people of the lie as in your first response to me.

A lay man is not bereft of cognition.

And theories of assumption is required only for those who mix contrary evidences and cooked up statistics to strengthen a lie. Eg. The practitioners of MM. One shall definitely feel for the gullible public who cannot understand a thing of the magical words of MM but blindly following the paraphernalia of the medical field.
and whenever I preview, another post. Fine, let's do this. One can definitely feel for the gullible in your case as well. The ones who end up believing that God must work through drfazl to the exclusion of every other method as he knows what we must do to save ourselves. You don't really need a website like you have. Just a page which says Leave everything to God. Pray to him yourselves and you will be saved. Do not use any other method, stop do not pass at Go. Or you will not pass, ever, it is known in the scripture." End of. An img of Gandalf would be fitting right below the above, preferably in the middle of the page.

This isn't a radical view drfazl? You asking everyone to ditch medical science? Why only doctors? It is hypocritical to only keep it there. Why not airplanes? God never mentions those only ships. Hence that is it. Flying in them is haram and we deserve our fitting end if there is an accident because we were prideful enough to believe we knew better. Crazy.

When are the nations and W.H.O. going to incorporate all the medical systems such as ayurvedha, sidha, acupincture, naturopathy, herbal remedy, faith healing and so on - available on earth under one roof, giving equal importance to all of them in every hospital and order all the governments to follow suit. And when the government agencies shall give insurance claims for the people who choose the system of their choice for health care?
Why should that be a grievance when you don't believe any method other than prayer works anyways? What is going on here? Is this really a grievance of yours after what you've said yourself?

The MM does exactly the same emotionally scaring the patient first, and then pleading with them to take treatment as early as possible and continue all through you life as though they are interested in their lives - indeed the exaggerated dramatisation.
So, you're saying you're just like what you think they do. Good to know. Fight fire with fire and all that eh.

There may or may not be. But definitely there is no need to think even of MM.
Why? When have you actually proved them wrong with your evidence other than Allah will save us?

drfazl

What we know of why morning sickness occurs according to 'modern medicine'? Changing levels of hormones plus other factors etc.

Then why can' they cure it. Why is a simple morning sickness had been made to complicate to a grave life threatening situation to both the mother and the child?

Why should we believe now their magical terrorising words such as hormonal imbalance, and then the other factors as if they know all the factors while intact they know nothing?

drfazl

Even if modern medicine is completely wrong about what causes morning sickness...the explanation given here just does not make sense. It does create a dilemma however.

What a balanced view!

savage_carrot

Then why can' they cure it. Why is a simple morning sickness had been made to complicate to a grave life threatening situation to both the mother and the child?

Why should we believe now their magical terrorising words such as hormonal imbalance, and then the other factors as if they know all the factors while intact they know nothing?

So the same hormones that are needed for the growing fetus should be forcibly removed somehow because morning sickness is unnatural and must go? Where and what is your evidence for this? Are you saying all mothers have a grave life threatening illness which is called morning sickness and all the doctors advise them to abort to save their lives? What on earth are you talking about? Allow me to help you with your next topic menopause. That too is one's liver failing? Why not make it pancrea's just for variety? What about thyroid issues? Must be the lungs.

If no one had ever been cured by a process of trying to identify the cause and how to best deal with it, you may have had a point and everyone could cavort around doing absolutely nothing because God never gave us the means to understand the world and how it works even to a certain degree. Unfortunately for you, cures DO exist based on processes of identification and their best solutions which may change with what we know over time. Everyone who believes agrees all this involves God. No one is claiming doctors are god or that trying to use methods other than prayer are evil except YOU.

What a balanced view!

Drfazl talks about balance? Bring out the cameras, this is breaking news! Perhaps, you're not familiar with reasoning, no matter. We will continue regardless, it's a thankless job.

drfazl

That's what I'm going to do next. Really. Instead of trying to reason and explain in my posts, I'm going to start posting twisted little nuggets which have nothing to do with what is said, but everything to do with trying to make the other out to be a 'disbelieving atheist'.

Once again and for the record. There is a difference between belief in God and what you're saying. If that is ALL you were saying NO ONE who claims to believe would disagree.

I agree Allah is hearing. Repent.

It is not that what you are going to do next. You have been doing all the while the same.

Kindly give the difference between what I am saying and what belief in God is; and how and where I am differing.

Allah is Intent in hearing.

drfazl

You can't teach them to have faith. God does that. We can show them the many different ways there are to God. This isn't about FAITH, it's about YOU. Why do you stubbornly refuse to admit that your method involves a great deal of faith, belief and trust in YOU

You cannot teach? Read 1094. Your parents taught you how to pray God. And you teach your kids to how to pray God. Is not it? And many different ways to God? Through temples and synagogues and churches? Or God's way is the one and only way? And can you explain the one way to God? When did I say believe in Me? Or are you lying? Show me the line where I had asked people to turn to me and not to God?

God is Listening.

drfazl

I need not remind anyone that it would have zero effect if God does not intend to heal the person. If that is the case, then instead of calling it a foolproof cure, for God's sake and your own sake...call it for what it is. "It may work or it may not like other things you can try, only God knows." Few would have issues with that.

If you had not forgotten this Truth, you would not associate man mad medical assumptive knowledge to God's fool proof Almighty Power. If you had read all my posts which I am sure you had not, you would have understood what 'fool proof cure' means. Please have some patience to read before writing.

Please go.

drfazl

What do you resort to when your 'patients' die?

The same thing what the MM would do when their patients die. Before death they would say pray to God. But in my case they are already in the hands of God. They are not in my hands. Read fool proof cure and. Take time.

God is with the Patient. This is a basic teaching.

Man_of_Faith

Peace,

Teach Faith is not possible, but you can teach methods and ways of thinking which may lead to God's Nearness and Guidance. You can teach someone to be a muslim, but the Faith part is between God and the individual.

God bless you

drfazl

This isn't a radical view drfazl? You asking everyone to ditch medical science? Why only doctors?

No. Very practical view. Do not rely on doctors who would finally say, "Pray to God!" At that point of time God might not forgive us. S turn to Him from the start. This is faithful view. 418; 4085.

Care to read Quran? God sees what is in your heart and what you speak openly.

It is hypocritical to only keep it there. Why not airplanes? God never mentions those only ships. Hence that is it. Flying in them is haram and we deserve our fitting end if there is an accident because we were prideful enough to believe we knew better. Crazy.

People with accidents die at the "emergency accident care" of MM with brain death. And organs are stolen or traded. So what is the big deal?

Jango

You cannot teach? Read 1094. Your parents taught you how to pray God. And you teach your kids to how to pray God. Is not it? And many different ways to God? Through temples and synagogues and churches? Or God's way is the one and only way? And can you explain the one way to God? When did I say believe in Me? Or are you lying? Show me the line where I had asked people to turn to me and not to God?

God is Listening.

Excellent. God Bless You. You Grow Strong and Strong since You are Guided by Almighty

Jango

No. Very practical view. Do not rely on doctors who would finally say, "Pray to God!" At that point of time God might not forgive us. S turn to Him from the start. This is faithful view. 418; 4085.

Care to read Quran? God sees what is in your heart and what you speak openly.

People with accidents die at the "emergency accident care" of MM with brain death. And organs are stolen or traded. So what is the big deal?

Great... No one Question Allah's Words... Excellent